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Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes) - page 209. (Read 243436 times)

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Interesting, i'm surprised its that big a deal?

Possibly folks buying/selling to boost coin volume?
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"Users are not allowed to have multiple accounts in SouthXchange. Those ignoring this warning risk having their accounts and funds seized."


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To make this fair for everyone, I just sent out the spork that lowers the default tithe frequency to 20 minutes.  This means if you use the automatic tithe setting, the miner will try to tithe every 20 minutes (only if you have coins meeting the difficulty level).

tithe=1 is every 20 minutes now?

tithe=5 is still 5 minutes?

Yes sir.

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To make this fair for everyone, I just sent out the spork that lowers the default tithe frequency to 20 minutes.  This means if you use the automatic tithe setting, the miner will try to tithe every 20 minutes (only if you have coins meeting the difficulty level).

tithe=1 is every 20 minutes now?

tithe=5 is still 5 minutes?
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Things look like they are starting to normalize.  The last mandatory upgrade (1189) prevented illegal tithes from entering the pool in a hard way, but we still had a lingering high POG difficulty.

The latest two versions helped fix most of the remaining (leisure level bugs) and the difficulty is dropping now.

To make this fair for everyone, I just sent out the spork that lowers the default tithe frequency to 20 minutes.  This means if you use the automatic tithe setting, the miner will try to tithe every 20 minutes (only if you have coins meeting the difficulty level).

As soon as possible, I will look at the github ticket that tries to protect the oldest coins (and prefers the newest coins for tithing).

The fix that prevents the '0/unconfirmed' orphan tithe in the wallet (the bug that requires a restart after sending an illegal tithe to recoup the funds) has been programmed and we will hold this until the next feature is ready.


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i'm on 1.1.9.3b
today 21 x tithe 9.1 to 9.4 bbp
4 transactions stucked with status as 0/offline
pogpool showing my tithes only 101.93 out of 4500 total
i guess i will be paid only for this amount, so ~2000 bbp
half of tithes goes dont know where... i just losing my coin age

EDIT: pyaout was 2119


We will make an enhancement soon that will free the transactions that were rejected immediately (so that people do not have to restart the wallet to free those tx).

On the rest of this, please wait til we have 80% upgraded to 1193+.  This is because we really need to see the pogpool behaving correctly before I explain how to run the command that shows your total in/vs tithed (doing it now will just confuse everyone, as we have a lot of tithes on the old versions).



EDIT: I was receiving a database error when posting, please disregard.


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Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
i'm on 1.1.9.3b
today 21 x tithe 9.1 to 9.4 bbp
4 transactions stucked with status as 0/offline
pogpool showing my tithes only 101.93 out of 4500 total
i guess i will be paid only for this amount, so ~2000 bbp
half of tithes goes dont know where... i just losing my coin age

EDIT: pyaout was 2119


We will make an enhancement soon that will free the transactions that were rejected immediately (so that people do not have to restart the wallet to free those tx).

On the rest of this, please wait til we have 80% upgraded to 1193+.  This is because we really need to see the pogpool behaving correctly before I explain how to run the command that shows your total in/vs tithed (doing it now will just confuse everyone, as we have a lot of tithes on the old versions).

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i'm on 1.1.9.3b
today 21 x tithe 9.1 to 9.4 bbp
4 transactions stucked with status as 0/offline
pogpool showing my tithes only 101.93 out of 4500 total
i guess i will be paid only for this amount, so ~2000 bbp
half of tithes goes dont know where... i just losing my coin age

EDIT: pyaout was 2119
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Laughing at whoever is liquidating their BBP in $.15 trades...

Check the BBP amount he is selling every trade; I guess he's trying to send out a message.

If the message is, "I'm an emotional infant", then yes, I got it.

It truly takes all kinds...
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Laughing at whoever is liquidating their BBP in $.15 trades...

Check the BBP amount he is selling every trade; I guess he's trying to send out a message.
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Laughing at whoever is liquidating their BBP in $.15 trades...
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yet the actual tithe you sent is raising the difficulty by that amount.

It looks like you're able to detect the illegal tithes, but the PoG difficulty is counting donations whether they are qualified PoG Tithes or not. I see why PoG difficulty is so high now. So, if someone wanted to donate 75k BBP out of the goodness of their heart, none of us could PoG tithe for that day?

If I understand everything correctly, this would affect only next 6 hours to difficulty and would make next payments smaller than tithes.

That makes sense because difficulty only looks 50 blocks back (205 blocks a "day"... ~6 hours).

Payment would be less than tithes because overall pool payout exceeds donations? If the tithe is "illegal" for PoG, wouldn't it be excluded from the daily PoG payout calculation?

Illegal tithes don't get inducted into the pool.

So pool payouts are only based on legal tithe share weight %s.

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yet the actual tithe you sent is raising the difficulty by that amount.

It looks like you're able to detect the illegal tithes, but the PoG difficulty is counting donations whether they are qualified PoG Tithes or not. I see why PoG difficulty is so high now. So, if someone wanted to donate 75k BBP out of the goodness of their heart, none of us could PoG tithe for that day?

If I understand everything correctly, this would affect only next 6 hours to difficulty and would make next payments smaller than tithes.

That makes sense because difficulty only looks 50 blocks back (205 blocks a "day"... ~6 hours).

Payment would be less than tithes because overall pool payout exceeds donations? If the tithe is "illegal" for PoG, wouldn't it be excluded from the daily PoG payout calculation?
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1.1.9.4-BiblePay
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- Ensure the auto-tithe feature sends .01 bbp less than the difficulty
level.  To prevent illegal tithes.
- Ensure Pog Pool displays full tithe amount scale (and pogpool rpc command).



MacOS and PPAs versions are also available.
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Leisure Upgrade


- Ensure the auto-tithe feature sends .01 bbp less than the difficulty
level.  To prevent illegal tithes.
- Ensure Pog Pool displays full tithe amount scale (and pogpool rpc command).

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yet the actual tithe you sent is raising the difficulty by that amount.

It looks like you're able to detect the illegal tithes, but the PoG difficulty is counting donations whether they are qualified PoG Tithes or not. I see why PoG difficulty is so high now. So, if someone wanted to donate 75k BBP out of the goodness of their heart, none of us could PoG tithe for that day?

If I understand everything correctly, this would affect only next 6 hours to difficulty and would make next payments smaller than tithes.

Fortunately, things aren't thaaat bad.  Ha ha.

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yet the actual tithe you sent is raising the difficulty by that amount.

It looks like you're able to detect the illegal tithes, but the PoG difficulty is counting donations whether they are qualified PoG Tithes or not. I see why PoG difficulty is so high now. So, if someone wanted to donate 75k BBP out of the goodness of their heart, none of us could PoG tithe for that day?

No that won't happen - the difficulty problems circumstance is just when the tithe fits the difficulty parameters for the range (IE it has the right characteristics for the period) but for the pindex itself, it didn't make it - another words, it was inducted into the map because it appears to be legal, but was not inducted into the pool because it was illegal.

To say this in a simpler way, our memory pool rules were not strong enough to reject illegal tithes in the prior version at that level, so that once 51% upgrade, the diff should also correct itself.

We also have two more layers of room however above this - but its not important to cover yet.  (Another words we have a backup plan in this mandatory phase to correct the diff if 1194 fails to correct it but I don't anticipate us needing that network change).
 
On a side note, any large tithe (> 10 bbp) does not affect the diff at all.  Also, in the latest clients we use a different foundation address for large tithes also (even though what I just said was true regardless of the address this is just to keep the large tithe out of the pool altogether).
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yet the actual tithe you sent is raising the difficulty by that amount.

It looks like you're able to detect the illegal tithes, but the PoG difficulty is counting donations whether they are qualified PoG Tithes or not. I see why PoG difficulty is so high now. So, if someone wanted to donate 75k BBP out of the goodness of their heart, none of us could PoG tithe for that day?

If I understand everything correctly, this would affect only next 6 hours to difficulty and would make next payments smaller than tithes.
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yet the actual tithe you sent is raising the difficulty by that amount.

It looks like you're able to detect the illegal tithes, but the PoG difficulty is counting donations whether they are qualified PoG Tithes or not. I see why PoG difficulty is so high now. So, if someone wanted to donate 75k BBP out of the goodness of their heart, none of us could PoG tithe for that day?
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