Topic: BFL 6 May 2013 ASIC Update (Read 23357 times)

That youtube video, the fake one that I thought was real when I first started to watch it, what was that guy really doing? Was just just burning a chip with a heat lamp? That of course was just an IC chip or something I think already soldered on the board. Was he just burning it to make a video for people to believe?

That youtube video, the fake one that I thought was real when I first started to watch it, what was that guy really doing? Was just just burning a chip with a heat lamp? That of course was just an IC chip or something I think already soldered on the board. Was he just burning it to make a video for people to believe?

Oh man... you are such a WIZARD and obviously WAY smarter than about 99% of the people... IN THE WORLD. 

now that I am done with the sarcasm, I'd say "No shit Sherlock".  I am someone with a Sept 1st order.. and I'll still be keeping my order.  Anyone who ordered that early took a gamble.  If people are so stupid that they need someone like YOU to tell them that then this community is full of idiots.  Unless a company has stock in hand, and is known to be shipping the product with no issues, and you ORDER from said company, you are taking a gamble.  People who ordered batch 1 of Avalon, were taking just as big of a gamble.  You choose your horse, then you ride it out.  Avalon won.. and those people picked the right horse, but people shouldn't be such pompous jerks to say "BFL is a scam.. get a refund!".  You don't have to say anything a DOZEN times.. that's 11 too many.  Just say what you want once, then let it play out.  The second that BFL's shops close down, don't return money, and all the people responsible move to South America... you can say "I told you so."  You have to be a supertroll to say "I told you so" to something that hasn't happened yet.

What happens if BFL ships (In greater quantity) and people receive their devices and gain any kind of profit?  I assume people like you will just create some other reason why they were still right... right?  If we are taking bets on the future, I'd bet you won't say a word about being wrong if it ends up that BFL actually becomes some sort of success. 

..but then again.. keep talking people out of their preorders.  Hopefully that means I'll skip ahead of line by a little bit.  If they don't ship.. oh well.  It would suck, but people shouldn't be gambling with money they can't afford to lose.

I know it's been awhile since the last update, but all that's going to change unless I'm overruled. From here on out, once a week I will announce the reason (hopefully not plural) why we are delaying.

Given that we've use up most of the good reasons, we ask of our investors to submit to our EP (excuse department) viable reason we could use. Those offering up suggestions we use will receive a 10% voucher, good towards all Pinocchio Boxes.

One voucher per person, applied to only units recently increased in price.

For a product that has been in the "Final Development Stage" for 3, now 4 months...they sure can't be any more specific than updating everyone saying "nothing is really nailed down and we don't have any proof of a prototype because if we did we would have brought it to CES."

BFL is full of shit.

Why not announce the timeline of delays by the very excuse themselves? Oh wait maybe that would give too much information about the fact that they were lying for months on end about where they actually were in the development process......."Final Development Stage". Looks like they are relying on someone else's word on the timelines and not on anything they actually know.

Without a prototype what the hell do they expect to accomplish by mass producing chips that could be flawed all while giving an unrealistic timeline of shipping preorders?

LOL just LAWL!

Why quote what was posted in February by Josh and then try to pass it off as more recent? 

Why quote what was posted in February by Josh and then try to pass it off as more recent? 

Why quote what was posted in February by Josh and then try to pass it off as more recent? 

You can always count on their forum sticky posts for the latest up-to-date info:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/1084-if-i-order-now-when-will-i-get-my-order.html

Because with BFL you never know where the news will be.

The currently estimated shipping time frame if you were to order today is the end of April or Beginning of May.

Because with BFL you never know where the news will be.
It may be in the 'BFL ASIC Status' thread, but it may equally well be in some new blog or just in a random old or new thread.

Despite the noise it's still far easier and more convenient to get the info from bitcointalk than to navigate the BFL labyrinth in search of information.

Why do you look here for news rather than on BFL's forums or the BFL twitter?  Any news is posted there first.

bitcointalk.org would also be my first stop for credible information about BFL.  Compared to the to other outlets you enumerated at least.  So it's hard to hold it against ~poobah for dropping by

We're just trying to lend a brother a hand here Poob.  Some have been at it for almost a year now and have probably saved many thankful souls who've been happily and profitably hashing away rather than sitting around with their thumbs up their asses waiting for vaporware as the rest of the economy moves forward.

Why do you look here for news rather than on BFL's forums or the BFL twitter?  Any news is posted there first.

I have an early July order with BFL, and look in to see if there is any new news here, and by and large I have to wade through pages and pages of utter nonsense to find 1 or 2 meaningful messages. It is ridiculous.

Here is the currently estimated timeline, and while this is subject to change of course, it's pretty solid at this time. Completed items are crossed off:

    Week of January 13th ||| MONTH OF OCT / NOV / DEC / JAN / FEB / MAR / APR / MAY ||||
        Travel to packaging facility for final prep and walkthrough - Complete
        Confirm travel plans and trip details with lead ASIC engineer for trip to fab - Complete
    Week of January 20th
        Final assembly facility prep - In progress
    Week of January 26th
        Leave for fab/bumping facility at the end of the week
        KC facility starts assembly process of units to drop PCB into Units being prepped!
    Week of February 3rd
        Final chips roll off the line
        Arrive at Bumping facility
        Chips Bumped
        Arrive California for Packaging (May spill into following week)
        Chips packaged
    Week of February 10th
        Packaged chips sent to assembly house
        Assembled PCB is set for final testing and MCU programming
        Notify users to start sending their FPGA units or BTC for trade in participants
        Bulk assembled PCBs arrive in KC, we start dropping PCBs into waiting units
        Boxing/labeling for shipment
        We implement the 1/3 shipping plan en mass
            1/3 of our assembled units will go to new orders in FIFO
            1/3 of our assembled units will go to upgrade orders
            1/3 will be randomly selected from both groups
        We descend upon the Post Office like horde of angry locust. DHL, UPS and FedEx send trucks.