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October 29, 2019, 05:38:09 AM
#87
i think that the problem and the reason is not the way people get paid, by cash or by bitcoin, the market itself, the meta has changed.
now I think outsourcing is the king of the jungle and that is very different story with it  own way of negotiations, payments and so on..

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October 29, 2019, 05:30:38 AM
#86
I think your looking at this in a wrong method, I wouldn't argue that Bitcoin freelancing is dead as a whole, but instead freelancing as a whole has been going downhill ever since everything has become a lot more professional.

The only companies that ever really hired freelancers are the new startups that would like to save a couple of bucks and go with a design/marketing/development agency, or a regular person who can't afford that much.

With the industry becoming a lot more professional and less start up and crypto start ups that are popping up, we are obviously going to see the market shrink.
The reason is simple - bitcoin is very volatile. For example, you agreed with the employer on 0.2 bitcoin. And the next day he fell 2 times. Freelancers do not want to work because of this risk. Therefore, many go to bounty and airdrops from other projects

Agree with you, my friends are also doing Bitcoin freelancing and up to this date, they are still here in cryptocurrency, doing some job, they even have some offer too, but they refuse to accept some as they are already loaded with what they are doing, so I doubt that freelancing is already dead, it's not true.
Freelancing will not become dead even after 10 years. Freelancing is one of the most underrated type of job because some of the people are skeptical with freelancing since they think that the salary is not stable and it is not like the regular job but they are wrong because you could possibly earn more in freelancing compare to other jobs because you are so flexible with your time and you can accept as much as client you want.
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October 29, 2019, 03:02:21 AM
#85
I think your looking at this in a wrong method, I wouldn't argue that Bitcoin freelancing is dead as a whole, but instead freelancing as a whole has been going downhill ever since everything has become a lot more professional.

The only companies that ever really hired freelancers are the new startups that would like to save a couple of bucks and go with a design/marketing/development agency, or a regular person who can't afford that much.

With the industry becoming a lot more professional and less start up and crypto start ups that are popping up, we are obviously going to see the market shrink.
The reason is simple - bitcoin is very volatile. For example, you agreed with the employer on 0.2 bitcoin. And the next day he fell 2 times. Freelancers do not want to work because of this risk. Therefore, many go to bounty and airdrops from other projects

Agree with you, my friends are also doing Bitcoin freelancing and up to this date, they are still here in cryptocurrency, doing some job, they even have some offer too, but they refuse to accept some as they are already loaded with what they are doing, so I doubt that freelancing is already dead, it's not true.
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October 28, 2019, 10:22:01 PM
#84
Cryptocurrencies usually follow the existing trend flows such as when trading there are trend rises and downtrend. As the style event model has its time and will be replaced more efficiently and crowded.
It is true that I think bitcoins help reduce poverty like myself since I participated in promotions and other prizes. However, we must at all times be ready if there is a new trend model like the ICO is constantly dying and moving to IEO.
sr. member
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October 28, 2019, 12:05:38 PM
#83
~snipped~

That is one of the chain-effect of the 2018 bear market. Some of the individuals or companies didn't able to withstand the wrath of it. And aside from that, even there is a so-called "project", maybe others aren't interested anymore to test the waters at those freelance works that pay in crypto.

Back during the hype of 2017, lots of projects just popped out of nowhere due to the fact that it's quite easy to set up a project as regulations aren't that strict.

But don't stop, if someone has a special talent, just continue offering services at any platform. However, consider thinking about other alternatives as we all know that any crypto-related works aren't bound to lasts forever.

True enough, rather than grieving on what happened, make yourself more productive and search for alternatives of it, as long as we are earning bitcoin no matter what services it is (it should be legal), it is still an achievement and it means that bitcoin is fulfilling its promises and its job to help people, we just have to look on different angle to see other opportunities to help us.

We could not rely to bitcoin all the works, there is a saying that "actions speaks louder than voice"
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October 28, 2019, 07:32:09 AM
#82
I think your looking at this in a wrong method, I wouldn't argue that Bitcoin freelancing is dead as a whole, but instead freelancing as a whole has been going downhill ever since everything has become a lot more professional.

The only companies that ever really hired freelancers are the new startups that would like to save a couple of bucks and go with a design/marketing/development agency, or a regular person who can't afford that much.

With the industry becoming a lot more professional and less start up and crypto start ups that are popping up, we are obviously going to see the market shrink.
The reason is simple - bitcoin is very volatile. For example, you agreed with the employer on 0.2 bitcoin. And the next day he fell 2 times. Freelancers do not want to work because of this risk. Therefore, many go to bounty and airdrops from other projects
sr. member
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October 28, 2019, 07:06:46 AM
#81
I'm a person who would like to do some work for Bitcoin, so I monitor freelancing sites occasionally, and at this time I feel like the freelance market in Bitcoin is nearly dead. The Services board is 99% listings of services rather than people who are looking to buy some; XBTfreelancer is empty or has 1-2 projects most of the time; cryptogrind has mostly just ridiculously underpaid projects or again service announcements (shouldn't they be banned there?), and there's also not much available projects overall; workingforbitcoins has very little traffic, just a few projects per month.

It was theorized that Bitcoin will help alleviate poverty by allowing people to work online without any restrictions, but on practice this just isn't happening. In your opinion, what is the reason for this?

Sad to hear that, but most probably it is because of all the volatility of bitcoin. Companies or institutions are hard pressed to keep bitcoin reserves because of the risk that the value will suddenly increase or decrease because whatever value they have, they still have to pay a fixed amount of regular operating expenses.

If we see more adoption and stabler valuations I'm sure this can easily change for the better.


Bitcoin freelancing is not dead at all, but there were just some opportunities that are not profitable nowadays just like joining bounty campaigns, Signature campaigns that are paid in Bitcoin, also marketer, administration, social media manager, and other ICO related job are not that in demand now compare last year.
The reason behind this change is the present strength of bitcoin. Bitcoin always had the potential to survive but no one can deny the fact that campaigns played a vital role in its success too. Now trading is the most beneficial way of making money from bitcoin or increasing the its amount. There is blogging and options like making youtube channel regarding bitcoin or come up with one’s own business.
legendary
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October 28, 2019, 04:08:57 AM
#80
Check out the website https://crypto.jobs/ there are tons of work there with `remote` option available. I mean there are thousands of views on each of them given enough time and that means you have one in a thousands chance to get that job but at least you can see that people are still hiring.

Thousands of views over 47 jobs posted in 2 months.
What does that say to you?
In the real world, it would be called unemployment, in this environment, it's called head to McDonald's and start flipping burgers.

This will have a lot of further effects in the market, one of which is that will a lot of people willing to work, prices will drop, you won't be able to charge the customer too much as he has a lot to choose from. And the tricky part is that with no government involvement (lols, love the irony in this one) there is no minimum wage in freelancing, so if somebody decides he is willing to do the job for 2$ an hour, he will get it and ...there is no unemployment benefit either.....

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There were a lot of ICO's that plans to create one but they all failed miserably in the market, people are still hoping, Bitcoin could be a life saver for those who want to work from home doing a task.

Lols, I think I have seen tens of ICOs that were claiming they will solve the problem of freelancers and they will get you better payments better ....everything. But if you use common sense and realize that no matter what technology you have at hand if you don't have water you can't grow fish, it was clear from the start that all those projects depend on people that are offering those jobs
And if there is no offer, you can't create them from this air...
legendary
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October 27, 2019, 11:16:42 PM
#79
thats only a theory but there is no real agreement for bitcoin and employers ( or vice versa ) that they will provide freelance jobs as offering to the unfortunate ones.

. anyway i still agree on your observation that free lancing sites for cryptos are not really active because im also one of those people who lurk online to find some sideline jobs but sadly thats only what i end up .   there are those active freelance sites but they dont accept or pay crypto and the slots are limited plus its not easy to apply for them .
The competitions between employee is now getting tighter since a lots of people/professionals who wanted to work online is really increasing, you need to sell your skills and make sure that you really deserve the position or you can lowered your rate and work with those employers who are seeking
for slaves.

In regards to those sites that mentioned by OP, interest has been decreased because the employers and employees who's not really in around
this industry are getting disappointed with volatile nature of bitcoin, price is keep changing so instead of using this payment process they might
stayed with regular fiat and find the service that they've needed/offered.
sr. member
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October 27, 2019, 10:27:11 PM
#78
I think your looking at this in a wrong method, I wouldn't argue that Bitcoin freelancing is dead as a whole, but instead freelancing as a whole has been going downhill ever since everything has become a lot more professional.

The only companies that ever really hired freelancers are the new startups that would like to save a couple of bucks and go with a design/marketing/development agency, or a regular person who can't afford that much.

With the industry becoming a lot more professional and less start up and crypto start ups that are popping up, we are obviously going to see the market shrink.
I strongly disagree too that freelancing in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency is dead, it is not dead, the opportunity on it has just lessen compare to the past few years where there's a lot of opportunity surrounding the telegram, internet, bitcointalk. But, there are still some opportunities, we just need to check out on ourselves. 
hero member
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October 27, 2019, 09:17:58 PM
#77
I think your looking at this in a wrong method, I wouldn't argue that Bitcoin freelancing is dead as a whole, but instead freelancing as a whole has been going downhill ever since everything has become a lot more professional.

The only companies that ever really hired freelancers are the new startups that would like to save a couple of bucks and go with a design/marketing/development agency, or a regular person who can't afford that much.

With the industry becoming a lot more professional and less start up and crypto start ups that are popping up, we are obviously going to see the market shrink.
sr. member
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October 27, 2019, 06:51:18 PM
#76
The situation is moving very fast, and what was valid yesterday is not necessarily the case today.
Many amateurs have - fortunately - disappeared from the market, and consequently those who remain still demand a much higher level of professionalism.
everything very dinamic in market.day by day market has different condition.if could not follow this changes i am sure we will be the one who deleted from crypto market.bitcoin freelancing actually has many opportunity to earn money, there are many job provided here.unfortunately most of them didnt understand how to catch it.
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October 27, 2019, 05:31:04 PM
#75
The situation is moving very fast, and what was valid yesterday is not necessarily the case today.
Many amateurs have - fortunately - disappeared from the market, and consequently those who remain still demand a much higher level of professionalism.
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October 27, 2019, 03:01:06 AM
#74
I'm a person who would like to do some work for Bitcoin, so I monitor freelancing sites occasionally, and at this time I feel like the freelance market in Bitcoin is nearly dead. The Services board is 99% listings of services rather than people who are looking to buy some; XBTfreelancer is empty or has 1-2 projects most of the time; cryptogrind has mostly just ridiculously underpaid projects or again service announcements (shouldn't they be banned there?), and there's also not much available projects overall; workingforbitcoins has very little traffic, just a few projects per month.

It was theorized that Bitcoin will help alleviate poverty by allowing people to work online without any restrictions, but on practice this just isn't happening. In your opinion, what is the reason for this?

Sad to hear that, but most probably it is because of all the volatility of bitcoin. Companies or institutions are hard pressed to keep bitcoin reserves because of the risk that the value will suddenly increase or decrease because whatever value they have, they still have to pay a fixed amount of regular operating expenses.

If we see more adoption and stabler valuations I'm sure this can easily change for the better.
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October 27, 2019, 02:00:09 AM
#73
thats only a theory but there is no real agreement for bitcoin and employers ( or vice versa ) that they will provide freelance jobs as offering to the unfortunate ones.

. anyway i still agree on your observation that free lancing sites for cryptos are not really active because im also one of those people who lurk online to find some sideline jobs but sadly thats only what i end up .   there are those active freelance sites but they dont accept or pay crypto and the slots are limited plus its not easy to apply for them .
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October 27, 2019, 01:46:33 AM
#72
in my opinion freelancing is not dead because if we are patient waiting and searching there are still honest ICO projects that we can follow. and also following the airdrop and bounty campaign. although the ICO project was not as busy as it was in 2017. I think it can still be a side job. these past two years we rarely get good projects because we are in the bear market. I am optimistic that when bitcoin bulls there will be many projects that we can do again. and we can also do daily trading.
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October 26, 2019, 06:32:09 PM
#71
I believe this is normal. There are not so many opportunities in this model because even growing in popularity many people still do not see btc as a form of payment but rather as an investment (like gold). When this thinking about btc changes I believe that several opportunities will be created.
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October 26, 2019, 01:18:35 PM
#70
I'm a person who would like to do some work for Bitcoin, so I monitor freelancing sites occasionally, and at this time I feel like the freelance market in Bitcoin is nearly dead. The Services board is 99% listings of services rather than people who are looking to buy some; XBTfreelancer is empty or has 1-2 projects most of the time; cryptogrind has mostly just ridiculously underpaid projects or again service announcements (shouldn't they be banned there?), and there's also not much available projects overall; workingforbitcoins has very little traffic, just a few projects per month.

It was theorized that Bitcoin will help alleviate poverty by allowing people to work online without any restrictions, but on practice this just isn't happening. In your opinion, what is the reason for this?

Sad but true I used to do a lot of gigs and hire people for a gig in Fiverr, they used to accept Bitcoin for all their gigs but now they disable Bitcoin, and they still have no announcement if they are still going to accept Bitcoin again, Fiverr was a good opportunity for freelancers who wants to work for Bitcoin but after it was disabled, we have not seen a good and popular marketplace that hires people to do task for Bitcoin.
There were a lot of ICO's that plans to create one but they all failed miserably in the market, people are still hoping, Bitcoin could be a life saver for those who want to work from home doing a task.
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October 26, 2019, 12:31:30 PM
#69
Check out the website https://crypto.jobs/ there are tons of work there with `remote` option available. I mean there are thousands of views on each of them given enough time and that means you have one in a thousands chance to get that job but at least you can see that people are still hiring.

For every business that starts to hire people for bitcoin there are hundreds of people who are looking for work, so freelance didn't die, there is just more competition now. There is actually more work to be done via online working (aka freelance or remote work) but at the same time there are more people who would like to make money that way, hence even when there is more work to do there is also less work to do since it is harder to get hired and get paid as well.
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October 25, 2019, 02:36:57 PM
#68
Wearing our signature may also be called a bitcoin freelancing in which we are paid for our posts and comments in the forum and we are paid through the used of bitcoin and I can say that this is also a form of bitcoin freelancing in which we are earning through the used of our signatures and we can transfer it into fiat to become our local currency. As what I've see all of the jobs or works that the payment was made of by bitcoin is called bitcoin freelancing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

You are wrong, signature campaigns are absolutely not freelancing, here's a definition of freelancer from Wikipedia:

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freelancer, and freelance worker, are terms commonly used for a person who is self-employed and is not necessarily committed to a particular employer long-term.

Signature campaigns count as long-term commitment, I haven been a member of my signature campaign for almost 3 years already. Do not mix "online earning" with freelance, freelance is only a subset of the former. Additionally, signature campaigns aren't a good career, they are just a phenomenon caused by the importance of Bitcointalk in Bitcoin's emerging economy, they can and most likely will vanish at one day.
You are really right about the freelancer and the signature of the company.  Before I started cryptocurrency, I was a freelancer and earned money through the Internet, doing various tasks, from writing thematic texts to creating specific programs and architecture for various resources.  Indeed, the signature company is a temporary phenomenon, although not only on bitcointalk, but also on several other sites offer to engage in such activities.  But if you look from the point of view of the final result of this activity, then all this activity is advertising in favor of some companies and if you exclude the company’s signature on bitcointalk, then the entire Bounty company can exist not only to advertise new projects, but also to progress existing ones  companies.
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