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yeah, but if ccex will be closed for 3 months, then south or qiex will goes up. nobody will wait 3 months for opening ccex

...and I think this could also be a good thing. If both exchanges have such low overall volumes and BBP rises significantly, then chances are that at one point or the other it's gonna account for a high percentage of the overall volume on these exchanges and therefore gain more recognition. Of course we may see huge leaps (up AND down) in the price because of the low liquidity, but again this could help getting more people to look into the project. Wink

This is not like last time c-cex closed registration. Back then, registered ppl could at least deposit and withdraw. Now nobody will be able to do that. This will force everyone to go to SouthXchange or QIEX.

For me this is a death blow for C-Cex, I expect that when they come back from "holidays" the see everybody is out for good. And of course my suspicion is that another "unfortunate" event will happen and many people will see their wallets dissapear because of some weird hack.

Biblepay is the best CPU coin I can find and I am going to quit crunching until the exchange situation gets more clarity.  C-cex is our high volume exchange and I am not going to make the assumption that volume will shift over to the other exchanges.  C-cex has a bunch of Indian traders.  The chat is almost exclusively Indians.  The highest volume coin on C-cex is an Indian coin called MCAP, so it is probably Indian traders who make up a lot of our marginal volume, trading BBP back and forth.  I am not convinced they will follow over to the other exchanges but I would love to be proven wrong.  I don't want to get in a position where I can't sell BBP to cover my expenses.  This is a bummer, but I'll be hanging out and watching over the next few months.  Like MIP said, there is a danger C-cex doesn't come back.  It is not good to have had the problems with the XVG wallet that were apparently the fault of C-cex.  C-cex lost their customers' coins, and then the refund policy was done as a buyback with C-cex making the market.  Many, most or all of the people were not refunded their entire portion of their original lost account value, and now after doing this, C-cex decides to go on a 3 month vacation.  This is too great of an uncertainty and poor business management to not have to manage risk accordingly.  


This is a good observation.


Everyone should be vigilant in this situation:  don't store more than you can afford to lose on an exchange in BBP or BTC (or fiat or crypto).  Always make the assumption that one morning you will wake up and one of our exchanges will be gone and then there is no recourse as money lost in an exchange wallet is most likely non-recoverable.

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I see that coinmarketcap is reporting 50 million more coins than we have in the money supply:

gettxoutsetinfo
"total_amount": 670910023.49635832

Could someone see if it is the explorer doing this?

I noticed the money supply was accurate 3 days ago.



None of the block explorers, coinmarketcap or the console agree, Rob.
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yeah, but if ccex will be closed for 3 months, then south or qiex will goes up. nobody will wait 3 months for opening ccex

...and I think this could also be a good thing. If both exchanges have such low overall volumes and BBP rises significantly, then chances are that at one point or the other it's gonna account for a high percentage of the overall volume on these exchanges and therefore gain more recognition. Of course we may see huge leaps (up AND down) in the price because of the low liquidity, but again this could help getting more people to look into the project. Wink

This is not like last time c-cex closed registration. Back then, registered ppl could at least deposit and withdraw. Now nobody will be able to do that. This will force everyone to go to SouthXchange or QIEX.

For me this is a death blow for C-Cex, I expect that when they come back from "holidays" the see everybody is out for good. And of course my suspicion is that another "unfortunate" event will happen and many people will see their wallets dissapear because of some weird hack.

Biblepay is the best CPU coin I can find and I am going to quit crunching until the exchange situation gets more clarity.  C-cex is our high volume exchange and I am not going to make the assumption that volume will shift over to the other exchanges.  C-cex has a bunch of Indian traders.  The chat is almost exclusively Indians.  The highest volume coin on C-cex is an Indian coin called MCAP, so it is probably Indian traders who make up a lot of our marginal volume, trading BBP back and forth.  I am not convinced they will follow over to the other exchanges but I would love to be proven wrong.  I don't want to get in a position where I can't sell BBP to cover my expenses.  This is a bummer, but I'll be hanging out and watching over the next few months.  Like MIP said, there is a danger C-cex doesn't come back.  It is not good to have had the problems with the XVG wallet that were apparently the fault of C-cex.  C-cex lost their customers' coins, and then the refund policy was done as a buyback with C-cex making the market.  Many, most or all of the people were not refunded their entire portion of their original lost account value, and now after doing this, C-cex decides to go on a 3 month vacation.  This is too great of an uncertainty and poor business management to not have to manage risk accordingly.  
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Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
I see that coinmarketcap is reporting 50 million more coins than we have in the money supply:

gettxoutsetinfo
"total_amount": 670910023.49635832

Could someone see if it is the explorer doing this?

I noticed the money supply was accurate 3 days ago.

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BiblePay Monthly News
https://medium.com/biblepay-news

Hi all, I intend to make this a monthly thing, if people find it useful.

May 2018 Update — $28,485 USD worth of BBP donated to charity this month.
https://medium.com/biblepay-news/may-2018-update-28-485-usd-worth-of-bbp-donated-to-charity-this-month-d32f9b75484f


Feel free to suggest other content.
Thanks.
Luke
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Just looking at updates on the biblepay.org site

Most coins present the team - should do the same for BBP - this presentation looks good
https://info.qiex.com/team-member-profile-of-bbp/

 
I believe that this is coming on the new website that is being worked on
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Just looking at updates on the biblepay.org site

Most coins present the team - should do the same for BBP - this presentation looks good
https://info.qiex.com/team-member-profile-of-bbp/

 
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I have biblepayd running for heat mining on an Odroid C2 (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS headless) and sporadically get the following error:
Code:
 *** Error in `biblepayd': double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x0000007f600caaa0 ***

There are no errors or "strange things" in the debug.log, so that's not a lot of help. Any idea (or anyone experiencing the same error on other machines)?

Thx. Wink



Edit: Just for reminding everyone: Today is monthly superblock day, which means there will be no PODC payout. Wink
MIP
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yeah, but if ccex will be closed for 3 months, then south or qiex will goes up. nobody will wait 3 months for opening ccex

...and I think this could also be a good thing. If both exchanges have such low overall volumes and BBP rises significantly, then chances are that at one point or the other it's gonna account for a high percentage of the overall volume on these exchanges and therefore gain more recognition. Of course we may see huge leaps (up AND down) in the price because of the low liquidity, but again this could help getting more people to look into the project. Wink

This is not like last time c-cex closed registration. Back then, registered ppl could at least deposit and withdraw. Now nobody will be able to do that. This will force everyone to go to SouthXchange or QIEX.

For me this is a death blow for C-Cex, I expect that when they come back from "holidays" the see everybody is out for good. And of course my suspicion is that another "unfortunate" event will happen and many people will see their wallets dissapear because of some weird hack.
jr. member
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yeah, but if ccex will be closed for 3 months, then south or qiex will goes up. nobody will wait 3 months for opening ccex

...and I think this could also be a good thing. If both exchanges have such low overall volumes and BBP rises significantly, then chances are that at one point or the other it's gonna account for a high percentage of the overall volume on these exchanges and therefore gain more recognition. Of course we may see huge leaps (up AND down) in the price because of the low liquidity, but again this could help getting more people to look into the project. Wink
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yeah, but if ccex will be closed for 3 months, then south or qiex will goes up. nobody will wait 3 months for opening ccex
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Biblepay is already trading on southxchange and qiex. It's not like we don't have options if c-cex is on vacation. Did I miss something here?
True, but both are ultra-low volume exchanges right now, not enough liquidity there, very limited market, not really usable for BBP. They can serve as secondary exchanges for BBP in time, though.
Daily volume (for all coins):
SouthXchange 41k USD
Qiex: ~20k USD (estimation, official data not available)
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So I have completed what I believe is a "final for now" version of the whitepaper. I've added in a page on PODC and one on security details. ... https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xndlt3HWTWUhZKTql3ajPFItuEUaTkJw

Overall looks great. Page 12, road map progress. Looks weird still... first was colored not grey. If you think of iOS or Android progress meters, some sort of color to indicate what percentage is completed is a better visual IMO. I get closer to the center means more complete, but it isn't clear based on the legend. Maybe make legend text more simple like 0% to 100% complete.
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Hello,

I am having this error. Anyone can help?

"poolinfo1": "Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; ",
  "poolinfo2": "Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:17; Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:27; Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:19; Failed to sign CPID Signature (Address does not refer to key); Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:18; Failed to sign CPID Signature (Address does not refer to key); Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:24; ",

This is a fresh install. I followed the guide strictly.

The wallet is generated automatically and sent 2 bbp to it a few hours ago.

Unable to sign CPID is either your wallet is locked (and you didn't use the PODCUNLOCK) option, or your cpid has not been associated to the wallet (Being that new)
run "exec getboincinfo" from the debug window and paste the results here

How can I use PODCUNLOCK ? what's the command?

  "Command": "getboincinfo",
  "CPID": "",
  "Address": "",
  "CPIDS": "",
  "CPID-Age (hours)": 424288,
  "NextSuperblockHeight": 49200,
  "NextSuperblockBudget": 15375000,
  "Total Payments (One Day)": 0,
  "Total Payments (One Week)": 0,
  "Total Budget (One Day)": 1161612,
  "Total Budget (One Week)": 8131284,
  "Superblock Count (One Week)": 8,
  "Superblock Hit Count (One Week)": 8,
  "Superblock List": "48995,48790,48585,48380,48175,47970,47765,47560",
  "Last Superblock Height": 48995,
  "Last Superblock Budget": 1161612,
  "Last Superblock Payment": -2,
  "Magnitude (One-Day)": 0,
  "Magnitude (One-Week)": 0

You don't have cpid/address assigned you need to associate your rosetta account with bbp
look for that part in the mining guide

podc unlock is " -setpodcunlockpassword" param
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Something strange that I just spotted today: Despite keeping the (v1.1.2.4) Biblepay wallet open all the time, it suddenly stopped sending PODC updates on the 22nd May, with my last payment on the 23rd May.  Boinc was still working and I was still generating RAC.

Could you first try parsing the log - search for "PODCUpdate", see if an error is shown (with the reason the wallet could not allocate enough to send).

Or search for 'biblepayminer' and see if the mining thread exited as a last resort.

I found 4 entries for "BiblepayMiner -- terminated", but I think that these were each only when the wallet was closed.

"PODCUpdate" found a lot of entries, but basically there was one at 2018-05-22 08:29 my time, and then the next one was after I noticed and did it manually at 2018-05-22 08:29 my time.  I'll keep an eye and let you know if it happens again so we can try to get to the bottom of it.
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Hello,

I am having this error. Anyone can help?

"poolinfo1": "Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; ",
  "poolinfo2": "Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:17; Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:27; Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:19; Failed to sign CPID Signature (Address does not refer to key); Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:18; Failed to sign CPID Signature (Address does not refer to key); Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:24; ",

This is a fresh install. I followed the guide strictly.

The wallet is generated automatically and sent 2 bbp to it a few hours ago.

Unable to sign CPID is either your wallet is locked (and you didn't use the PODCUNLOCK) option, or your cpid has not been associated to the wallet (Being that new)
run "exec getboincinfo" from the debug window and paste the results here

How can I use PODCUNLOCK ? what's the command?

  "Command": "getboincinfo",
  "CPID": "",
  "Address": "",
  "CPIDS": "",
  "CPID-Age (hours)": 424288,
  "NextSuperblockHeight": 49200,
  "NextSuperblockBudget": 15375000,
  "Total Payments (One Day)": 0,
  "Total Payments (One Week)": 0,
  "Total Budget (One Day)": 1161612,
  "Total Budget (One Week)": 8131284,
  "Superblock Count (One Week)": 8,
  "Superblock Hit Count (One Week)": 8,
  "Superblock List": "48995,48790,48585,48380,48175,47970,47765,47560",
  "Last Superblock Height": 48995,
  "Last Superblock Budget": 1161612,
  "Last Superblock Payment": -2,
  "Magnitude (One-Day)": 0,
  "Magnitude (One-Week)": 0
jr. member
Activity: 490
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Hello,

I am having this error. Anyone can help?

"poolinfo1": "Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; ",
  "poolinfo2": "Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:17; Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:27; Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:19; Failed to sign CPID Signature (Address does not refer to key); Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:18; Failed to sign CPID Signature (Address does not refer to key); Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:24; ",

This is a fresh install. I followed the guide strictly.

The wallet is generated automatically and sent 2 bbp to it a few hours ago.

Unable to sign CPID is either your wallet is locked (and you didn't use the PODCUNLOCK) option, or your cpid has not been associated to the wallet (Being that new)
run "exec getboincinfo" from the debug window and paste the results here
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Hello,

I am having this error. Anyone can help?

"poolinfo1": "Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; Unable to sign CPID; ",
  "poolinfo2": "Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:17; Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:27; Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:19; Failed to sign CPID Signature (Address does not refer to key); Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:18; Failed to sign CPID Signature (Address does not refer to key); Submitting Solution 05-27-2018 15:15:24; ",

This is a fresh install. I followed the guide strictly.

The wallet is generated automatically and sent 2 bbp to it a few hours ago.
jr. member
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I understand the sporks are there, and you hold the keys to them all.

And this specific situation is a bit of a mess..  

My concern here is,  how was the decision to fade WCG rac made?  Was there any discussion with others, or was it a choice you made?

I think it's important to share this thought process with the group.


If you don't like the fact that I started this coin and we dont have more than one lead dev yet, then please start your own coin.

EDIT: Its not a bit of a mess.  We are decentralized, and we are actually working on a plan behind the scenes to address business continuity and a trust.  I'm working with the non-argumentative core group.

I dont know exactly when I can start this project, but I will make a wiki page outlining the general idea of this trust; and it would address the following concerns:

- The ability for biblepay.org to have an institutional gdax/coinbase account, with several appointed individuals holding multisig keys to perform liquidation of assets for cameroon, bloom or compassion or a charity partner monthly
- Business continuity in the case of a trust member leaving
- More than one lead dev holding spork keys - requiring all lead devs to sign the spork for it to execute
- Merging non compassion charity expenses into accountability.biblepay.org totals
- An SQL backup for tax purposes
- An annual tax report made public, and this also holds harmless the directors of the trust (from tax consequences and liabilities)

The primary focus here is to provide a mechanism for biblepay to appoint trustees or directors to the trust and cross train so that when one individual leaves the trust we have continuity.  

We are scheduling time to have a call with our advisor within 30 days and I believe we will set this up in a basic form before the end of this year.

... I'm still trying to HELP alleviate fears that are being expressed.  Thank you for actually answering the question this time.

I don't understand the purpose of deleting my post, but quoting it in reply.. this seems strange to me.
EDIT:
The mess being WCG suddenly changing policies not anything bbp related, not everything said is an attack on you/bbp...

All I would like to see is some discussion going on, I was hoping there was some behind the scenes you could fill us in on....

Also, Masternodes have the ability to vote on SPORKS and it would be a clean way to gain a true consensus.   Odd's are they wouldn't vote against you Rob, and it is in line with the DASH model. so maybe an option to consider in the future?

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How it is possible to make this change so quickly without any update? MN or wallets update or any other?


We have sporks in place for a lot of network options.  In this case, the only spork needing adjusted is the WCG RAC Factor.  It was 1.5, and now its 1.3 as of today.



I understand the sporks are there, and you hold the keys to them all.

And this specific situation is a bit of a mess..  

My concern here is,  how was the decision to fade WCG rac made?  Was there any discussion with others, or was it a choice you made?

I think it's important to share this thought process with the group.


If you don't like the fact that I started this coin and we dont have more than one lead dev yet, then please start your own coin.

EDIT: Its not a bit of a mess.  We are decentralized, and we are actually working on a plan behind the scenes to address business continuity and a trust.  I'm working with the non-argumentative core group.

I dont know exactly when I can start this project, but I will make a wiki page outlining the general idea of this trust; and it would address the following concerns:

- The ability for biblepay.org to have an institutional gdax/coinbase account, with several appointed individuals holding multisig keys to perform liquidation of assets for cameroon, bloom or compassion or a charity partner monthly
- Business continuity in the case of a trust member leaving
- More than one lead dev holding spork keys - requiring all lead devs to sign the spork for it to execute
- Merging non compassion charity expenses into accountability.biblepay.org totals
- An SQL backup for tax purposes
- An annual tax report made public, and this also holds harmless the directors of the trust (from tax consequences and liabilities)

The primary focus here is to provide a mechanism for biblepay to appoint trustees or directors to the trust and cross train so that when one individual leaves the trust we have continuity. 

We are scheduling time to have a call with our advisor within 30 days and I believe we will set this up in a basic form before the end of this year.


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