Topic: {BFL} WHAT THE!! ButterflyLads WONT deliver the Monarch Till...ONLY GOD KNOWs?:( - page 20. (Read 48002 times)
January 24, 2014, 02:26:22 PM
i find it a joke that these are still going to be used for PCI-e ports. they will be far too massive, and it makes no sense in comparison to just using USB and having them external like the previous gear
January 24, 2014, 02:23:19 PM
acouple more lies from your boy Josh:
Monarch Information-hangman.jpg
No noose is good noose?
Maybe so! No word from the packaging facility as of yet, which means there's no problems. That's good. That's really all the update I have, as the status of things hasn't changed much since last week - just waiting on slicing/dicing/packaging. While we expect the chips out sooner, the end of next week is the absolute latest date the packaging facility gave us on chips, so it's unlikely it would be any longer than that, but hopefully shorter. The fact that they haven't come back to us with any problems at this stage is encouraging and indicates things are running smoothly on their end, as they'd be burning up the phone lines if there was an issue.
One a slightly related note, I should have the draft of the Monarch communication protocol (detailing how to communicate with it over PCIe and over USB) in the next couple days, which I will post here once I'm satisfied with the draft. At that time, you guys can pick it apart and we'll see about making revision.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html
Monarch Information-hangman.jpg
No noose is good noose?
Maybe so! No word from the packaging facility as of yet, which means there's no problems. That's good. That's really all the update I have, as the status of things hasn't changed much since last week - just waiting on slicing/dicing/packaging. While we expect the chips out sooner, the end of next week is the absolute latest date the packaging facility gave us on chips, so it's unlikely it would be any longer than that, but hopefully shorter. The fact that they haven't come back to us with any problems at this stage is encouraging and indicates things are running smoothly on their end, as they'd be burning up the phone lines if there was an issue.
One a slightly related note, I should have the draft of the Monarch communication protocol (detailing how to communicate with it over PCIe and over USB) in the next couple days, which I will post here once I'm satisfied with the draft. At that time, you guys can pick it apart and we'll see about making revision.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html
January 24, 2014, 02:14:45 PM
Anyone who ordered a Monarch and thought it was going to be on time is pretty dumb.
This company has a terrible, terrible track record. Some of the last generation products were what, shipped a YEAR late? More than a year?
It was painfully obvious there was no way in hell they were going to finish the Monarch when they said. I said as much when they first announced it, trying to talk people out of ordering. You have to be just plain dumb if you thought they would ship on time, knowing their slimy track-record.
I feel bad for the people who ordered all the non-Monarch gear, that was a shitty mess to be in. But I don't feel that bad for people who ordered Monarchs. Once again, you were just plain dumb to believe they'd ship it on time if you did any research at all into the company.
BFL probably only had the vaguest idea of how to build the Monarch. They probably just some doodles on a napkin which was the extent of the design plans when they announced the product. All the idiots who ordered the product gave them money to actually feasibly develop it. I'm guessing the first Monarch will arrive late May, early June. No way it's going to ROI, not a chance (if you paid in BTC. If you paid in fiat, then maybe)...
This company has a terrible, terrible track record. Some of the last generation products were what, shipped a YEAR late? More than a year?
It was painfully obvious there was no way in hell they were going to finish the Monarch when they said. I said as much when they first announced it, trying to talk people out of ordering. You have to be just plain dumb if you thought they would ship on time, knowing their slimy track-record.
I feel bad for the people who ordered all the non-Monarch gear, that was a shitty mess to be in. But I don't feel that bad for people who ordered Monarchs. Once again, you were just plain dumb to believe they'd ship it on time if you did any research at all into the company.
BFL probably only had the vaguest idea of how to build the Monarch. They probably just some doodles on a napkin which was the extent of the design plans when they announced the product. All the idiots who ordered the product gave them money to actually feasibly develop it. I'm guessing the first Monarch will arrive late May, early June. No way it's going to ROI, not a chance (if you paid in BTC. If you paid in fiat, then maybe)...
January 24, 2014, 02:07:16 PM
Dude BFL is a fucking ripoff any way you want to put it...46 bitcoins for 600GH...what a fucking joke. I just ordered 3TH for 10 bitcoins. Your company sucks, and you should be ashamed to be an American Company...take your garbage to Russia with the rest of the bullshit scammers...BFL FUCKING SUCKS!!
Not that I'm defending BFL here, but you appear to be blaming BFL for the rise in the value of Bitcoin against USD. That seems rather stupid, frankly. Asinine, even. BFL received their payment in USD from Bitpay, so it's not like they profited from the rise, and there's nothing else to be done about it.
There are plenty of reasons to dislike BFL. This isn't one of them.
Also, buying mining hardware with BTC is pretty stupid.
January 24, 2014, 01:33:20 PM
A tipp for everyone who hasn't yet ordered from BFL and is outside the U.S.:
Calculate with shipping time! I am from Europe and thought normal shipping procedures would be sufficient. Big mistake, normal shipping took over a month.
It was not the first time i ordered from the U.S., but ususally shipping didn't take much over a week.
And no - it wasn't customs - local customs took only a few days. So in case you haven't yet: Only use express shipping.
I'm happy i'm no longer invested in BFL, waiting for a shipment.
Calculate with shipping time! I am from Europe and thought normal shipping procedures would be sufficient. Big mistake, normal shipping took over a month.
It was not the first time i ordered from the U.S., but ususally shipping didn't take much over a week.
And no - it wasn't customs - local customs took only a few days. So in case you haven't yet: Only use express shipping.
I'm happy i'm no longer invested in BFL, waiting for a shipment.
January 24, 2014, 12:31:18 AM
Another lie from dropt! Who'dathunkit?
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date. Be that as it may, if history repeats itself, we'll be right on target and timeframe for the Monarch. Our second generation FPGA was underpromised and overdelivered as far as performance goes... if history repeats itself, the second generation ASIC will be as well.
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date. Be that as it may, if history repeats itself, we'll be right on target and timeframe for the Monarch. Our second generation FPGA was underpromised and overdelivered as far as performance goes... if history repeats itself, the second generation ASIC will be as well.
Here is a little joke that illustrates the eternal optimism of the BFL sock pupperts.
he Pony
(It’s All In How You Look At It)
A family had twin boys whose only resemblance to each other was their looks. If one felt it was too hot, the other thought it was too cold. If one said the t.v. was too loud, the other claimed the volume needed to be turned up. Opposite in every way, one was an eternal optimist, the other a doom & gloom pessimist. Just to see what would happen, on the twins’ birthday their father loaded the pessimist’s room with every imaginable toy and game. The optimist’s room he loaded with horse manure.
That night the father passed by the pessimist’s room and found him sitting amid his new gifts crying bitterly.
“Why are you crying?” the father asked.
“Because my friends will be jealous, I’ll have to read all of these instructions before I can do anything with this stuff, I’ll constantly need batteries, and my toys will eventually get broken,” answered the pessimist twin.
Passing the optimist twin’s room, the father found him dancing for joy in the pile of manure. “What are you so happy about?” he asked.
To which his optimist twin replied, “With all this horse shit, there’s got to be a pony in here somewhere!”
January 24, 2014, 12:16:49 AM
Another lie from dropt! Who'dathunkit?
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date. Be that as it may, if history repeats itself, we'll be right on target and timeframe for the Monarch. Our second generation FPGA was underpromised and overdelivered as far as performance goes... if history repeats itself, the second generation ASIC will be as well.
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date. Be that as it may, if history repeats itself, we'll be right on target and timeframe for the Monarch. Our second generation FPGA was underpromised and overdelivered as far as performance goes... if history repeats itself, the second generation ASIC will be as well.
Dude BFL is a fucking ripoff any way you want to put it...46 bitcoins for 600GH...what a fucking joke. I just ordered 3TH for 10 bitcoins. Your company sucks, and you should be ashamed to be an American Company...take your garbage to Russia with the rest of the bullshit scammers...BFL FUCKING SUCKS!!
Its a sad sad fact that ButtFuckingLiars is a representative of Amercian know how and can do
What happened to America ?
Corperate greed.............................
January 24, 2014, 12:15:26 AM
Another lie from dropt! Who'dathunkit?
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date. Be that as it may, if history repeats itself, we'll be right on target and timeframe for the Monarch. Our second generation FPGA was underpromised and overdelivered as far as performance goes... if history repeats itself, the second generation ASIC will be as well.
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date. Be that as it may, if history repeats itself, we'll be right on target and timeframe for the Monarch. Our second generation FPGA was underpromised and overdelivered as far as performance goes... if history repeats itself, the second generation ASIC will be as well.
Dude BFL is a fucking ripoff any way you want to put it...46 bitcoins for 600GH...what a fucking joke. I just ordered 3TH for 10 bitcoins. Your company sucks, and you should be ashamed to be an American Company...take your garbage to Russia with the rest of the bullshit scammers...BFL FUCKING SUCKS!!
Its a sad sad fact that ButtFuckingLiars is a representative of Amercian know how and can do
What happened to America ?
January 23, 2014, 04:18:27 PM
[More of Josh's attempted coverups for his incompetency]
Dude BFL is a fucking ripoff any way you want to put it...46 bitcoins for 600GH...what a fucking joke. I just ordered 3TH for 10 bitcoins. Your company sucks, and you should be ashamed to be an American Company...take your garbage to Russia with the rest of the bullshit scammers...BFL FUCKING SUCKS!!
Word.
January 22, 2014, 04:32:52 PM
Another lie from dropt! Who'dathunkit?
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date. Be that as it may, if history repeats itself, we'll be right on target and timeframe for the Monarch. Our second generation FPGA was underpromised and overdelivered as far as performance goes... if history repeats itself, the second generation ASIC will be as well.
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date. Be that as it may, if history repeats itself, we'll be right on target and timeframe for the Monarch. Our second generation FPGA was underpromised and overdelivered as far as performance goes... if history repeats itself, the second generation ASIC will be as well.
Dude BFL is a fucking ripoff any way you want to put it...46 bitcoins for 600GH...what a fucking joke. I just ordered 3TH for 10 bitcoins. Your company sucks, and you should be ashamed to be an American Company...take your garbage to Russia with the rest of the bullshit scammers...BFL FUCKING SUCKS!!
January 21, 2014, 07:57:05 PM
Another lie from dropt! Who'dathunkit?
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date. Be that as it may, if history repeats itself, we'll be right on target and timeframe for the Monarch. Our second generation FPGA was underpromised and overdelivered as far as performance goes... if history repeats itself, the second generation ASIC will be as well.
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date. Be that as it may, if history repeats itself, we'll be right on target and timeframe for the Monarch. Our second generation FPGA was underpromised and overdelivered as far as performance goes... if history repeats itself, the second generation ASIC will be as well.
Heres BFL_Josh trusted feedback link. Please give them a Trusted feedback
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bfljosh-63314
Also Here's Inaba trusted feedback link. Please give him a Trusted feedback as-well
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=8198
January 21, 2014, 07:36:41 AM
Posted on 19 Aug 2013:
TIL that October - Jan is < 1 month. Good show Josh good show. Keep yelling the sky is green and hopefully enough suckers out there will ignore all the facts and waste their money on another BFL pre-order. I guess it's really your only option at this point. I'm sure that anybody who ordered a Monarch in August and now believes your latest update signifies that you are ~3 months behind schedule (so far) are just delusional cry babies that you don't want as customers anyway, right?
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind
TIL that October - Jan is < 1 month. Good show Josh good show. Keep yelling the sky is green and hopefully enough suckers out there will ignore all the facts and waste their money on another BFL pre-order. I guess it's really your only option at this point. I'm sure that anybody who ordered a Monarch in August and now believes your latest update signifies that you are ~3 months behind schedule (so far) are just delusional cry babies that you don't want as customers anyway, right?
How hard does one have to lie to oneself in order to believe ones own bullshit?
January 20, 2014, 02:33:05 PM
In another thread Josh actually said that Hashfast was "less late then KnC". Which is obviously insane.
Shows you just how disconnected from reality he actually is.
You mean discounting the fact that Hashfast is less late than KnC is at the moment? KnC promised summer delivery and didn't ship until the middle of October.
Shows you just how disconnected from reality he actually is.
I strongly believe he's counting on confusing brand new mining customers who don't have the time or energy to look up all of the details which is interesting since he's also always claiming these forums are irrelevant.
He's refering to their initial time line before they actually opened pre-orders. For the record, as a day 2 Jupiter customer, I can personally confirm that I received my order almost exactly 1 week late from the time I was told it would be delivered (end of September for day1/2 orders) when I placed my order in June. Keep in mind that my Jupiter was also 35-40% faster than originally advertised as well and is now overclocked for an additional 25% on top of that. The rest of that batch was promised no later than Oct 15th which I believe they met within a week as well.
January 20, 2014, 02:17:53 PM
In another thread Josh actually said that Hashfast was "less late then KnC". Which is obviously insane.
You mean discounting the fact that Hashfast is less late than KnC is at the moment? KnC promised summer delivery and didn't ship until the middle of October.
Shows you just how disconnected from reality he actually is.
Bugger that, at no point now or in the future should BFL talk to Scamfast.
Last thing we need is josh to infect castro with his mystical pony land ideas
If its going to be anyone it should be KNC. if you love em or hate em least they got rigs out the door without to much delay
Last thing we need is josh to infect castro with his mystical pony land ideas
If its going to be anyone it should be KNC. if you love em or hate em least they got rigs out the door without to much delay
You mean discounting the fact that Hashfast is less late than KnC is at the moment? KnC promised summer delivery and didn't ship until the middle of October.
Shows you just how disconnected from reality he actually is.
January 20, 2014, 02:17:34 PM
Posted on 19 Aug 2013:
TIL that October - Jan is < 1 month. Good show Josh good show. Keep yelling the sky is green and hopefully enough suckers out there will ignore all the facts and waste their money on another BFL pre-order. I guess it's really your only option at this point. I'm sure that anybody who ordered a Monarch in August and now believes your latest update signifies that you are ~3 months behind schedule (so far) are just delusional cry babies that you don't want as customers anyway, right?
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind
TIL that October - Jan is < 1 month. Good show Josh good show. Keep yelling the sky is green and hopefully enough suckers out there will ignore all the facts and waste their money on another BFL pre-order. I guess it's really your only option at this point. I'm sure that anybody who ordered a Monarch in August and now believes your latest update signifies that you are ~3 months behind schedule (so far) are just delusional cry babies that you don't want as customers anyway, right?
January 20, 2014, 11:44:11 AM
How much did the monarchs cost? and what was a bitcoin worth when everyone ordered them? Did people spend like 40 bitcoins on these monarchs?
Just north of $4,600 for the Monarch at a time when BTC was ~$100. So, about 46BTC. Which might not have been terrible if Josh's original estimate of October/November delivery wasn't just another dose of his usual lieing bullshit.
January 20, 2014, 11:21:34 AM
Original schedule: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post53173
What really happened: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post74594
Schedule slipped from October to January. That's 3 months late.
Quote
Middle/Late October
Chips are out of the fab and sent to the slice
Chips are out of the fab and sent to the slice
What really happened: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post74594
Quote
The silicon wafers are at the packaging plant as of the 13th of January.
Schedule slipped from October to January. That's 3 months late.
I like how
How much did the monarchs cost? and what was a bitcoin worth when everyone ordered them? Did people spend like 40 bitcoins on these monarchs?
January 20, 2014, 12:51:18 AM
Original schedule: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post53173
What really happened: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post74594
Schedule slipped from October to January. That's 3 months late.
Quote
Middle/Late October
Chips are out of the fab and sent to the slice
Chips are out of the fab and sent to the slice
What really happened: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post74594
Quote
The silicon wafers are at the packaging plant as of the 13th of January.
Schedule slipped from October to January. That's 3 months late.
I like how
January 19, 2014, 11:33:40 PM
Another lie from dropt! Who'dathunkit?
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date.
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date.
Original schedule: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post53173
Quote
Middle/Late October
Chips are out of the fab and sent to the slice
Chips are out of the fab and sent to the slice
What really happened: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post74594
Quote
The silicon wafers are at the packaging plant as of the 13th of January.
Schedule slipped from October to January. That's 3 months late.
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So we need to ask Wiarton Willie whether we will see the Monarch in February or we will wait another 2 months more...
Willie says:
January 19, 2014, 09:20:04 PM
Another lie from dropt! Who'dathunkit?
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date.
BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date.
Original schedule: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post53173
Quote
Middle/Late October
Chips are out of the fab and sent to the slice
Chips are out of the fab and sent to the slice
What really happened: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post74594
Quote
The silicon wafers are at the packaging plant as of the 13th of January.
Schedule slipped from October to January. That's 3 months late.
Dude,don't you get it.He never lies,he only gives ESTIMATES,therefore its not a "Promise"
Good ole "Scam talk" right there
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