Solitude is a bit strident.
Don't know if you intended it or not, but this gets the Oxymoron of Day Award.NOTE: NO! I am not calling k9quaint a moron! If unsure, look up the word. Thank you.
Topic: BFL refund through Paypal claim - page 4. (Read 15293 times)
NOTE: NO! I am not calling k9quaint a moron! If unsure, look up the word. Thank you.
Welcome to Full Production, where refunds are no longer honored.
I can't believe I have to defend myself against being a BFL shill. A cursory review of the characterizations I've made of BFL would strongly suggest to anyone with an iota of the sense you have that, if I had to bet on BFL's raison d'etre I'd bet 'long con' at this point in time.I know they've (quite possibly illegally) stopped refunds. I don't know, but indications are, they've stopped shipping again; the theory someone had that they had a small number of chips, used most in Jallies, and a few in some tickler Big Boxes looks pretty plausible right now.\
My only point is this guy seemed to indicate that he represented to the PayPal agent that BFL had shipped nothing. And that's not true. And if and when PayPal calls BFL, and BFL can demonstrate that's not true, that does nothing to help the refund cause.
Solitude is a bit strident. I wouldn't pay too much attention. He is an equal opportunity hater.
Welcome to Full Production, where refunds are no longer honored.
I can't believe I have to defend myself against being a BFL shill. A cursory review of the characterizations I've made of BFL would strongly suggest to anyone with an iota of the sense you have that, if I had to bet on BFL's raison d'etre I'd bet 'long con' at this point in time.I know they've (quite possibly illegally) stopped refunds. I don't know, but indications are, they've stopped shipping again; the theory someone had that they had a small number of chips, used most in Jallies, and a few in some tickler Big Boxes looks pretty plausible right now.\
My only point is this guy seemed to indicate that he represented to the PayPal agent that BFL had shipped nothing. And that's not true. And if and when PayPal calls BFL, and BFL can demonstrate that's not true, that does nothing to help the refund cause.
I just got off the phone with "Robert" from PayPal and he said they would be more than willing to refund me after a dispute was opened because the BFL cronies haven't shipped a single thing and are denying refunds.
???But the highlighted part is not true???BFL shill pls go
To say BFL has not shipped a single thing is a prima facie misrepresentation of the truth. You have plenty of cause to come down on BFL without making shit up.
They haven't shipped a single in a month, except to shills like ARS Technica and other "I got my Single today!" shills
They haven't provided an explanation as to why they haven't shipped.
What pisses me off the most is they claim to still be "Shipping June 23rd Singles" which they've been claiming for a month now. There's under 100 orders for June 23rd, so how many Singles do you think they've shipped?
Who in their right mind would defend this company after they started denying refunds to customers, with some phoney explanation?
A shill would
Welcome to Full Production, where refunds are no longer honored.
I just got off the phone with "Robert" from PayPal and he said they would be more than willing to refund me after a dispute was opened because the BFL cronies haven't shipped a single thing and are denying refunds.
???But the highlighted part is not true???BFL shill pls go
To say BFL has not shipped a single thing is a prima facie misrepresentation of the truth. You have plenty of cause to come down on BFL without making shit up.
They haven't shipped a single in a month, except to shills like ARS Technica and other "I got my Single today!" shills
They haven't provided an explanation as to why they haven't shipped.
What pisses me off the most is they claim to still be "Shipping June 23rd Singles" which they've been claiming for a month now. There's under 100 orders for June 23rd, so how many Singles do you think they've shipped?
Who in their right mind would defend this company after they started denying refunds to customers, with some phoney explanation?
A shill would
If you represented to PayPal that they haven't shipped anything, then I take to exception to that. On the basis of the apparent violations of US FTC regulations, the constant misrepresentation of delivery schedules and intentions, and so on: go for their balls.
Just don't make shit up, and certainly don't tell lies to PayPal. They're your advocate in this, and, just as someone should never lie to their lawyer, they should not lie to their advocates.
I just got off the phone with "Robert" from PayPal and he said they would be more than willing to refund me after a dispute was opened because the BFL cronies haven't shipped a single thing and are denying refunds.
???But the highlighted part is not true???BFL shill pls go
To say BFL has not shipped a single thing is a prima facie misrepresentation of the truth. You have plenty of cause to come down on BFL without making shit up.
They haven't shipped a single in a month, except to shills like ARS Technica and other "I got my Single today!" shills
They haven't provided an explanation as to why they haven't shipped.
What pisses me off the most is they claim to still be "Shipping June 23rd Singles" which they've been claiming for a month now. There's under 100 orders for June 23rd, so how many Singles do you think they've shipped?
Who in their right mind would defend this company after they started denying refunds to customers, with some phoney explanation?
A shill would
to be fair, bfl is shipping some products.
I just got off the phone with "Robert" from PayPal and he said they would be more than willing to refund me after a dispute was opened because the BFL cronies haven't shipped a single thing and are denying refunds.
???But the highlighted part is not true???BFL shill pls go
To say BFL has not shipped a single thing is a prima facie misrepresentation of the truth. You have plenty of cause to come down on BFL without making shit up.
I just got off the phone with "Robert" from PayPal and he said they would be more than willing to refund me after a dispute was opened because the BFL cronies haven't shipped a single thing and are denying refunds.
???But the highlighted part is not true???BFL shill pls go
I just got off the phone with "Robert" from PayPal and he said they would be more than willing to refund me after a dispute was opened because the BFL cronies haven't shipped a single thing and are denying refunds.
???But the highlighted part is not true???
I just got off the phone with "Robert" from PayPal and he said they would be more than willing to refund me after a dispute was opened because the BFL cronies haven't shipped a single thing and are denying refunds.
How many of you have been successful in getting a refund through paypal, after BFL illegally denied your refund?
Within 45 days paypal policy, I have tried to get outta there before June. The BFL is really, really deep damned.
Were you able to get a refund?
How many of you have been successful in getting a refund through paypal, after BFL illegally denied your refund?
Within 45 days paypal policy, I have tried to get outta there before June. The BFL is really, really deep damned.
This describes the BFL hype very appropriately:
http://blog.gogrid.com/2012/11/28/riding-the-gartner-hype-cycle-roller-coaster-hang-on-to-your-magic-quadrants/
Of course, when graphed, BFL's expectations and performance end with a tail spin and subsequent pitch fork shapes from angry crowds?
http://blog.gogrid.com/2012/11/28/riding-the-gartner-hype-cycle-roller-coaster-hang-on-to-your-magic-quadrants/
Of course, when graphed, BFL's expectations and performance end with a tail spin and subsequent pitch fork shapes from angry crowds?
So, Big Jody over at BFL posted her daily shipping blog, and guess what
theyare shipping June 23rd Singles still aren't shipping Singles at all, same as last week, and the week before it.
So I guess the prophets of doom were right, this company really is swindling us.
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So I guess the prophets of doom were right, this company really is swindling us.
Courtesy of:
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/3144-ls-s-mr-status-speculation-11.html#post46100
Trouble in paradise? There might possibly be a delay due to that darn x-link.
X-Link: Apparently a BFL proprietary design for linking boards together.
There hasn't been a "I got my mini-rig" post in a while.
BFL halted Jalapeno shipments until the other product lines catch up.
It is July 8th.
Courtesy of:
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/3144-ls-s-mr-status-speculation-11.html#post46100
Trouble in paradise? There might possibly be a delay due to that darn x-link.
X-Link: Apparently a BFL proprietary design for linking boards together.
There is a weak link somewhere in the chain of a successful Ebay (p)re-sale.
The question(s) of the day is:
Are you the weakest link because you can't deliver to your customer on time? Or is it BFL because they can't seemingly deliver "to you" on time?
The question(s) of the day is:
Are you the weakest link because you can't deliver to your customer on time? Or is it BFL because they can't seemingly deliver "to you" on time?
Are you guys selling your preorders on ebay or just filing a claim with Paypal/FTC?
If I sell my pre-order on ebay and am paid through paypal, and these clowns never end up shipping, or ship a year from now, what's stopping the buyer from initiating a chargeback?
Ebay and Paypal is not designed (policy wise) for BFL pre-orders...nor their subsequent resale. (In my Opinion)If I sell my pre-order on ebay and am paid through paypal, and these clowns never end up shipping, or ship a year from now, what's stopping the buyer from initiating a chargeback?
If you resell "promises" of delivery based on what BFL has told you, expect your own customer to be just as screwed as you were. You are just becoming a repeater of promises and hence, you will be charged back.
Lets all join a Kumbaya circle and chargeback on each other?
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