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legendary
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July 03, 2013, 04:43:46 PM
#7
All sales are final is in itself illegal. As long as they can't deliver the item on the day you want your refund they have to give you the refund. That is common business pratice and even law in some countries...

That is absolutely correct.

In USA even though you can post "ALL SALES FINAL", it is illegal to enforce that policy in practice.
Moreover,  a retailer must always offer a refund when merchandise is defective, damaged or otherwise not as advertised. The words "sold as is" or "final sale" are meaningless insofar as consumer protection laws always offer some form of redress.

^^This.
sr. member
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Sometimes man, just sometimes.....
July 03, 2013, 04:43:16 PM
#6
All sales are final is in itself illegal. As long as they can't deliver the item on the day you want your refund they have to give you the refund. That is common business pratice and even law in some countries...

Any good lawyer or judge will tell you its all in the wording, and BFL uses it well. And I quote " Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are shipped according to placement in the order queue, and delivery may take 2 months or more after order. All sales are final."

The statement of "2 months or more" makes denying you a refund legal.  The only way it becomes illegal is if they never deliver the product....ever.  If they discontinue the item and say that it will never ship, THEN you are legally owed a refund.  But, when you paid for your item, they essentially told you it would take at least 2 months.  They never promised before a certain time frame.

Some people have been able to successfully get refunds, and that is totally at the companies discretion.  Its no different that buying a product with a warranty, and then that product breaking after that warranty has expired.  They company promised that under normal use, their product will last ATLEAST that long.  Anything beyond that, they do not have to fix/repair, but if they choose to do it then thats their own discretion.  Same also applies to returns and countless other policies in place everyday.
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July 03, 2013, 04:42:46 PM
#5
All sales are final is in itself illegal. As long as they can't deliver the item on the day you want your refund they have to give you the refund. That is common business pratice and even law in some countries...

That is absolutely correct.

In USA even though you can post "ALL SALES FINAL", it is illegal to enforce that policy in practice.
Moreover,  a retailer must always offer a refund when merchandise is defective, damaged or otherwise not as advertised. The words "sold as is" or "final sale" are meaningless insofar as consumer protection laws always offer some form of redress.
full member
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July 03, 2013, 04:33:25 PM
#4
I am working on it and just open disputes on Paypal for all the orders I had with BFL.   Shortly after that I got two Credit Emails fro BFL that I "think" is BFL refunding me...  We will see..

I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad to get away from  this company..   Just VERY shady scummy people if you ask me..  I dont give a shit if they actually do get their back orders cleared by End of Aug(Which I bet 100 BTC they wont but I know Josh would not have the balls to take my bet) I STILL will be happy I will NEVER do business with them.  And will continue to do my best to get others not to place orders with them..

Oh BTW they banned me fro their forums this morning..  What is funny is they redirect me to here..  Bitcoin Talk..  If I was in charge of Bitcoin talk I would sue their ass for doing that..

legendary
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July 03, 2013, 04:33:10 PM
#3
All sales are final is in itself illegal. As long as they can't deliver the item on the day you want your refund they have to give you the refund. That is common business pratice and even law in some countries...
sr. member
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Sometimes man, just sometimes.....
July 03, 2013, 04:30:36 PM
#2
How many of you have been successful in getting a refund through paypal, after BFL illegally denied your refund?

How do you consider it illegal when it states "All Sales Are Final"?
hero member
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July 03, 2013, 04:16:33 PM
#1
How many of you have been successful in getting a refund through paypal, after BFL illegally denied your refund?
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