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sr. member
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XCP is nothing like Blackcoin. That's what people around here were in for. Blackcoin with some interesting vectors.

Toknormal's reasoning is sound though. The coin isn't dead yet. It's not going to drop to zero unless the team abandons it entirely.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 504
Multisig, Turing complete language (ethereum compatible) allowing the creation of smart contracts, cold wallets, decentralised asset issuance, exchange, p2p trustless betting, deritivatives, hedging, payment gateways etc -- all those features are available right now in CounterParty (XCP), the developers are not anonymous; they have formed legal entities, foundations & have the backing of established billion dollar multinationals who are actively working on building platforms based on that protocol with a multimillion dollar budget allocated.

I don't understand why there are still investors risking everything for a quick flip, pouring funds into re-hypothecated boiler room ICO schemes arranged over skype&irc with marketing fluff rich whitepapers before working implementations like bitbay, instead of projects like the example above.

Shitcoin scams will only ever be short term profit for some, the rest will be bagholders.. it's a time tested notion going back many years on this forum..and many many more years outside of this forum better to go with established project with a strong history for medium-long term vision, the growth will be more modest, and there will be fluctuations but over time providing the fundamentals are strong you have less chance of a loss.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188
the scammer teams split up, so for you it is ok to continue with the scammer who stay in the coin  Shocked
(I can't believe what I read  Grin)

We all have our own definitions of "scam".

I paid into an IPO for a technical roadmap. If that roadmap is ultimately delivered I won't consider it a scam.

If it isn't delivered I will.
legendary
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He is alone in cambodia with no dev staff and deep psychological difficulties. Shady chinese backers who have never given him the money he says himself he asked for again and again. Meanwhile there are three other non-criminal, well staffed decentralized markets coming on line. You prob should not bet the farm.

I don't need to bet anything. I'm happy just to stick with my current holding and see if the contracts can work (on a Mac preferably).

In spite of everything I actually like the name "BitBay". I think it's a class name and the project does have the makings of a potentially solid future. The clusterfuck has all been to do with the IPO and the all kinds of personnel nonsense ranging from incompetence to outright criminality depending on who's version of events are believed.

What's useful though is that the personel that have been lost are the ones that were'nt doing anything useful anyway and the one that isn't is the one person that is required ot take this project forward. So I think I'll stick out to see what happens.
legendary
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Coin is gut shot. Will never recover. Wasn't just bob that did the damage, they are all thieves. Naivite is the ethereum of this coin.

I don't care.

It's early enough in its lifetime for it to recover.

All of this sh*t was about the IPO and its wake. If it had happened 6 months in then - yes, it would be "shot". But it's recoverable if there's a technical momentum from here. If that happens the rest will come because it's moving off such a rockbottom base.

the scammer teams split up, so for you it is ok to continue with the scammer who stay in the coin  Shocked
(I can't believe what I read  Grin)
sr. member
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Can someone convince me, why this coin should have a bright future. Barabras (sry spelling) is right in many points he discussed on unmoderated thread.

Because David has stated he will continue to develop the coin.  Bob and Gekko are bad actors and the real scammers in all of this.  They were part the dev team and once they receive their part of the ICO they basically told the community to "fuck off" and then to add insult to injury they have attempted to completely destroy bitpay and investors hopes of ever seeing a return.

While Bob had done significant damage, he hasn't killed bitpay and the bleeding had been stopped.  Let now look forward and get bitbay moving in the right direction.

Coin is gut shot. Will never recover. Wasn't just bob that did the damage, they are all thieves. Naivite is the ethereum of this coin.

Ive been think about this a bit overnight.  Let say for a second that Bob had done what he was suppose to do, which is market, and in my view keep the price stable (this is my interpretation of the chat logs).  Where would we be today if Bob hadnt invited his P&D group over here, publicly threatened to destory Davids reputation, and posted the chat logs.  He started all this with the view of destroying bitpay and walking away with 600+ BTC from investors
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188

Coin is gut shot. Will never recover. Wasn't just bob that did the damage, they are all thieves. Naivite is the ethereum of this coin.

I don't care.

It's early enough in its lifetime for it to recover.

All of this sh*t was about the IPO and its wake. If it had happened 6 months in then - yes, it would be "shot". But it's recoverable if there's a technical momentum from here. If that happens the rest will come because it's moving off such a rockbottom base.
member
Activity: 91
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Can someone convince me, why this coin should have a bright future. Barabras (sry spelling) is right in many points he discussed on unmoderated thread.

I'm holding. There's no way I'm dumping now at these prices as long as there's a semblance of a prospect that the wallet will continue to be developed.

Price heading back up.

After digesting all accounts from all parties concerned there's only one person who I listen to now and that's dzimbeck. If he says "dump cos I'm not working on it any more" then I'll dump. If he says he's going to work on it then I'll hold.



He is alone in cambodia with no dev staff and deep psychological difficulties. Shady chinese backers who have never given him the money he says himself he asked for again and again. Meanwhile there are three other non-criminal, well staffed decentralized markets coming on line. You prob should not bet the farm.
member
Activity: 91
Merit: 10
Can someone convince me, why this coin should have a bright future. Barabras (sry spelling) is right in many points he discussed on unmoderated thread.

Because David has stated he will continue to develop the coin.  Bob and Gekko are bad actors and the real scammers in all of this.  They were part the dev team and once they receive their part of the ICO they basically told the community to "fuck off" and then to add insult to injury they have attempted to completely destroy bitpay and investors hopes of ever seeing a return.

While Bob had done significant damage, he hasn't killed bitpay and the bleeding had been stopped.  Let now look forward and get bitbay moving in the right direction.

Coin is gut shot. Will never recover. Wasn't just bob that did the damage, they are all thieves. Naivite is the ethereum of this coin.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188
Can someone convince me, why this coin should have a bright future. Barabras (sry spelling) is right in many points he discussed on unmoderated thread.

I'm holding. There's no way I'm dumping now at these prices as long as there's a semblance of a prospect that the wallet will continue to be developed.

Price heading back up.

After digesting all accounts from all parties concerned there's only one person who I listen to now and that's dzimbeck. If he says "dump cos I'm not working on it any more" then I'll dump. If he says he's going to work on it then I'll hold.

newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
If you want to exit bay to rescue remaining bitcoins, user bter to dump into that 62sat wall, theres a stable price exit.

Sure let's give transaction fees to the exchange that actually helped to create this scam. They bought their own ico. That's a fraud play. To make it look good and get others to buy in.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
Can someone convince me, why this coin should have a bright future. Barabras (sry spelling) is right in many points he discussed on unmoderated thread.

Because David has stated he will continue to develop the coin.  Bob and Gekko are bad actors and the real scammers in all of this.  They were part the dev team and once they receive their part of the ICO they basically told the community to "fuck off" and then to add insult to injury they have attempted to completely destroy bitpay and investors hopes of ever seeing a return.

While Bob had done significant damage, he hasn't killed bitpay and the bleeding had been stopped.  Let now look forward and get bitbay moving in the right direction.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
If you want to exit bay to rescue remaining bitcoins, user bter to dump into that 62sat wall, theres a stable price exit.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
Can someone convince me, why this coin should have a bright future. Barabras (sry spelling) is right in many points he discussed on unmoderated thread.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
3k btcs is WAY too much for a new coin. I  bought too early, exited this disaster with a small loss the first day. This crap is a model of the sort of ipo to avoid, one that's way overvalued. Really unbelievable the developers made a mil off this vaporware.

Oooo, poor soul, go figure, you exited the first day, you did not managed to make 3x profit in the first day right? Smiley))))
GTFO!

You are the CRAPT here pal. Coming here to throw shit? "This crap is a model of the sort of ipo to avoid". And what's the IPO to get in? The ones who make you profit in the first day?

You know, if you make money other loose...so GTFO you hypocrite with this bullshit.

"Really unbelievable the developers made a mil off this vaporware."

You knew this info right from the start. Why the fuck did you entered in the first place? What have you told to yourself ... "there money to be made here...I get in, and get out fast the first day with 3x profit".
Guess what, those days are over, you need to use your brain and patience from now on.


How's your coin looking now, you fucking Chimp?

Enough giving these scoundrels easy money, STOP BUYING ICOS! (at least expensive ones).
newbie
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Merit: 0
Jesus thats some Bernie Madoff shit that went down here.
newbie
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Bter vs Bob.   China vs Canada.   Rice vs hockey. Ninjas vs fat man who thinks he rich
newbie
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I can't wait until I retire.   I am going to start a publishing company.  I will host an ico for this  publishing company on bter. I will buy out the whole ico with my own money and then re distribute my btc back to myself.   So now I have a whole bunch of free shares.   I will then write a book on "crypto currency -the early days , featuring scammed,  trolls and pure bread retards ".  I will hype this book so hard.  As the hype train flys I will take all my free shares and sell them into the investors.  Then I will leave the project to rot.   I don't know how to do anything else in life.  So I hope this plan works for me.  Please buy my book. 


Don't worry, I'm sure you'll earn a lot of money !

A lot of people on this forum will buy it for sure.

Could you already provide an ETA for the ICO and for the publishing of the book ?

The book won't be complete until the final chapter entitled "bobs life in jail" is proof read.  This will probably happen sometime after the chapter "bter is after the boss"

The ico will happen as soon as the deal is finalized regarding returning the fake BTCS back to me.  

I will be selling 10 copies of this book with my signature in it for only 500 btc .each.   First come first served.
hero member
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Merit: 500
This is so shady.  All parties involved need to fess up.

http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/2p2e08/summary/

What a open festering sore in the alt world this week.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
I can't wait until I retire.   I am going to start a publishing company.  I will host an ico for this  publishing company on bter. I will buy out the whole ico with my own money and then re distribute my btc back to myself.   So now I have a whole bunch of free shares.   I will then write a book on "crypto currency -the early days , featuring scammed,  trolls and pure bread retards ".  I will hype this book so hard.  As the hype train flys I will take all my free shares and sell them into the investors.  Then I will leave the project to rot.   I don't know how to do anything else in life.  So I hope this plan works for me.  Please buy my book. 


Don't worry, I'm sure you'll earn a lot of money !

A lot of people on this forum will buy it for sure.

Could you already provide an ETA for the ICO and for the publishing of the book ?
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