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Topic: BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC) - page 4. (Read 58195 times)

hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 522
March 17, 2014, 09:07:10 PM
You are the sort of brainwashed halfwit who thinks the responsibility for the lost BTC of MtGOX customers lies with the customers, because "it's their fault for using MtGOX".

That happens to be exactly correct. MP told you not to do it. So you figured you know better than MP? You figured you're not required to obey? Well enjoy then.

Bitbet is a scam site. I'm glad to know this before ever using the site. Not that I was likely to, as gambling isn't my thing, but still it's worth knowing.

Lolk.

I am absolutely appalled by your shitty scam-site and inhumane demeanor.

If your mother weren't a promiscuous whore, the world would conceivably be a better place. Not quite as amusing tho.
legendary
Activity: 992
Merit: 1000
March 17, 2014, 11:56:46 AM
Sorry you went through this OP.  It is a shame and everything MPOE-PR said has fully made sure I will take my business elsewhere.  I will never bet or recommend a site run by such unprofessional and rude people.  OP, this really sucks but you have diverted a ton of business by showing the true side of BitBet and MPOE-PR.

A bunch of forum retards != a ton of business. Sooner you learn this lesson, the better.

I am absolutely appalled by your shitty scam-site and inhumane demeanor.

Yes, scamming people out of their money is OK.....and here's how we justify it.
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
March 17, 2014, 05:02:54 AM
It is unfortunate that you deemed it alright to wager your BTC with a service whose guidelines you had not read, and before you had grasped the concepts of transactions and confirmations in the first place. That you made these choices, however, is not anybody else's concern.

You are the sort of brainwashed halfwit who thinks the responsibility for the lost BTC of MtGOX customers lies with the customers, because "it's their fault for using MtGOX". Having just read this thread I have learned two things:

1) Bitbet is a scam site. I'm glad to know this before ever using the site. Not that I was likely to, as gambling isn't my thing, but still it's worth knowing. Thay actually have an entry in their FAQ that says "If you make any kind of mistake in sending money such that it cannot be used to place a bet, even if we're talking about many thousands of dollars, we're just going to steal that money and say "your fault for screwing up mate! lol". Clearly a site run by petty criminals and nothing more.

2) You, MPOE-PR, are the stupidest, least informed individual I have ever seen comment on the subject of cryptocurrency in any capacity, and that is a difficult title to earn!
member
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Merit: 10
March 16, 2014, 08:17:22 PM
Sorry you went through this OP.  It is a shame and everything MPOE-PR said has fully made sure I will take my business elsewhere.  I will never bet or recommend a site run by such unprofessional and rude people.  OP, this really sucks but you have diverted a ton of business by showing the true side of BitBet and MPOE-PR.

A bunch of forum retards != a ton of business. Sooner you learn this lesson, the better.

lol forum retards, yeesss I wonder how many people that were going to, or use bitbet havent looked at the forums before.
full member
Activity: 214
Merit: 101
March 16, 2014, 05:20:39 PM
I recently lost 10 bitcoin to a clusterfuck of poor service on the parts of Bets of Bitcoin and Bitbet.

I bet 10 bitcoin on this bet: http://bitbet.us/bet/591/bitcoin-price-to-rise-above-750-usd/

However, I transferred the 10 bitcoin from Bets of Bitcoin, which neglected to include a transaction fee (and gave me no option to do so), resulting in my transaction being delayed for ~24 hours: https://blockchain.info/tx/2af75fb4e50a14bf247575bf426615d01f9d6db4d88dc0668d27c88259f68691

As a result, due to this unfair technicality in Bitbet's rules: http://bitbet.us/faq/#151, I am now out 10 bitcoin. Adding insult to injury, the mod graced me with this snarky retort: "Unconfirmed bets are not refunded. Kindly see FAQ, and include tx fees next time. Think of the miners!"... More like "think of our pockets which our now 10 ill-begotten bitcoin richer."

If we are going to build an ecosystem that can support and serve the mainstream whose attention bitcoin has recently achieved, poor user experiences like this should not (and need not) happen.

I'd appreciate any advice on how to solicit/enact the refund of my stolen (I do think this is the appropriate term) coins.

If you feel so inclined, tweet to Bitbet that they should refund my coins: https://twitter.com/BitBets "@Bitbets It's unfair to keep @Snack_Man's 10 BTC that was sent to 13EW8oUL5mzLiBbYpZouNqjNsFhabiSoeX. Refund them!"

TL;DR: I lost a substantial amount of money to Bets of Bitcoin / Bitbet for no good reason. Beware of Bets of Bitcoin's lack of transaction fee on withdrawals and Bitbet's draconian, scammy rules.

Next time use Counterparty instead of shady betting websites.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1026
March 16, 2014, 04:48:44 PM
Because this thread is now revived:

OP is a well known troll. I tried to give him direct instructions and assistance on IRC via PM about how he could rebroadcast/chain the transaction with a fee attached so it would confirm in time. He simply ignored my offer.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 522
March 16, 2014, 04:33:28 PM
Sorry you went through this OP.  It is a shame and everything MPOE-PR said has fully made sure I will take my business elsewhere.  I will never bet or recommend a site run by such unprofessional and rude people.  OP, this really sucks but you have diverted a ton of business by showing the true side of BitBet and MPOE-PR.

A bunch of forum retards != a ton of business. Sooner you learn this lesson, the better.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
March 16, 2014, 12:39:25 PM
Sorry you went through this OP.  It is a shame and everything MPOE-PR said has fully made sure I will take my business elsewhere.  I will never bet or recommend a site run by such unprofessional and rude people.  OP, this really sucks but you have diverted a ton of business by showing the true side of BitBet and MPOE-PR.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
March 03, 2014, 05:37:36 PM
Im sorry but newbies should be allowed to post websites until there members.   But seems the Moderators of these forums dont take care.  To be more strict with newbie accounts
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
March 03, 2014, 10:55:35 AM
Thanks OP for the heads up. I was going to place a bet but decided to search on the website first.

I only read the first 2 pages so forgive me if for not following through all the pages, but for a website to last long, the website should look after their Customers.

If the OP's bet was not in on time, then it should be refunded (minus the miners transaction fee).

Very easy, and everybody's happy.

I dont care what the terms and condition states - ethically it should be done right.
Its UNETHICAL to take your Customers money when their bets is not in on time - I dont care what the terms and condition states.

Good luck and thank you for saving me the hassle of dealing with this site!
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 522
January 24, 2014, 04:20:45 PM
(also, why are you in bitcoin if you think voting by completely unrelated, anonymous parties should matter)

Because he's a fuckwit that follows whatever happens to be on TV, and this week Bitcoin happened to be on his TV.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 522
January 24, 2014, 04:09:32 PM
75% out of almost 200 people voted the money should be returned.. Scam job wrote all over it, It's time to give negative rating to MPOE-PR

Go suck a donut, scammer.
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 260
January 24, 2014, 04:05:35 PM
75% out of almost 200 people voted the money should be returned.. Scam job wrote all over it, It's time to give negative rating to MPOE-PR
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 522
January 10, 2014, 01:31:09 PM
Ok, thanks for the feedback but my point wasn't so much that this would be cheating or wrong in some way.

However this was just to support the point that "...the bet in question isn't much of a bet. "
If this individual is hedging both sides of the bet then that is substantially different to walking up and putting down $472k (MtGox rate at the 7th) on the toss of a coin.
That is of course ignoring that this is definitely not 50/50 odds.

You should stick around, a point has to eventually find you and in the meanwhile you're entertaining.
full member
Activity: 173
Merit: 100
January 10, 2014, 11:42:50 AM
It appears that someone is betting against themselves.
Betting on both sides is actually quite common (all house bets are on both sides, for example).
It can also be used to "cancel" http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-cancel-your-bitbet-bet/

Ok, thanks for the feedback but my point wasn't so much that this would be cheating or wrong in some way.

However this was just to support the point that "...the bet in question isn't much of a bet. "
If this individual is hedging both sides of the bet then that is substantially different to walking up and putting down $472k (MtGox rate at the 7th) on the toss of a coin.
That is of course ignoring that this is definitely not 50/50 odds.
full member
Activity: 173
Merit: 100
January 10, 2014, 08:01:46 AM

Part two is in this bet. Find any one Las Vegas bookie that took the equivalent of 460 BTC in a single bet this year and we may talk business. As things are so far however, BitBet is the king of the hill, in no small part because it did the right thing when confronted with you derps.


Welcome back ! I thought at first you'd decided to leave this and walk away but then I realised you'd not posted so must have been on a break.

However I would like to point out that the bet in question isn't much of a bet. The current charts and the miners themselves even back in December seem to believe that this will be easily cleared by the end of Feb.
Also when tracing the transactions back that bet originates from a wallet that had 10k back in April. At first I thought it's just someone with money to burn but it turns out that the 70 BTC bet on the "No" side traces back to the same wallet. Maybe this is a fluke and the coins were sold between two individuals who just happened to bet against each other months later but that seems a bit unlikely.
If anyone would like to recheck my effort this 70 BTC bet (oddly placed at precisely midnight) and this 461 BTC bet both trace back to this wallet

It appears that someone is betting against themselves.
There is a more controversial possibility but I'll leave other people to figure that one out.
There is no guarantee of this of course and I wouldn't put any money on it simply because it would be tough to prove.

It's probably worth stating that I have no interest in if bitbet succeeds or fails.
As before grammar and punctuation corrections are welcome Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
January 09, 2014, 08:38:32 PM
Is this a food website lol ?? Homepage dictates num nums

hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 522
January 08, 2014, 05:00:41 AM
Is this still dragging on ? I cannot see how this benefits BitBet in anyway, even if for some reason Bitbet thinks the guy does not deserve to be refunded, surely you must have some business sense, reach a compromise with the guy and move on.

You obviously have no idea about business. Part one is in the published statement for November:

I'm fairly certain that is exactly what they are lacking, and thus why they must resort to scamming to make any profits.

Yes, but then again you're an idiot.

O, it's very important that under the guise of doing something you guise prop my shitty venue nobody cares about, please do so!11

Yeah yeah, glwt.
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 260
January 07, 2014, 06:55:23 PM
I think it's extremely important to share feedback so folks from all over the web understand the importance on why one should avoid a selective rogue company like Bitbet. Please provide your rating and feedback of Bitbet.us at http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/bitbet/
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
January 07, 2014, 04:41:53 PM
Is this still dragging on ? I cannot see how this benefits BitBet in anyway, even if for some reason Bitbet thinks the guy does not deserve to be refunded, surely you must have some business sense, reach a compromise with the guy and move on.
I'm fairly certain that is exactly what they are lacking, and thus why they must resort to scamming to make any profits.
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