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newbie
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Hello, Am I on the wrong chain again?  Even my ancient dual core is getting ridiculous amount of blocks solo mining.  I hesitate to say just how many today.  I am getting confirmations, but this behavior is odd.  Its raining blocks and it hasn't been like this in a long while.

I am on 1.0.3.1 (64-bit) and at this time on Block 7671.



Biblepay 1.0.3.4-Mandatory Upgrade
www.biblepay.org

- Fix ST13 Error
- Fix f7000 Low-Subsidy based on High-Diff calculation
- Fix Pool banning issue
- Fix Read Disk error

- At block 7500, we raise the subsidy back to ~18,000.


You're on the wrong chain. There was a new mandatory 2 days ago.
member
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Hello, Am I on the wrong chain again?  Even my ancient dual core is getting ridiculous amount of blocks solo mining.  I hesitate to say just how many today.  I am getting confirmations, but this behavior is odd.  Its raining blocks and it hasn't been like this in a long while.

I am on 1.0.3.1 (64-bit) and at this time on Block 7671.
newbie
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When will be available the wallet c-cex.com??? I wrote "Maintenance..."
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My personal thoughts are there is no reason to limit pool workers, there are too many easy ways to get around it.  However, I'd say the solution is to show only their first 5 in the logs and then a note that says "57 additional: 542246 (584455)"  Ultimately even big miners are a benefit to the pools.  The way I see it, a big farm would just as well be off solo mining, they'll gain the law of averages and not have the overhead of pool communication (which is very small, but in aggregate adds up).

With a miner with a lot of hashing power though, you need to watch out for the risk of a 51% attack or the possibility of one.
True, but do take into account we have a lot of hidden miners that arent in the pool, I dont know why but we have had about 300-400 solo miners since the beginning.  I am just making this assumption based on blocks not solved by the pool and the connection count to the node.biblepay.org.

Right now, since we're still in CPU only mode (and it seems mid range CPU's are punching out of their weight class), it would take a pretty big miner to go 51% (whereas if we were ASIC, well, one guy with 25 idle Antminers could fork the system and own us all).  The other beauty is right now, you can call up 5 of your friends that have a PC but only surf or play light games on it (casual computer users), tell them how to mine this coin with little impact on their system and they'll be offsetting any big farm due to the mid-range CPU bias right now.  Basically, my mom could mine this coin.  Since she's got an i5 processor (if I remember correctly), she'd offset approximately .5% of a 100 worker farm.  Multiply that by all our parents, vaguely computer literate friends and coworkers and a 51% attack in the mining sector becomes a tough feat.

I would be curious to see just how many solo miners there are, I've got a couple boxes solo just for the experience and I'm a fan of the law of averages (and believe there has got to be SOME sort of overhead to being in the pool, which for most users is so minor that it can be safely ignored, but for someone throwing 1MhS at it, probably starts to see a better return solo after a few months).
newbie
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I just got an idea that might add some value to our community (thinking along the lines of adding features until we are worth more than $1 a coin) and pulling our own weight.

I was trying to read the news, and I had 2 problems.  The first problem was, the headline shows "Kim Jong Un launches another missile over Japan", but after 3 attempts to click on the article I was unable to actually read it because each site wants you to join to read the article (for $5 a month).  So I had to google the article to read it.

Problem #2, news article #2 was "US tank brigade rolls into Poland".  Click on this link, and you receive questionable nudity in the right column (since its from The Sun, which btw I emailed them about) and it is VERY disturbing enough to make a Christian want to avoid the site permanently.  Also on a side note the new HTML5 ads are not blockable with adblocker.

Anyway, I was thinking what if we had Blockchain News?  We could create an RPC command that stores a news article, have volunteers type them from a web page, Preview them, include pics, and the web site would transmit the HTML of the article into the block chain with external tags referenced.  Then later if people view the news from in the wallet, they could up-down vote it.  Upvoted articles could reimburse some BBP back to the key who authored it (like steemit).  Downvoted makes the news sort to the bottom so people dont waste their time reading badly designed news.

Valuable?



I was literally floating a very similar concept around with my other developer friends earlier this week. I feel like there is a lot of value (and difficult problems) in the concept of trying to tie value to the information itself rather than to valuing the gatekeeper to the information. There would be a lot to learn in this about how information is actually valued. One major problem would be dealing with prevailing group bias in pivoting what people want to hear vs what the reality is but it still to me sounds like something worth trying. i really like the idea.
jr. member
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I just got an idea that might add some value to our community (thinking along the lines of adding features until we are worth more than $1 a coin) and pulling our own weight.

I was trying to read the news, and I had 2 problems.  The first problem was, the headline shows "Kim Jong Un launches another missile over Japan", but after 3 attempts to click on the article I was unable to actually read it because each site wants you to join to read the article (for $5 a month).  So I had to google the article to read it.

Problem #2, news article #2 was "US tank brigade rolls into Poland".  Click on this link, and you receive questionable nudity in the right column (since its from The Sun, which btw I emailed them about) and it is VERY disturbing enough to make a Christian want to avoid the site permanently.  Also on a side note the new HTML5 ads are not blockable with adblocker.

Anyway, I was thinking what if we had Blockchain News?  We could create an RPC command that stores a news article, have volunteers type them from a web page, Preview them, include pics, and the web site would transmit the HTML of the article into the block chain with external tags referenced.  Then later if people view the news from in the wallet, they could up-down vote it.  Upvoted articles could reimburse some BBP back to the key who authored it (like steemit).  Downvoted makes the news sort to the bottom so people dont waste their time reading badly designed news.

Valuable?


wow! it's one of greatest thing i ever hear about storing data in blockchin!
now when we can hold full node, or last X block is very usable without having problem with small clients.
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BTW #2 news is very good for us (people from Poland), and timing is very good because yesterday Russia and Belarus just start planned millitary training named "Zapad 2017" ... "Zapad" means "West"
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Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
I just got an idea that might add some value to our community (thinking along the lines of adding features until we are worth more than $1 a coin) and pulling our own weight.

I was trying to read the news, and I had 2 problems.  The first problem was, the headline shows "Kim Jong Un launches another missile over Japan", but after 3 attempts to click on the article I was unable to actually read it because each site wants you to join to read the article (for $5 a month).  So I had to google the article to read it.

Problem #2, news article #2 was "US tank brigade rolls into Poland".  Click on this link, and you receive questionable nudity in the right column (since its from The Sun, which btw I emailed them about) and it is VERY disturbing enough to make a Christian want to avoid the site permanently.  Also on a side note the new HTML5 ads are not blockable with adblocker.

Anyway, I was thinking what if we had Blockchain News?  We could create an RPC command that stores a news article, have volunteers type them from a web page, Preview them, include pics, and the web site would transmit the HTML of the article into the block chain with external tags referenced.  Then later if people view the news from in the wallet, they could up-down vote it.  Upvoted articles could reimburse some BBP back to the key who authored it (like steemit).  Downvoted makes the news sort to the bottom so people dont waste their time reading badly designed news.

Valuable?

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My personal thoughts are there is no reason to limit pool workers, there are too many easy ways to get around it.  However, I'd say the solution is to show only their first 5 in the logs and then a note that says "57 additional: 542246 (584455)"  Ultimately even big miners are a benefit to the pools.  The way I see it, a big farm would just as well be off solo mining, they'll gain the law of averages and not have the overhead of pool communication (which is very small, but in aggregate adds up).


With a miner with a lot of hashing power though, you need to watch out for the risk of a 51% attack or the possibility of one.
True, but do take into account we have a lot of hidden miners that arent in the pool, I dont know why but we have had about 300-400 solo miners since the beginning.  I am just making this assumption based on blocks not solved by the pool and the connection count to the node.biblepay.org.

full member
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@Bible_pay

Regarding the inability to save the letters to the kiddos...could it be my account? I am unable to save letters and I have tried at least 4 different kids. I save them, log out / in, and paste and still cannot save. I have tried Chromium, Fox, and Opera.

Thank you-
m4tsby is acct.

I can't even work out how to start a letter.  I had assumed that you click on the '+' at the top right, but nothing happens for me.  Running Firefox 55.0.3 on Windows 10.

You just go to Active Sponsored Orphans List and right click on one that says Need Written. Click Write.
You can also save your letter, and come back to it and continue typing more.
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@Bible_pay

Regarding the inability to save the letters to the kiddos...could it be my account? I am unable to save letters and I have tried at least 4 different kids. I save them, log out / in, and paste and still cannot save. I have tried Chromium, Fox, and Opera.

Thank you-
m4tsby is acct.

I can't even work out how to start a letter.  I had assumed that you click on the '+' at the top right, but nothing happens for me.  Running Firefox 55.0.3 on Windows 10.
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My personal thoughts are there is no reason to limit pool workers, there are too many easy ways to get around it.  However, I'd say the solution is to show only their first 5 in the logs and then a note that says "57 additional: 542246 (584455)"  Ultimately even big miners are a benefit to the pools.  The way I see it, a big farm would just as well be off solo mining, they'll gain the law of averages and not have the overhead of pool communication (which is very small, but in aggregate adds up).


With a miner with a lot of hashing power though, you need to watch out for the risk of a 51% attack or the possibility of one.
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I noticed my linux miner seems to dissapear from the pool 10-60 minutes after restarting it, but it still says poolmining true

I do run the linux machine at 32 threads, is there still a thread limit on the pool?
Ill double check the debug.log but I think last time I checked nothing popped out at me.
Yeah, I read inblue's post this morning, and have been trying to reproduce this issue (with dissapearing linux miners).
For some reason my windows miners (tiny, tiny chickens) stay in but finally, I can see my vultr-4proc is dissapearing regularly now.

Alright, Ill figure out whats wrong...



this issue 's been around since v. 1.0.3.1
 
all my linux boxes are affected and the only solution was to set up a cron job to restart every 30 min .

win miners are stable in this regard.
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This is kind of a hidden thing in the pool, but when it says HEALTH_DOWN and you are still pool mining, it actually means GENERATED_BLOCK_IS_STALE.  Ill be fixing that over the next 24 hours so you know the pool is not really down.
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I noticed my linux miner seems to dissapear from the pool 10-60 minutes after restarting it, but it still says poolmining true

I do run the linux machine at 32 threads, is there still a thread limit on the pool?
Ill double check the debug.log but I think last time I checked nothing popped out at me.

My miners are disappearing from the pool since two days ago with even only 4 threads and it's still like that. I just set up an automatic restarting of the daemon every 20 minutes with this command:

Code:
watch -n 1200 "./biblepay-cli stop && sleep 10 && ./biblepayd -daemon"
Ok for those dropping from the pool, I just sent out 1.0.3.5 (Non-Mandatory) as a pre-release.
Please test it and we can burn in overnight then release tomorrow.

Regarding the error Happy reported Im still looking at that, it seems to be going away, so Im still trying to get a true root cause.
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I noticed my linux miner seems to dissapear from the pool 10-60 minutes after restarting it, but it still says poolmining true

I do run the linux machine at 32 threads, is there still a thread limit on the pool?
Ill double check the debug.log but I think last time I checked nothing popped out at me.

My miners are disappearing from the pool since two days ago with even only 4 threads and it's still like that. I just set up an automatic restarting of the daemon every 20 minutes with this command:

Code:
watch -n 1200 "./biblepay-cli stop && sleep 10 && ./biblepayd -daemon"
I found the root cause of this - basically the biblepayd miner is relying on the cached credentials too much; I made the cached credentials get cleared every 6 minutes (IE the server must report to the pool and get new credentials at least every 6 minutes), so the difference is - instead of seeing "RMC" which means "READY TO MINE WITH CACHE", You will see ONE "RM" and many "RMC" like you do when you do a fresh boot- Ill have a version out that you can test in about 15 minutes, let me know if successful and if so tonight I will release it as the next version.

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@Bible_pay

Regarding the inability to save the letters to the kiddos...could it be my account? I am unable to save letters and I have tried at least 4 different kids. I save them, log out / in, and paste and still cannot save. I have tried Chromium, Fox, and Opera.

Thank you-
m4tsby is acct.
Let me try to reproduce as you, one minute.


I was able to write a letter as you and save it (I deleted it of course) - ive only tested Chrome and IE.  I see you were able to save other pages, such as your default withdraw address.  Those use the exact same type of save method.  Interesting that Save a letter wont work.  When you click Save on the letter it should immediately take you to the orphan outgoing letter weblist.  When you click save what error do you get?  Can you try going into Chrome, click f12 (developer console), paste the letter and see if you find any Web alert javascript errors?  Also you can try to disable any plugins (suchas yahoo toolbar, chat, etc).  You can also try to go to Account | Account Settings, change your withdraw address to something like Test, click save, and tell us if that sheds any different light on the problem?

Thanks.


Thank you - I will try Chrome when I am home from work.  In the interim, I did try with Opera and grabbed the result.

https://imgur.com/gallery/3KWtZ
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@DEV

Can you please explain what is Amount and Rounds?
I'd appreciate. Thanks
Those will be explained in testnet soon, for now they are not used.
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I have hope Jesus will forgive me, but i was wondering why i got such bad hash after 7000 block when other rigs near my 1700x before 7k block now have much higher? I make some tests and ryzen smt dont work, its even worse, it interupt to reach better hash... 24k on 16 proclimit and28k on 8proclimi
I reach 32k hps2 when i turn off smt in bios and run 8 proclimit
Diffrence between hash on 4 cores and 8 is not 2x its 22k to 32k hps2.
I think wallet dont work with multicore cpu very well...
sr. member
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@DEV

Can you please explain what is Amount and Rounds?
I'd appreciate. Thanks
full member
Activity: 1176
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Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
@Bible_pay

Regarding the inability to save the letters to the kiddos...could it be my account? I am unable to save letters and I have tried at least 4 different kids. I save them, log out / in, and paste and still cannot save. I have tried Chromium, Fox, and Opera.

Thank you-
m4tsby is acct.
Let me try to reproduce as you, one minute.


I was able to write a letter as you and save it (I deleted it of course) - ive only tested Chrome and IE.  I see you were able to save other pages, such as your default withdraw address.  Those use the exact same type of save method.  Interesting that Save a letter wont work.  When you click Save on the letter it should immediately take you to the orphan outgoing letter weblist.  When you click save what error do you get?  Can you try going into Chrome, click f12 (developer console), paste the letter and see if you find any Web alert javascript errors?  Also you can try to disable any plugins (suchas yahoo toolbar, chat, etc).  You can also try to go to Account | Account Settings, change your withdraw address to something like Test, click save, and tell us if that sheds any different light on the problem?

Thanks.
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