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Topic: {BFL} WHAT THE!! ButterflyLads WONT deliver the Monarch Till...ONLY GOD KNOWs?:( - page 18. (Read 48002 times)

legendary
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I don't believe in denial.
if BFL not scam, why no official thread in this forum? may be they are afraid..
A scam?!? You're joking, right? You can say a lot of things (both positive and negative) about them, but how do you get to that?!?

I'm looking at my BFL single happily hashing away right now (and If you look around at this forum you'll find a lot of people using their HardWare.

As far as their "official thread", you can find it at the official thread: https://forums.butterflylabs.com
legendary
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I don't believe in denial.
Hey, I'm open to suggestions; if anyone's got a better product from another manufacturer in mind just say so.

But in the mean time this (Monarch) seems to be offering the most GH/$...

All other hardware that seems to get there is also on pre-order. Same difference it seems to me...

Suggestions?
full member
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if BFL not scam, why no official thread in this forum? may be they are afraid..
hero member
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C'mon you guys...

you do understand the difference between pre-order and in-stock, right...?

I ordered the BFL single (from the US) from "in-stock" and had it in less than 2 weeks (in the Netherlands). But yes, that was in-stock...

If you want to have the newest you'll have to go pre-order. Whether that's KnC or BFL or whatever... Bitmain is simply "lagging" in technology (but I do like their "no pre-order philosophy" et cetera, but that's a choice...)

BFL is not making anything "new" by the time it arrives on your door step 3 to 4 months from now that is being generous 300 / 600 Gh/s cards like they are proposing are losers in this market. They are way behind what is cutting edge and they can't catch up at this point particularly with the cooling they are planning. With every "new" design they are falling behind the competition that are moving towards higher density and more exotic cooling and pretty much getting mining equipment out of homes into the "cloud". 11 months of design now for the Monarch and another 3 to 4 months to get it working and shipped is way too SLOW in this game. BFL is the last company anyone should deal with and the point is not PRE-SALES vs IN STOCK. What BFL does is not PRE-SALES it is taking investors money and giving them NO equity in the company. Simply put no one in their right mind should be giving BFL money for anything. BFL is the one that LAGS in technology since when they arrive on market they are pretty much ROI black holes.
legendary
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I don't believe in denial.
C'mon you guys...

you do understand the difference between pre-order and in-stock, right...?

I ordered the BFL single (from the US) from "in-stock" and had it in less than 2 weeks (in the Netherlands). But yes, that was in-stock...

If you want to have the newest you'll have to go pre-order. Whether that's KnC or BFL or whatever... Bitmain is simply "lagging" in technology (but I do like their "no pre-order philosophy" et cetera, but that's a choice...)
legendary
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A year ago around this time I place my first orders with these BFL scammers. My how time flies. \

Today noob no more; how Nice to have my orders shipped soon after I pay. Definitely not BFL.

Hint.... S1

I'm with ya on that dude!!  June,26 2012 I ordered my 30GH'er....got it July,5 2013  Shocked

Ordered 2 180GH Ants Feb,3 2014...got em Feb,15 2014...BOTH IN THE SAME YEAR!!!!!! WTF!!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
sr. member
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A year ago around this time I place my first orders with these BFL scammers. My how time flies. \

Today noob no more; how Nice to have my orders shipped soon after I pay. Definitely not BFL.

Hint.... S1
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Um, didn't you post that they arrived at the testing facility on 27th January under Monarch Update thread? Are you saying that no testing has taken place yet?
Testing facilities can also report failed tests. Maybe thats what happened.
legendary
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latest update from your boy Josh:





but he forgot he had already given the same update months ago:



Um, didn't you post that they arrived at the testing facility on 27th January under Monarch Update thread? Are you saying that no testing has taken place yet?


They are testing their new Google AdWords campaign to ensnare more unsuspecting nooblets.
hero member
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StayFocus and LIVE
latest update from your boy Josh:





but he forgot he had already given the same update months ago:



Um, didn't you post that they arrived at the testing facility on 27th January under Monarch Update thread? Are you saying that no testing has taken place yet?
hero member
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Another lie from dropt!  Who'dathunkit?

BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date.  Be that as it may, if history repeats itself, we'll be right on target and timeframe for the Monarch.  Our second generation FPGA was underpromised and overdelivered as far as performance goes... if history repeats itself, the second generation ASIC will be as well.


Dude BFL is a fucking ripoff any way you want to put it...46 bitcoins for 600GH...what a fucking joke. I just ordered 3TH for 10 bitcoins. Your company sucks, and you should be ashamed to be an American Company...take your garbage to Russia with the rest of the bullshit scammers...BFL FUCKING SUCKS!!

Isn't bitfury Russian? I'm pretty sure most of the companies that have failed to deliver have been American - BFL, HF, VMC, Terrahash, and even Cointerra is late.  All US companies.

Don't forget the bASIC scam.
hero member
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Another lie from dropt!  Who'dathunkit?

BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date.  Be that as it may, if history repeats itself, we'll be right on target and timeframe for the Monarch.  Our second generation FPGA was underpromised and overdelivered as far as performance goes... if history repeats itself, the second generation ASIC will be as well.


Dude BFL is a fucking ripoff any way you want to put it...46 bitcoins for 600GH...what a fucking joke. I just ordered 3TH for 10 bitcoins. Your company sucks, and you should be ashamed to be an American Company...take your garbage to Russia with the rest of the bullshit scammers...BFL FUCKING SUCKS!!

Isn't bitfury Russian? I'm pretty sure most of the companies that have failed to deliver have been American - BFL, HF, VMC, Terrahash, and even Cointerra is late.  All US companies.

Imagine that  Roll Eyes

I'm almost ashamed to be an American anymore..................  Cry

& it's not just because of these companies.........ALL corporations & politicians are corrupt & only want 2 things.......more money & more power  Roll Eyes
 
Hate to say it,but American women are just about to be lumped into that category too  Cheesy


...lolz

I suppose its ok to sya that as I think there are about 2 woman for the whole crypto community and both of them have mustaches Cheesy
legendary
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Another lie from dropt!  Who'dathunkit?

BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date.  Be that as it may, if history repeats itself, we'll be right on target and timeframe for the Monarch.  Our second generation FPGA was underpromised and overdelivered as far as performance goes... if history repeats itself, the second generation ASIC will be as well.


Dude BFL is a fucking ripoff any way you want to put it...46 bitcoins for 600GH...what a fucking joke. I just ordered 3TH for 10 bitcoins. Your company sucks, and you should be ashamed to be an American Company...take your garbage to Russia with the rest of the bullshit scammers...BFL FUCKING SUCKS!!

Isn't bitfury Russian? I'm pretty sure most of the companies that have failed to deliver have been American - BFL, HF, VMC, Terrahash, and even Cointerra is late.  All US companies.

Imagine that  Roll Eyes

I'm almost ashamed to be an American anymore..................  Cry

& it's not just because of these companies.........ALL corporations & politicians are corrupt & only want 2 things.......more money & more power  Roll Eyes
 
Hate to say it,but American women are just about to be lumped into that category too  Cheesy
full member
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Another lie from dropt!  Who'dathunkit?

BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date.  Be that as it may, if history repeats itself, we'll be right on target and timeframe for the Monarch.  Our second generation FPGA was underpromised and overdelivered as far as performance goes... if history repeats itself, the second generation ASIC will be as well.


Dude BFL is a fucking ripoff any way you want to put it...46 bitcoins for 600GH...what a fucking joke. I just ordered 3TH for 10 bitcoins. Your company sucks, and you should be ashamed to be an American Company...take your garbage to Russia with the rest of the bullshit scammers...BFL FUCKING SUCKS!!

Isn't bitfury Russian? I'm pretty sure most of the companies that have failed to deliver have been American - BFL, HF, VMC, Terrahash, and even Cointerra is late.  All US companies.
legendary
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BFL_Josh updated on the BFL forum regarding the Monarch at:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/monarch-discussion/7827-2014-feb-05-monarch-discussion-2.html

Originally posted by BFL_Josh at 02-16-2014, 10:47 PM
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There are no problems with the chip so far. There has been nothing to update, same status as before. As soon as the status changes I will update.

So another 2 weeks and no progress? BFL.
legendary
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I don't believe in denial.
BFL_Josh updated on the BFL forum regarding the Monarch at:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/monarch-discussion/7827-2014-feb-05-monarch-discussion-2.html

Originally posted by BFL_Josh at 02-16-2014, 10:47 PM
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There are no problems with the chip so far. There has been nothing to update, same status as before. As soon as the status changes I will update.
legendary
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I don't believe in denial.
For those truly interested in the progress BFL is (or is not) making on the delivery of the Monarch can follow BFL_Josh's updates on the BFL forum at:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/monarch-discussion/7827-2014-feb-05-monarch-discussion-2.html

Originally posted by BFL_Josh at 02-05-2014, 12:11 PM
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Most subsystems (State, IO, frequency control, counters, etc) on the chip have been tested and passed. The engine tests are still ongoing. The test software was returning unexpected results which turned out to be a bug in the testing software and has been (and is being) rewritten from scratch, so testing of the engines is taking a little longer than expected. The current estimation is that we should be done testing the chip in the next few days. In the meantime, the packaged chips should be on their way to the testing facility, though I don't yet have tracking numbers or confirmation of this. I will be working on getting that today or tomorrow hopefully.
Once the packaged chips arrive at the testing facility, they will wire it up to the test harness and start conducting the full power tests to see just how far we might be able to push the chips and what their real world power consumption is.

Originally posted by BFL_Josh at 02-08-2014, 12:16 AM
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No show stoppers with chip bring up encountered so far, though it is taking longer than I would have liked. I keep expecting a call saying they are done, but there's nothing unexpected happening with the chip so far, so that's good. I was informed that our packaging facility will be shipping out the chips next week (not sure what day specifically yet) - I will be at the Berlin conference, but I'll try to keep things updated as best I can whilst traveling.
hero member
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Half way through February and still nothing from BFL? November 2013 looking SOLID!

Maybe you missed Josh's post earlier in this thread:

BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date.  Be that as it may, if history repeats itself, we'll be right on target and timeframe for the Monarch.  Our second generation FPGA was underpromised and overdelivered as far as performance goes... if history repeats itself, the second generation ASIC will be as well.

As you can see there is nothing to worry about. First they can not be classified as late because they never promised a date. BFL late again? IMPOSSIBLE! Next for those worried about "history repeating itself"; as you can see Josh IS counting on history repeating itself. The problem is that none of you are smart enough to realize that history skips every other generation. So it's not their extremely late gen1 ASIC history that will be repeated but their FPGA history which according to Josh "grounded deeply in reality" Zerlan, was "underpromised and overdelivered". All Monarch customers can rest assured that their products will arrive right on the never promised ship date. Hurray!
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