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April 17, 2015, 02:28:00 AM
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Hello. I'm writing to let you know that due to a subpoena that I received related to a case against BFL, I was forced to release some of your PMs.

In particular, I released all PMs that you sent to or received from the following people, possibly even if you deleted the PM:

Inaba
BFL-Engineer
BFL_Josh
SLok
BFL_Sonny
BFL AM Dave
bcp19
nibbknot

Who was nibbknot then?

Interesting.
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April 17, 2015, 02:27:28 AM
#76
http://ia601803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.19.pdf

Mt Gox needs to use a third party for AML/KYC rather than do it themselves. There is too much incentive for them to simply claim documents are fake and block account holders because there is no transparency at all .

Its like putting the banks in charge of their own regulations through the SEC which caused the GFC !

MtGox doesn't need to do anything because it's regulated by it's customers (i.e. the free market). Just watch how fast they'll fall if they are stupid enough to start operating in bad faith.

They already are operating in bad faith.  They are not informing their customers that they do not have the fiat funds to cover withdrawals over a few thousand dollars.  There are a number of us at the moment with $10,000+ withdrawals being held indefinitely without any explanation, but if we make smaller withdrawals those go through. In my case, I've had zero problems with withdrawals in the past and I have been a verified member for quite some time.  Haven't changed any account information, etc...

For some reason, something about a proverbial goose comes to mind. For those who love cooked goose...

Thanks for the post MTGox_Dylan.  I think most everyone was already aware of these FAQ points, though.  That has never really been the issue, so I'm not sure what is hoped to have been accomplished by making this post, other than as a distracting measure (This would have been perhaps more effective: NSFW).

The real problem here is, as has already been at least partially mentioned:

1. The lack of transparency in the process.
2. The lack of communication.
3. The lies and false promises made by MTGox Support Staff with regards to AML/KYC.
4. Delay after delay, ostensibly under the guise of AML.
5. The just plain ludicrous decisions (Goat as an example).  Perhaps transparency would clear these up.
6. The fact that most decisions made by MTGox seem completely arbitrary, and nothing... NOTHING pisses off customers more than arbitrary decision making.  When your actions are not predictable in a given situation, you are wrong.  Period.


So while this post is nice and all, I'm not sure what you're hoping to accomplish other than to distract from the real issues surrounding MTGox.  My situation, that has been on going since April, is still unresolved.  I am not the only one in this situation and there are plenty of others in similar situations.  

Again, this does not seem to be an AML issue, it seems to be an insolvency issue.  MTGox is unable to fund even moderate sized fiat conversions, which leads many of us to believe you guys are basically bankrupt and a disaster waiting to happen.  The fact that no one has publicly denied this (not that we'd believe you at this point anyway, given MTGox track record of lies and falsehoods) certainly does not bolster confidence in MTGox at all.

Maybe this is the wrong thread to bring any of this up, but I don't want people to be distracted by this kind of thread from the real issue of MTGox being unable to meet their obligations to even moderate sized customers, especially when you are trying to gain new customers who will end up completely screwed when the Gox house of cards comes crashing down.  
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April 17, 2015, 02:10:13 AM
#75
http://ia601803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.19.pdf

Interesting. A.D. Douma, A 1% percent owner in Rotterdam, The Netherlands. I'd almost say it's safe to assume that this is SLok.

It's almost safe to assume your post is useless. Do you know who SLok is?

I do! He's BFL's SLokPUppet.  Grin

FWIW, I just got back from vacation in South America and am surprised to see that the mods locked the BFL thread in hardware. I'm just now catching up on the latest.
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April 17, 2015, 01:58:46 AM
#74
Interesting. A.D. Douma, A 1% percent owner in Rotterdam, The Netherlands. I'd almost say it's safe to assume that this is SLok.

It's almost safe to assume your post is useless. Do you know who SLok is?
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April 17, 2015, 01:40:58 AM
#73


http://ia801803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.21.pdf

From the same source further down BFL declares they acquired Josh's EMC on October 26, 2012.

Interesting. A.D. Douma, A 1% percent owner in Rotterdam, The Netherlands. I'd almost say it's safe to assume that this is SLok.
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April 17, 2015, 01:32:13 AM
#72
http://s29.postimg.org/g8ban6f6f/1rs.jpg

http://ia801803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.21.pdf

So, Bruno was correct about the 18UxwNVLPo7vyRkCgs5wusUfhhbMYhApAu bitcoin wallet address belonging to BFL and used to pay DeathandTaxes' 116 BTC because of Josh's lost gamble and the 10 BTC to him to keep his mouth shut.

If BFL can't precisely determined how many bitcoins it mined, how were they able to report to the IRS accurate figures.

Mined Bitcoins: Not exactly sure.
Office supplies: Between $500 and $750.
Utilities: More than $57,000.
Misc Nonemployee Compensation paid out: $8,228.98.
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April 17, 2015, 01:17:08 AM
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http://s10.postimg.org/57t8okpjd/1lp.jpg

http://ia801803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.21.pdf

From the same source further down BFL declares they acquired Josh's EMC on October 26, 2012.
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April 17, 2015, 12:23:19 AM
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Dude, you caused me to choke on my Scarabaeidae au Gratin.
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April 16, 2015, 11:57:54 PM
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The last time Josh Zerlan moved a substantial amount of bitcoins from his wallet was on October 8, 2014, shortly after giving his deposition related to the FTC case against BFL on September 25, 2014: http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.42.19.pdf. The amount he moved then was 1159.93863299 BTC and are now at 159NUpEEg7BkfrEwGRtwDpShCqh8u72qio.

Josh even moved the 0.00001 BTC transferred to him perhaps by some tracking entity on September 7, 2014, that being the 1LaxoTrQy51LnB289VmoSAgN6J6UrJbfL9 bitcoin wallet address as witnessed in the txid 47e8ab6092b0ce2bcbfa73ec7b36125039c6a8b4869ee709f5ddf4f0ea140aa9.
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April 16, 2015, 08:10:14 PM
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http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.292.0.pdf

REPLY SUGGESTIONS to motion re [274] MOTION to amend/correct FTC motion to amend complaint filed by Leah Frazier on behalf of Plaintiff Federal Trade Commission. (Related document(s)[274]) (Frazier, Leah)
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April 16, 2015, 07:31:57 PM
#66
I will pay them on the side to keep doing exactly what they are doing! LMAO!

"Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake."  -- Napoleon Bonaparte
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April 16, 2015, 05:04:50 PM
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LOL, what a coincidence.

Time to phone it in to the IRS/FBI?

Oh, wait, isn't there already a case open by ______ M. ___________?

 Wink

Follow the second link to see that all the bitcoins stemmed from EclipseMC's 1Baf75Ferj6A7AoN565gCQj9kGWbDMHfN9 mined the middle of 2013.
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April 16, 2015, 05:03:31 PM
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Edited for brevity, originals available upon request.
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April 16, 2015, 05:01:37 PM
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LOL, what a coincidence.

Time to phone it in to the IRS/FBI?

Oh, wait, isn't there already a case open by ______ M. ___________?

 Wink
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April 16, 2015, 04:58:24 PM
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291 is a riot. BFL's attorneys are now hoping that they're entitled to payment somehow but the FTC shot that shit down. ROFL.  Cheesy
Actually, if you read 291, VERY CAREFULLY you can actually see that BFL's legal team made tons of really obvious mistakes.

In all honesty, I think BFL is mandating the course of actions and their legal team probably have to comply. I don't honestly believe their legal team could make this many mistakes (as cited by the FTC). I know sometimes attorneys wish to "appease" their clients as long as they are getting paid....but 291 shows just how many obvious mistakes are being made and how the fight is seemingly nonsense on one front.

The attorneys used the improper naming scheme to sue a federal entity. A pretty darn obvious mistake if you are an attorney.

Who the fook is in charge over there?! I will pay them on the side to keep doing exactly what they are doing! LMAO!
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April 16, 2015, 01:10:11 PM
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They are wrong.  That's why I find it so funny.

Wrong about what, pal? Can't answer the question?
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April 16, 2015, 01:06:01 PM
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291 is a riot. BFL's attorneys are now hoping that they're entitled to payment somehow but the FTC shot that shit down. ROFL.  Cheesy
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April 16, 2015, 12:50:31 PM
#58
They are wrong.  That's why I find it so funny.

How can you be certain ?

I find stuff like this kinda funny, personally.

I must admit I personally find that funnier too...  Grin
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