Topic: BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC) - page 8. (Read 58195 times)

Good thing I'm not talking about you.

Well, the way the US is run these days, maybe it'll come busting down your door. Even odds.


Funny you should say that.


Exactly. It's here.


You are very much confused as to what "whole communities" means. Hint: it's not you. It's not the other idiot and his coupla socks.

Are you not able to read? Most people here won't read through all 12 pages. And I did, and that's why I made the comment I did. Did you read that?

I find two good things coming from this thread, that proves in my mind bitbet is a smalltime scam operation.

This thread is 4th on google, and with numerous threads of similar accusations right underneath it.
The company will not refund such a small amount of money. Good companies go through arbitration and have a settlement, not drag whole entire communities through the mud and smear every person who doesn't bow down to your illegal practice.

So enjoy your $7000, maybe the fbi will come busting down your door. who knows?

I'm seriously only reading pages 1, 3, and 12 of this stuff

As your literacy blossoms you may come to discover that generally when you don't understand a text it's not really the author's fault.


Page three stuff? This thread is becoming a sort of lulz Mecca is it.

These aren't being handled by Ms. Helen Waite anymore?

I heard if you wanted a refund you should go to Helen Waite.

They don't care about being wrong. They care about $7000. That's how small time they are.

Both of the scam threads could've been great advertising for a great service but instead they've been small time, a shit service but they've got their 7k. As I said fairly early, they are bottom feeders.

The op was a naive fool dealing with these people in the first place imho. They make almost 50% of their money tricking naive/ignorant people out of their money. Feel sorry for the op but he's never going to get his money back. The operators of the site made it clear they see all deposits as fools sending them money. They could have various warning re bets but they literally banked on people not reading their faq.

They are scum, nothing more nothing less.

Did you write that? `the point of the sword of some blind demigoddess are a thoroughly fascinating turn of events` lmao.
It sounds like it was written by a machine trying to imitate human writing. The prose is awful and has no relevance to the discussion here. Nobody is signing any contract when they use bitbet. You seem to have this misdirected sense of entitlement and perverse belief that a FAQ constitutes a legally binding agreement between parties. You`re objectively wrong regardless of all these inane, meandering articles you keep referencing to.

The expectation is that you learn from your mistakes. Other than that, you can be as loud as you wish, tho it does cross into ridiculous after a while.


The idea is to defend afore rather than after. In the better words of our esteemed leader,

I asked nicely, in various emails and I waited patiently. I'm not a rude person. They rejected to refund me all times.
Do you expect me to just accept the situation and to be quiet? I'm defending my money like you would do.

Like has been mentioned before, stating that you are going to steal someone's else fund doesn't make it right.

The service is free to do anything it wants, the user is free to seek legal help for any events that occur.

It is unlikely that anything will happen here in favor to the OP, but it would surely be a step forward to show that fully unregulated business stealing from users are still subject to the laws from the real world even if they are using bitcoins.

Like I said before, the entire world can know just by going to http://bitbet.us/faq/.  Because it's public record along with confiscated bets, in their monthly report.

Bitbet.us's owner is (thankfully) entirely correct here:

"The more important point, and where Bitcoin really shines, is that it doesn’t matter what they or anyone else would rather or wouldn’t rather. The owners of the service decide how it works, it is strictly their empire to judge if the increased fees are justified by the increased complexity. If they make the right call they will prevail in the marketplace - over the dead bodies of the butthurt idiot parade. This will be a good outcome for society as a whole, because people will have a good service they can use no matter what anyone else says. If they make the wrong call they will fail in the marketplace, and this will be a good outcome for society as a whole, because entrepreneurs will have one good example to guide their future behaviour by."

The market has decided and will continue to decide that BitBet.us functions very well and profitably for those who take the time to use it correctly.  

This customer base will continue to increase as you freely advertise for it -- as knowledgeable users will know a good thing when they investigate it.  As many have and continue to do.  

Let the free market descide, but don't mis-represent the event.  There was no theft, no scam, etc.  There was a user who did NOT read the instructions and made multiple mistakes sending his coins to the 'confiscated' bin by his ignorance.  His ignorance is not a defense.

Coindesk.com have two articles mentioning bitbet as betting site (u can try to search there in home page). Would be interesting if they know how bitbet works in reality.

Also, I'm going to talk with some friends to write an article in their blogs about this case, and ask them to propagate it in facebook and twitter.

Did u know? if u google for bitbet , this thread is showed in 4th position.

Man, the entire world is going to know how they are. I'm not going to stop until we get our money back.

Fair enough, I'll remove the post.

Is there a trustworthy bitcoin scam business listing?

You better miss that thread again. The guy that started it is a scammer associated to the casinobit scam (observe how this now proven scam is not shown as scam in his list), check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=171094.1240 for the latest posts (you won't find tmbp in these last posts, not sure if it is obvious to you why that is the case).

You started fine by showing bitbet stole you, now you are no longer doing fine. Focus on your case.

You could try news.ycombinator.com

I'm in contact with a lawyer right now - I'll keep you updated. What other sites run BitBet banners/ads?

Where else should I post this to draw more attention to BitBet's scam?

There is no honor among capitalists. If you want honor, watch The Last Samurai

I hope this is resolved, as it removes most of my interest in bitcoin as a means of transactions if the main aspect of bitcoin is the sense of community and personal responsibility, and the community has failed to justly take down such an obvious scam site and/or pressured the company into refunding the man his money for a service not rendered, then there is no honor among any of us.