[BIP] BipCoin. NOW LIVE. Mineable. CryptoNote. BipCot NoGov Licensed. - page 13.

OrsonJ

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... and the swarm is headed towards us

Quote from: MurderDawg on August 25, 2016, 08:44:37 AM

[wallet bip1cG]: Height 5445, transaction c399e64e1262ca709101cfa9fffc7ea0096cdbe305c8d71605a15b47a02200c0, received 8.774284946701
Height 5472, transaction eb81bfb4009b08c512a87f6204457acc07e03e4a29c47c484c435a86beb63371, received 8.774171994838
Height 5472 of 5472
[wallet bip1cG]: balance
available balance: 15.000000000000, locked amount: 0.000000000000

Okay. So i jut checked in on my laptop and it says i FINALLY mined some Bips (Woohoo!) but it doesn't show up in the locked amount balance. Does this take awhile, or was I just duped into being happy for a minute?

It was probably orphaned, it's happened for all six blocks that I mined today.

bspus

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Quote from: BipGoat on August 25, 2016, 07:15:49 AM

I'm a ridiculously ignorant noob. In the daemon I keep seeing in red "Block reorganized as orphaned and rejected..." A few lines later I see "Alternative blockchain size: 2 with cum_difficulty...." It does end up saying that my sync is ok and returns to showing my absolutely amazing hash rate of 36. This happens every few minutes. Can anyone explain to me what is happening here. Or at least point me in the right direction to learn this stuff myself. So I can cease being a ridiculously ignorant noob.

I used to get that red warning about orphaned whenever I mined a block that ended up being rejected. Have you mined any?

close wallewt and daemon, try deleting everything from %appdata%\bipcoin and restart daemon to sync from scratch. The blockchain is still very small so no problems

Then start wallet, give it the "reset" command to look again for transactions from the beginning.
list_transfers afterwards for more detail

Chances are you will find your latest mined block missing but the problems should stop. You will still be getting some wrong transactions errors but nothing you can do about that.

@MWD64 (or anyone who has a clue)

When the chain forks how come all these problems arise instead of everyone just adopting the longer chain automatically?
That's the case with "common" bitcoin clones (yeah, bip is a monero clone, I know) isn't it?

MurderDawg

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Quote from: MurderDawg on August 25, 2016, 08:44:37 AM

[wallet bip1cG]: Height 5445, transaction c399e64e1262ca709101cfa9fffc7ea0096cdbe305c8d71605a15b47a02200c0, received 8.774284946701
Height 5472, transaction eb81bfb4009b08c512a87f6204457acc07e03e4a29c47c484c435a86beb63371, received 8.774171994838
Height 5472 of 5472
[wallet bip1cG]: balance
available balance: 15.000000000000, locked amount: 0.000000000000

Okay. So i jut checked in on my laptop and it says i FINALLY mined some Bips (Woohoo!) but it doesn't show up in the locked amount balance. Does this take awhile, or was I just duped into being happy for a minute?

For me, it always shows up in the locked amount almost instantly. If it doesn't, you might have been mining to a different wallet

I don't even know how that would be possible. I only have one wallet set up on this machine.

EpyxZ

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Quote from: MWD64 on August 24, 2016, 10:48:21 PM

lol. Cryptonote basic code has buried deep in it, a public key. No one knows what. But it's basically a back door. Probably just a test net thing the developers left in by accident. But leaving it in makes the coins vulnerable. Many CryptoNote coins leave it in. Monero and BipCoin take it out, maybe one or two more, I didn't have time to check them all.

Did not know this. Learn something new in this thread every day :p other day was the anon transfers.

MurderDawg

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[wallet bip1cG]: Height 5445, transaction c399e64e1262ca709101cfa9fffc7ea0096cdbe305c8d71605a15b47a02200c0, received 8.774284946701
Height 5472, transaction eb81bfb4009b08c512a87f6204457acc07e03e4a29c47c484c435a86beb63371, received 8.774171994838
Height 5472 of 5472
[wallet bip1cG]: balance
available balance: 15.000000000000, locked amount: 0.000000000000

Okay. So i jut checked in on my laptop and it says i FINALLY mined some Bips (Woohoo!) but it doesn't show up in the locked amount balance. Does this take awhile, or was I just duped into being happy for a minute?

OrsonJ

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... and the swarm is headed towards us

I don't have much experience with cryptonote coins but the majority of the blocks I'm finding are being orphaned and I'm beginning to find it suspicious. Is it possible for nodes not to acknowledge blocks they didn't create? And what determines the best chain when the reorganizations take place?

BipGoat

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I'm a ridiculously ignorant noob. In the daemon I keep seeing in red "Block reorganized as orphaned and rejected..." A few lines later I see "Alternative blockchain size: 2 with cum_difficulty...." It does end up saying that my sync is ok and returns to showing my absolutely amazing hash rate of 36. This happens every few minutes. Can anyone explain to me what is happening here. Or at least point me in the right direction to learn this stuff myself. So I can cease being a ridiculously ignorant noob.

slb

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Quote from: bspus on August 25, 2016, 06:31:54 AM

Quote from: MWD64 on August 25, 2016, 04:43:19 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

http://democats.org/blockchain/?name=bipcoin

Did the pool break? (and the blockchain explorer)
and it says: Coins emitted 0, Difficulty 0, Network hashrate 0 H/s

They said DDoS.

Who would bother DDOSing that pool?

I mean, in a way its a good sign if bipcoin gets enough attention to attract a ddos but I find it hard to believe at this point

We are running multiple pools on this server. Yesterday and today all pools of another Cryptonote coin were DDoSed. We are working hard on the problem. It may take a while, but the block explorer and the pool will be back online as soon as possible.

bspus

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Quote from: MWD64 on August 25, 2016, 04:43:19 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

http://democats.org/blockchain/?name=bipcoin

Did the pool break? (and the blockchain explorer)
and it says: Coins emitted 0, Difficulty 0, Network hashrate 0 H/s

They said DDoS.

Who would bother DDOSing that pool?

I mean, in a way its a good sign if bipcoin gets enough attention to attract a ddos but I find it hard to believe at this point

MWD64

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Quote from: ?? on ??

http://democats.org/blockchain/?name=bipcoin

Did the pool break? (and the blockchain explorer)
and it says: Coins emitted 0, Difficulty 0, Network hashrate 0 H/s

They said DDoS.

bspus

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Edit: ccminer doesn't have a -i setting but it has a launch configuration, but changing that to something small with <100 H/s is still making the PC unusable.

Told ya it aint worth it. And if you are getting 450 H you must have a very stron GPU, consuming more electricity than even an i7 5930

MWD64

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Update had issues. Don't install. Things will work in a bit. Sorry.

bspus

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I woke up today to find yet another solo block mined on the wrong chain. The third in a row.
For a moment I thought I was causing the forks but it turns out many others have the exact same problem.

I think I'll leave mining until the next update. I hope the new pool works well though.

MWD64

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Quote from: sammy007 on August 24, 2016, 10:45:52 PM

Quote from: MWD64 on August 24, 2016, 10:44:26 PM

We're using CryptoNote defaults. Didn't change much, just branding, and added 4 decimal places to granularity. Plus usual, ports, seed node IPs, random number. And removed that friggin' public key!

MWD

I see. May I ask what is "friggin' public key"?

It's pretty damn serious. No coin that leaves it in should probably be supported.

Here's a Monero dev discussion about it from back when. Search this
8f80f9a5a434a9f1510d13336228debfee9c918ce505efe225d8c94d045fa115
on this page:
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/blowing-the-lid-off-the-cryptonote-bytecoin-scam.357205/page-11

We found it on our own and googled it and found the Monero guys also found and dealt with it. But it's in some of the lesser CryptoNote coins, and still in the CryptoNote base code.

MWD

MWD64

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Quote from: sammy007 on August 24, 2016, 10:45:52 PM

Quote from: MWD64 on August 24, 2016, 10:44:26 PM

We're using CryptoNote defaults. Didn't change much, just branding, and added 4 decimal places to granularity. Plus usual, ports, seed node IPs, random number. And removed that friggin' public key!

Plus the The BipCot NoGov license
http://bipcot.org/

We do plan to bring in some Bytecoin updates as soon as their latest is out of beta.

MWD

I see. May I ask what is "friggin' public key"?

lol. Cryptonote basic code has buried deep in it, a public key. No one knows what. But it's basically a back door. Probably just a test net thing the developers left in by accident. But leaving it in makes the coins vulnerable. Many CryptoNote coins leave it in. Monero and BipCoin take it out, maybe one or two more, I didn't have time to check them all.

sammy007

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Quote from: MWD64 on August 24, 2016, 10:44:26 PM

We're using CryptoNote defaults. Didn't change much, just branding, and added 4 decimal places to granularity. Plus usual, ports, seed node IPs, random number. And removed that friggin' public key!

MWD

I see. May I ask what is "friggin' public key"?

MWD64

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Quote from: sammy007 on August 24, 2016, 10:30:24 PM

Quote from: MWD64 on August 24, 2016, 09:05:32 PM

CryptoNote-dervived coins don't work like Bitcoin, "halving" is an incorrect term in this case.

We do reference this fact in our OP. "--Smooth emission. Difficulty retargets at every block"

More info:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4ev0m6/monero_halving/

Surprised you don't know this, with MyMonero in your profile.

Respectfully,
MWD

"halving" is pretty correct term because there are different CN coins and each has different emission, some halve, some has smooth emission.

Difficulty not retargets on every block because actually it takes up to 12 hours (360 blocks with 2 min. block time). For example if you throw 1 MH on BIP to mine it, it will reach correct difficulty only after big amount of blocks mined. Then if 1 MH miner will stop mining it can take significantly big time to adjust difficulty back. Common mistake in CN, does not matter for established coins like Monero, but very noticeable for new coins will tiny difficulty.

We're using CryptoNote defaults. Didn't change much, just branding, and added 4 decimal places to granularity. Plus usual, ports, seed node IPs, random number. And removed that friggin' public key!

Plus the The BipCot NoGov license
http://bipcot.org/

We do plan to bring in some Bytecoin updates as soon as their latest is out of beta.

MWD

MWD64

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Quote from: sammy007 on August 24, 2016, 10:30:24 PM

Quote from: MWD64 on August 24, 2016, 09:05:32 PM

CryptoNote-dervived coins don't work like Bitcoin, "halving" is an incorrect term in this case.

We do reference this fact in our OP. "--Smooth emission. Difficulty retargets at every block"

More info:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4ev0m6/monero_halving/

Surprised you don't know this, with MyMonero in your profile.

Respectfully,
MWD

"halving" is pretty correct term because there are different CN coins and each has different emission, some halve, some has smooth emission.

Difficulty not retargets on every block because actually it takes up to 12 hours (360 blocks with 2 min. block time). For example if you throw 1 MH on BIP to mine it, it will reach correct difficulty only after big amount of blocks mined. Then if 1 MH miner will stop mining it can take significantly big time to adjust difficulty back. Common mistake in CN, does not matter for established coins like Monero, but very noticeable for new coins will tiny difficulty.

Ah!
Thank you for your service!

Very cool.
MWD

sammy007

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Quote from: MWD64 on August 24, 2016, 09:05:32 PM

CryptoNote-dervived coins don't work like Bitcoin, "halving" is an incorrect term in this case.

We do reference this fact in our OP. "--Smooth emission. Difficulty retargets at every block"

More info:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4ev0m6/monero_halving/

Surprised you don't know this, with MyMonero in your profile.

Respectfully,
MWD

"halving" is pretty correct term because there are different CN coins and each has different emission, some halve, some has smooth emission.

Difficulty not retargets on every block because actually it takes up to 12 hours (360 blocks with 2 min. block time). For example if you throw 1 MH on BIP to mine it, it will reach correct difficulty only after big amount of blocks mined. Then if 1 MH miner will stop mining it can take significantly big time to adjust difficulty back. Common mistake in CN, does not matter for established coins like Monero, but very noticeable for new coins with tiny difficulty.

EDITED: Well it retargets every block, but not as perfect as it can. Prolly you can change retarget algo so there will be something new in this coin.

MWD64

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Quote from: EpyxZ on August 24, 2016, 09:31:09 PM

Quote from: BipGoat on August 24, 2016, 09:06:25 PM

I did just get a block with my Core i3 cpu. At a whopping 36 hashes. Cool

awesome. Now i have something for the laptop to do :p

Quote from: MWD64 on August 24, 2016, 06:25:13 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Just got a block despite the errors from the pool fiasco, so I can say that it is only inconvenient, mining still works.

There's a block explorer now~~, should match height shown here;~~
http://democats.org/pool/?name=bipcoin

congrats

Thank you for the typo fix. I fixed in the post. Changed
should match height shown here;
to
will match height shown in wallets.

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