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Topic: Beware of PayPal and other reversible transfer services - page 29. (Read 924961 times)

legendary
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Well hello there!
Quick question.  I have a buyer interested in purchasing some BTC for paypal.  He is willing to do the whole ID thing but just wondering...if he where to enter in the comments section of his paypal payment that the transaction is irreversible would this protect me against a potential chargeback down the road?
hero member
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
In 6 years never had a bad experience. From my point of view they are totaly trustable.

We aren't telling that paypal isn't trustable. We told that, person who send you paypal money can be taken back by them easily. So you will loose both BTC/cryptos and money. Anyway if you want to sell, try to withdraw money into bank account as fast as possible, best to withdraw instantly after you get. But there is a likely chance to lose the same amount of money you got from the person, if he reports. Sad
Kindly,
     MZ
legendary
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In 6 years never had a bad experience. From my point of view they are totaly trustable.
member
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Software Engineering is not an easy Job.
Ahhh. Paypal. My good pals. Their support is from every country with GDP of under 200$ per capita.
I dont know why anyone would use those buttholes. Better just lose my money on the street. At least someone will find it and there will be balance in the universe.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 509
I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
Is OKPay trustable? I am going to do some exchanges with it, so it would be very helpful if you tell me your suggestions.
Kindly,
      MZ
newbie
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Thank you for making us aware about banking system and clear warning sticky about paypal! I have read other threads, where people do not trust paypal system.
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Well hello there!
Yes, please be very careful of Paypal and a site called sellusbitcoin.com out of the UK.  They reversed a transaction totaling $1107 a few days after the bitcoin had been transferred then claimed it was paypal that reversed it because they suspected me of fraud. I've been with paypal over 10 years with an account in good standing. I would warn anyone not to deal with this company. They also go by Bitcoin Stockers Ltd.   Angry
Thanks for the heads up.  Sorry you ended up having to learn the lesson the hard way.
member
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I have a very bad experience with PAYZA for that matters.
I have exchanged my PM with a payza user from pakistan whom i knew since last 1 year on Facebook but unfortunately he sent me payza
and in few days he reversed all transactions once he got PM from me and PAYZA dont bother to reply me and reverse transactions
in the favor of that person.So my take away from this bitter experience is that please do not exchange payza or paypal with other e currency
sr. member
Activity: 812
Merit: 250
If you tell your 'customer' to send the money as gift with the text 'Happy Birthday' or something like that, then they'll have a really hard time charging back the money.
Wrong. If the 'customer' want charge the money back, he just use another ip and claim a unauthorizated case. How many time more?

You can send how you want, write what you want, there is NO WAY to avoid charge back, if the 'customer' really want.

Is this so hard to get, after 14 pages repeat again and again?
legendary
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Merit: 1032
RIP Mommy
If you tell your 'customer' to send the money as gift with the text 'Happy Birthday' or something like that, then they'll have a really hard time charging back the money.

It's not really hard at all to pretend you were "hacked".
newbie
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Merit: 0
I just got scammed out of $3000
I thought i was smart and pretty carefull..and never once did i think that you could
open a bank account solely with a photocopy of and ID.

Lesson learned.
It still hurts though.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammed-just-been-done-for-3000-682430
newbie
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If you tell your 'customer' to send the money as gift with the text 'Happy Birthday' or something like that, then they'll have a really hard time charging back the money.
member
Activity: 148
Merit: 10
I freaking hate PayPal!  Angry
legendary
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Merit: 1000
In many many cases there are Paypal scum artist so beware not paypal or credit card.
I have lost much money with paypal as their system is buyer oriented.
Lately only they have add a record for the frequent fradulent buyers that works
I had an ebay case with paypal that I lost the case but they did not refund the buyer....
first good thing in 10 years on  ebay
legendary
Activity: 3038
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RIP Mommy
https://www.moneypak.com/refundrequest.aspx

Sometimes MoneyPak will also believe a scammer's bullshit, that their MP was "stolen".
hero member
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thanx for sharing actually this happened with me . Once I received some amount of money and that was reversed in not more than 3 days. When I contacted PayPal they told me this was not authorized transaction and I lost my money.

How can moneypak be reversible if you have to pay for it with cash on the spot? LBC also flagged this payment method as totally not secure, but I don't fully understand why. I've bought moneypaks several time and gave it to someone to load it into their paypal.

boopy never said anything about MoneyPak. If seller receives direct MoneyPak that is not reversible. However if buyer use PayPal with MoneyPak funds that is reversible unless it's stated for intangible goods. Then it's not reversible. However you don't know if they pay with credit card or MoneyPak. Credit card is reversible.
legendary
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thanx for sharing actually this happened with me . Once I received some amount of money and that was reversed in not more than 3 days. When I contacted PayPal they told me this was not authorized transaction and I lost my money.

How can moneypak be reversible if you have to pay for it with cash on the spot? LBC also flagged this payment method as totally not secure, but I don't fully understand why. I've bought moneypaks several time and gave it to someone to load it into their paypal.
legendary
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Merit: 1005
thanx for sharing actually this happened with me . Once I received some amount of money and that was reversed in not more than 3 days. When I contacted PayPal they told me this was not authorized transaction and I lost my money.
sr. member
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I am trying to find a reputable exchange that will payout paypal, somewhere in the minimal range of 50-100 USD. Anyone know of any?
No site currently offering this service you can do exchange with any reputable member in currency exchange section
full member
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Merit: 102
I am trying to find a reputable exchange that will payout paypal, somewhere in the minimal range of 50-100 USD. Anyone know of any?
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