Does Snackman have any legal avenues he can go down in order to get his dough back?
I have now removed the BitBet banner from my website....I urge others to do the same.
Topic: BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC) - page 9. (Read 58157 times)
This is just stealing, pure and simple.
$8000 too!
$8000 too!
Seems Mr. P's latest touches upon this thread's particular...flavor.
Bitcoin as replacement for the electoral system.
Bitcoin as replacement for the electoral system.
I think that place a amount of BTC much larger than actual bet for and against, just before the deadline, being sure to win is an abuse of the service. It's quite not fair if they really keep the transfered BTC for themselve, I'm not sure about this policy and their action.
But, I you want to bet in BetsOfBitco.in, the BTC should be in your account wel before placing a bet.
I've lose many time large part of my winnings, due to abuse. Someone placing a bet 10 or 100 times bigger than the actual bet in place, just before the deadline, being sure of the win is in fact an abuse of the service.
I hope anyone will be able to recover their coin, because IIRC, their pratice is as unfair as the user who try to abuse.
Wighing you all the best !
But, I you want to bet in BetsOfBitco.in, the BTC should be in your account wel before placing a bet.
I've lose many time large part of my winnings, due to abuse. Someone placing a bet 10 or 100 times bigger than the actual bet in place, just before the deadline, being sure of the win is in fact an abuse of the service.
I hope anyone will be able to recover their coin, because IIRC, their pratice is as unfair as the user who try to abuse.
Wighing you all the best !
This thread is so confusing. How can someone be a cunt and a faggot?
He's just a running dog of the chauvinist male pigs that's all.
This thread is so confusing. How can someone be a cunt and a faggot?
dono but fuckface here managed to pull it off
Please don't respond to insults/trolling. That's what they want.
This thread is so confusing. How can someone be a cunt and a faggot?
dono but fuckface here managed to pull it off
mike_c: Not only did you bring up an objection that has, as octopus said, already been thoroughly deconstructed multiple times
You fundamentally misunderstand what "deconstructed" means. Hint: it's not a synonym of "destroyed", it's a way to say "taken apart so as to better understand it".
I can appreciate your adolescent desire to impress, with stolen philosophical vocabulary, with stolen bits of Latin in the wrong declensions and so on and so forth. You are however quite outside of your intellectual depth in this adventure, and a more modest attitude, better aligned with your actual abilities, accomplishments, and experience would probably work a lot better.
Provided, of course, that your goal isn't to be our little special lolcow.
god, you are such an insufferable faggot.
yes, the argument was deconstructed you massive fucking cunt. it was analyzed piece-by-piece, and shown to be wrong.
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I can appreciate your adolescent desire to impress
funny, because you're the one typing like you just raped a thesaurus.
mike_c: Not only did you bring up an objection that has, as octopus said, already been thoroughly deconstructed multiple times
You fundamentally misunderstand what "deconstructed" means. Hint: it's not a synonym of "destroyed", it's a way to say "taken apart so as to better understand it".
I can appreciate your adolescent desire to impress, with stolen philosophical vocabulary, with stolen bits of Latin in the wrong declensions and so on and so forth. You are however quite outside of your intellectual depth in this adventure, and a more modest attitude, better aligned with your actual abilities, accomplishments, and experience would probably work a lot better.
Provided, of course, that your goal isn't to be our little special lolcow.
Regardless of what you think of bitbet's behavior, this snackman guy is an asshole. Is there a tag for that?
Mtgox price hits 750 (Bet is decided)
Nov. 18, 2013 21:25 GMT
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD&start=1384809900
Nov. 18, 2013 21:42 GMT (Snackman tries to rip off other bettors)
https://blockchain.info/tx/2af75fb4e50a14bf247575bf426615d01f9d6db4d88dc0668d27c88259f68691
Trying to bilk a parimutuel bet after the result is known is very scummy.
Mtgox price hits 750 (Bet is decided)
Nov. 18, 2013 21:25 GMT
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD&start=1384809900
Nov. 18, 2013 21:42 GMT (Snackman tries to rip off other bettors)
https://blockchain.info/tx/2af75fb4e50a14bf247575bf426615d01f9d6db4d88dc0668d27c88259f68691
Trying to bilk a parimutuel bet after the result is known is very scummy.
The price needed to go above $750 which happened Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:58:29 GMT.
Ah, good point. I am sure snackman realized that distinction and was not trying to ripoff the other parimutuel bettors... (where's the sarcmark on this thing?)
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22:13:16 mike_c: i don't that is a win yet anyway. bet is above 750, and current high is 750.0
I didn't appreciate your rudeness on November 18th in the #bitcoin-assets IRC, and I don't appreciate your slimy conduct in this thread.Here's my email to coinjedi on November 18th, with screenshot of timestamped bet transfer from Bets of Bitcoin (times in EST: GMT-5):
Regardless of what you think of bitbet's behavior, this snackman guy is an asshole. Is there a tag for that?
Mtgox price hits 750 (Bet is decided)
Nov. 18, 2013 21:25 GMT
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD&start=1384809900
Nov. 18, 2013 21:42 GMT (Snackman tries to rip off other bettors)
https://blockchain.info/tx/2af75fb4e50a14bf247575bf426615d01f9d6db4d88dc0668d27c88259f68691
Trying to bilk a parimutuel bet after the result is known is very scummy.
Mtgox price hits 750 (Bet is decided)
Nov. 18, 2013 21:25 GMT
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD&start=1384809900
Nov. 18, 2013 21:42 GMT (Snackman tries to rip off other bettors)
https://blockchain.info/tx/2af75fb4e50a14bf247575bf426615d01f9d6db4d88dc0668d27c88259f68691
Trying to bilk a parimutuel bet after the result is known is very scummy.
The price needed to go above $750 which happened Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:58:29 GMT.
Ah, good point. I am sure snackman realized that distinction and was not trying to ripoff the other parimutuel bettors... (where's the sarcmark on this thing?)
how many times does it have to be said? it is the responsibility of the POS system to prevent this.
You don't get a say in allocating responsibilities here. Why do you have trouble with this simple notion?
Regardless of what you think of bitbet's behavior, this snackman guy is an asshole. Is there a tag for that?
Mtgox price hits 750 (Bet is decided)
Nov. 18, 2013 21:25 GMT
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD&start=1384809900
Nov. 18, 2013 21:42 GMT (Snackman tries to rip off other bettors)
https://blockchain.info/tx/2af75fb4e50a14bf247575bf426615d01f9d6db4d88dc0668d27c88259f68691
Trying to bilk a parimutuel bet after the result is known is very scummy.
Mtgox price hits 750 (Bet is decided)
Nov. 18, 2013 21:25 GMT
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD&start=1384809900
Nov. 18, 2013 21:42 GMT (Snackman tries to rip off other bettors)
https://blockchain.info/tx/2af75fb4e50a14bf247575bf426615d01f9d6db4d88dc0668d27c88259f68691
Trying to bilk a parimutuel bet after the result is known is very scummy.
how many times does it have to be said? it is the responsibility of the POS system to prevent this.
it is no more of a scam than if i submitted a lottery ticket after the numbers had been announced. the lottery company would have to be really fucking stupid to award me the jackpot, and somebody would have to be really fucking stupid to claim i was trying to scam them.
it is trivial to stop taking bets once the bet has closed. it should be expected that some bets will receive wagers when closed. a proper POS system will handle this eventuality by refunding the coins.
unfortunately in this case, POS seems to stand for "piece of shit" rather than "point of sale"
so is this your business model? steal from people who use your site, then redistribute some of that money to "shareholders" (paid shills) to attempt to keep your reputation afloat by continually reposting arguments that have already been thoroughly deconstructed?
Regardless of what you think of bitbet's behavior, this snackman guy is an asshole. Is there a tag for that?
Mtgox price hits 750 (Bet is decided)
Nov. 18, 2013 21:25 GMT
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD&start=1384809900
Nov. 18, 2013 21:42 GMT (Snackman tries to rip off other bettors)
https://blockchain.info/tx/2af75fb4e50a14bf247575bf426615d01f9d6db4d88dc0668d27c88259f68691
Trying to bilk a parimutuel bet after the result is known is very scummy.
Mtgox price hits 750 (Bet is decided)
Nov. 18, 2013 21:25 GMT
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD&start=1384809900
Nov. 18, 2013 21:42 GMT (Snackman tries to rip off other bettors)
https://blockchain.info/tx/2af75fb4e50a14bf247575bf426615d01f9d6db4d88dc0668d27c88259f68691
Trying to bilk a parimutuel bet after the result is known is very scummy.
The price needed to go above $750 which happened Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:58:29 GMT.
Regardless of what you think of bitbet's behavior, this snackman guy is an asshole. Is there a tag for that?
Mtgox price hits 750 (Bet is decided)
Nov. 18, 2013 21:25 GMT
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD&start=1384809900
Nov. 18, 2013 21:42 GMT (Snackman tries to rip off other bettors)
https://blockchain.info/tx/2af75fb4e50a14bf247575bf426615d01f9d6db4d88dc0668d27c88259f68691
Trying to bilk a parimutuel bet after the result is known is very scummy.
Mtgox price hits 750 (Bet is decided)
Nov. 18, 2013 21:25 GMT
http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD&start=1384809900
Nov. 18, 2013 21:42 GMT (Snackman tries to rip off other bettors)
https://blockchain.info/tx/2af75fb4e50a14bf247575bf426615d01f9d6db4d88dc0668d27c88259f68691
Trying to bilk a parimutuel bet after the result is known is very scummy.
No need to stoop to MPOE's level.
And yes I agree a site reputation feature would be nice, there are some places that already do this but I'm not sure if there are any specifically for the bitcoin economy.
And yes I agree a site reputation feature would be nice, there are some places that already do this but I'm not sure if there are any specifically for the bitcoin economy.
Yeah, a site reputation feature would be great.
The problem with this derp is this: you bunch of fucktards can't attack MP's rep, in any conceivable way. If there's some sort of herp reputation site where reputable sites are maligned by idiots just like you, the only net result will be that actual scammers will benefit from the ensuing confusion, which will basically boil down to more fucktards just like you getting hurt. Except then it won't be because you're stupid directly, it'll just be because you were stupid a while back and got stuck.
Which I suppose is how the US folk ended up with their current US government in the first place. So have at.
You're massive bleeding cunt and I hope somebody robs your shit website for every coin you have.
If you think what's keeping MP's sites untouched by scummy fucks (just like you) is the fact that he's nice to them...heh.
You're not stealing from MP because he doesn't let you, not because you wouldn't if you could.
No need to stoop to MPOE's level.
And yes I agree a site reputation feature would be nice, there are some places that already do this but I'm not sure if there are any specifically for the bitcoin economy.
And yes I agree a site reputation feature would be nice, there are some places that already do this but I'm not sure if there are any specifically for the bitcoin economy.
Yeah, a site reputation feature would be great.
No need to stoop to MPOE's level.
And yes I agree a site reputation feature would be nice, there are some places that already do this but I'm not sure if there are any specifically for the bitcoin economy.
And yes I agree a site reputation feature would be nice, there are some places that already do this but I'm not sure if there are any specifically for the bitcoin economy.
I used to think MPOE-PR was rude but worth listening to nevertheless, now I think he/she/it is just nasty, unscrupulous, and dishonest. I'm never using any service remotely associated with MPOE-PR and I hope others follow suit. It is mind boggling that that Bitbet's (and it's shareholders/representatives) response to this situation is to insult and berate snackman and anyone who dare come to his defense rather than just refund his bet and reconsider its policies, like any business that cares about its reputation and longevity would. This is not the behavior of an honest company but rather of scammers and bullies.
You are ugly and your mother dresses you funny.
You're massive bleeding cunt and I hope somebody robs your shit website for every coin you have.
I used to think MPOE-PR was rude but worth listening to...
I already had that username on ignore, so came to the not listening decision long ago. I had to unhide to see what this thread was about.I initially thought from the title that someone was at fault and wanted to be paid winnings from a bet they didn't enter in time.
This is not the case, the money was sent to the site, delayed in confirmation and not entered into a bet, and then kept by the site operator. Stolen.
The "terms" that allege that the owner can do this are unconscionable, and no court of law would find on the side of the site owner. Scammer tags deserved.
We need not just a user reputation, but a site reputation feature. It's pretty amazing looking at old forum posts and old correspondence how just about everyone has turned 'scammer' and run.
Keeping for later, you never know.
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