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December 23, 2016, 11:37:27 PM
#68
I'm not sure if this has ever been implemented yet, but can you imagine a way of paying with Bitcoin by just using your own body?
How about ur wallet, physical wallet? Why going to blood & gore stuff if u don't need too?
I don't like idea of implants, its too physical when its no reason to.
We already have physical wallets devices like trezor and keepkey, ledger for smaller screenless size. Seems like this is already here and being used.
Well isn't the idea of having a phone with your wallet app physical enough? What I mean is that isn't it the idea of having a wallet app to be portable and you can use it anywhere?  Also mobile phones are enough because they show your transactions, they show what you have, you can send or receive money. Putting it in your body might make it worse in terms of features.
legendary
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December 23, 2016, 07:54:47 AM
#67
I'm not sure if this has ever been implemented yet, but can you imagine a way of paying with Bitcoin by just using your own body?
How about ur wallet, physical wallet? Why going to blood & gore stuff if u don't need too?
I don't like idea of implants, its too physical when its no reason to.
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December 23, 2016, 07:17:38 AM
#66
Today this idea seems fantastic. But I think that in nearly future such kind of ideas can be real. I don't want to think about all ramifications of this implants. In all movies such things hadn't a good end.
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December 23, 2016, 07:05:48 AM
#65
I'm not sure if this has ever been implemented yet, but can you imagine a way of paying with Bitcoin by just using your own body?

It would be more of like a microchip implanted into your left or right hand that would contain both your public and private keys to send and receive Bitcoins.

So in case you want to send or receive some BTC, you would just pass your hand over at a scanner and it would perform the desired operation. This is would make it a very convenient and easy way to transact, and carry your Bitcoins with you anytime, anywhere. However, the only thing to be considered would be the security of your private key from within your implant, to protect your funds from theft.

Nevertheless, I want to know your opinion about this, since it would be pretty cool to have such a system to help spread mass adoption of the cryptocurrency.  Smiley

I don't like this idea. I don't want chip anyway in my body under my skin. First of all people adopt bitcoin because they want to be free from banks. If a have any kind of implant device in my body except this which is relevant with my health like as  a pacemaker I would be free from banks but slave of the bitcoins.
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December 23, 2016, 04:09:55 AM
#64
Hell there is that drug they use in south america when they blow it in your face and you lose free will, they usually take you to an atm and say go withdrawal all your money and hand it to us and it usually works or even you help them move the shit out of your home into their vans.

doesnt quite work like that but im guessing you have been watching a tv show that mentions it, possibly about conmen, gypsies and psychics
No I watched a documentary about it, actually this one : https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/worlds-scariest-drug-colombian-devil39s-breath-part-1/55ef5be749b3d5591cf227c4

I am sure it isn't 100% but point is they could probably get you to tell your password to any crypto wallet with the stuff.

put it this way
if they have to ask a street busker who has to play a bamboo flute to get enough pocket change to feed himself. he doesnt really know himself how it works, otherwise he would be rich. as for the story of the doorman saying the tenant helped thieves carry his possessions to the thieves car.. im more inclined to say the door man drugged the tenant and called his mates round to raid the apartment while the tenant was passed out. telling a little fib the next day to counteract his own involvement.

it doesnt make you lucid/articulate and able to function normally minus freewill, it is a roofie/super drunk drug. it makes you passive and not fight back. like being stoned and just wanting to chillout/relax/sleep. not become a robotic mind controlled zombie.

the reason its used is that unlike a roofie that requires you to get acquainted enough with a person to hand them a drink, you can blow it in their face just passing by, and within a minute they are drowzy and drunk

even when drunk via alcohol. i could easily say "hey mate we got a taxi home but the driver needs to be paid. whats your debit card number." allowing the drunk person to, while inebriated type in their number. because even when drunk that seems rational/normal thing if you see yourself in a taxi.. ofcourse the person sitting with you sees what buttons you press to later take your card once the taxi has drove off

this doesnt mean loss of free-will while remaining coherently/lucidly. its just being so drunk your easily sold on something that sounds rational.
however if i said to a drunk person you need to empty your bank account or carry your tv down the stairs to my car. thats a different story, most drunks would laugh and say "f-u i just wanna sleep" and then leave the thief to carry it themselves.

as for telling your password to a crypto wallet.. if the password is short enough for an inebriated drunk to spell it out.. then the entropy is not that huge anyway.



but this is why i still think wallets need to lock privkeys to something tamper proof and use public keys and signatures as the only publicly transmitted info.

EG BitID as the 2FA for services where the service shows a unique message and you reply with signature of that message that can be verified to a public key registered to you.

retailers see your public key and give your hardware wallet all the unspents of it. and your hardware wallet signs a tx, to only send the signed tx back to the retailer. thus the hardware wallet doesnt need an internet connection or desktop client with addons to act as a middleman
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December 23, 2016, 03:48:32 AM
#63
Hell there is that drug they use in south america when they blow it in your face and you lose free will, they usually take you to an atm and say go withdrawal all your money and hand it to us and it usually works or even you help them move the shit out of your home into their vans.

doesnt quite work like that but im guessing you have been watching a tv show that mentions it, possibly about conmen, gypsies and psychics
No I watched a documentary about it, actually this one : https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/worlds-scariest-drug-colombian-devil39s-breath-part-1/55ef5be749b3d5591cf227c4

I am sure it isn't 100% but point is they could probably get you to tell your password to any crypto wallet with the stuff.

Wow, that stuff would work great for divorce. Instead of paying alimony you just blow some powder in your ex-wife's face and tell her to jump off a bridge. LOL 
legendary
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December 23, 2016, 03:21:31 AM
#62
Why do you need to put a stupid chip into your arm to do that, if you can simply insert it into a piece of jewelry or better yet, just use tap-and-go credit cards. The people doing this, just wants to be controversial and are desperate for attention. It reminds me about the story of the NASA spending millions on developing a pen that would write in zero-gravity. The Russians spent nothing on this, and simply used a pencil.  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Do not try to re-invent the wheel, we use 100's of other methods and it is just as convenient and safe as a chip in the arm. < overkill >

 
You know that pen thing is a myth right? Neither would use pencil due to graphite getting in the air, Bic created a pen for them for free, the Russians used it as well.

I do agree with you, a wristband would be much simpler.

You did pick up, that I used the word, "story" Right? The real facts are even more redicilous, " Originally, NASA astronauts, like the Soviet cosmonauts, used pencils, according to NASA historians. In fact, NASA ordered 34 mechanical pencils from Houston's Tycam Engineering Manufacturing, Inc., in 1965. They paid $4,382.50 or $128.89 per pencil. When these prices became public, there was an outcry and NASA scrambled to find something cheaper for the astronauts to use."

Source : https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-nasa-spen/

The point I am trying to make, still stands : Implanting a foreign substance into your body to pay for goods and services are just stupid, and a over engineered idea that are easily solved by
much less radical payment options. I still think these people are just doing it, because it is regarded by many as a Taboo. < Religious or Social >  


I kind of like the idea. Think of how easy it would be going to a pool bar and not having to take your wallet with you or walking to the beach and not having to worry about your wallet on the beach while you play in the water. I lost a wallet at the beach once. I used to walk to North Beach in SF and afterwards would go to the beach chalet brewery across the street to have a few beers. I was way out in the water one time and looked back to see some guy stealing all my stuff. Canceling all your cards is a bitch. An implant would have solved that problem.

How do you get to the beach? Car/bike, just lock it up in the vehicle you used to get to the beach. You can also just buy a swimsuit and get this sown into the clothing. Why do you have to get implants? I can already see the marketting campaign for this, "Never lose your wallet again, just hide it inside your body" ^hmmmm^ The thieves will quickly catch on to this, and they will CUT you after they have scanned you, to get to your wallet. No thank, leave this to the attention seekers. ^LoL^

As I said, there are many other ways to do this that would not require you to cut into your flesh and risk infections and rejection.   

I walk to the beach. I already said that. If someone wants your money they will figure out how to get it.


Hell there is that drug they use in south america when they blow it in your face and you lose free will, they usually take you to an atm and say go withdrawal all your money and hand it to us and it usually works or even you help them move the shit out of your home into their vans.
This is what im telling about earlier on which the risk of being stolen or robbed by some people is still there and as you mentioned they could easily lure you out to give all your bitcoin with the possible ways that will work like what you said on blowing a drug or any other like robbed you out with the use of other harmful things.
legendary
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December 23, 2016, 02:55:10 AM
#61
Hell there is that drug they use in south america when they blow it in your face and you lose free will, they usually take you to an atm and say go withdrawal all your money and hand it to us and it usually works or even you help them move the shit out of your home into their vans.

doesnt quite work like that but im guessing you have been watching a tv show that mentions it, possibly about conmen, gypsies and psychics
legendary
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December 22, 2016, 01:00:33 PM
#60
Why do you need to put a stupid chip into your arm to do that, if you can simply insert it into a piece of jewelry or better yet, just use tap-and-go credit cards. The people doing this, just wants to be controversial and are desperate for attention. It reminds me about the story of the NASA spending millions on developing a pen that would write in zero-gravity. The Russians spent nothing on this, and simply used a pencil.  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Do not try to re-invent the wheel, we use 100's of other methods and it is just as convenient and safe as a chip in the arm. < overkill >

 
You know that pen thing is a myth right? Neither would use pencil due to graphite getting in the air, Bic created a pen for them for free, the Russians used it as well.

I do agree with you, a wristband would be much simpler.

You did pick up, that I used the word, "story" Right? The real facts are even more redicilous, " Originally, NASA astronauts, like the Soviet cosmonauts, used pencils, according to NASA historians. In fact, NASA ordered 34 mechanical pencils from Houston's Tycam Engineering Manufacturing, Inc., in 1965. They paid $4,382.50 or $128.89 per pencil. When these prices became public, there was an outcry and NASA scrambled to find something cheaper for the astronauts to use."

Source : https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-nasa-spen/

The point I am trying to make, still stands : Implanting a foreign substance into your body to pay for goods and services are just stupid, and a over engineered idea that are easily solved by
much less radical payment options. I still think these people are just doing it, because it is regarded by many as a Taboo. < Religious or Social >  


I kind of like the idea. Think of how easy it would be going to a pool bar and not having to take your wallet with you or walking to the beach and not having to worry about your wallet on the beach while you play in the water. I lost a wallet at the beach once. I used to walk to North Beach in SF and afterwards would go to the beach chalet brewery across the street to have a few beers. I was way out in the water one time and looked back to see some guy stealing all my stuff. Canceling all your cards is a bitch. An implant would have solved that problem.

How do you get to the beach? Car/bike, just lock it up in the vehicle you used to get to the beach. You can also just buy a swimsuit and get this sown into the clothing. Why do you have to get implants? I can already see the marketting campaign for this, "Never lose your wallet again, just hide it inside your body" ^hmmmm^ The thieves will quickly catch on to this, and they will CUT you after they have scanned you, to get to your wallet. No thank, leave this to the attention seekers. ^LoL^

As I said, there are many other ways to do this that would not require you to cut into your flesh and risk infections and rejection.   

I walk to the beach. I already said that. If someone wants your money they will figure out how to get it.

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December 22, 2016, 12:28:32 PM
#59
I don't think that's a very good idea, because having a chip that contains most of your bitcoin keys implemented into your body opens up a lot of possibility for hacks and money theft , they can walk past you scan your hand and then walk away since you said all the you have to do is pass it over a scanner and the money is paid 
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December 22, 2016, 11:23:34 AM
#58
I'm not sure if this has ever been implemented yet, but can you imagine a way of paying with Bitcoin by just using your own body?

It would be more of like a microchip implanted into your left or right hand that would contain both your public and private keys to send and receive Bitcoins.

So in case you want to send or receive some BTC, you would just pass your hand over at a scanner and it would perform the desired operation. This is would make it a very convenient and easy way to transact, and carry your Bitcoins with you anytime, anywhere. However, the only thing to be considered would be the security of your private key from within your implant, to protect your funds from theft.

Nevertheless, I want to know your opinion about this, since it would be pretty cool to have such a system to help spread mass adoption of the cryptocurrency.  Smiley

I think that's probably a gradual implementation of the mark of the beast. I just read revelation 13:11-14:1-20 and I hope you're not in any way suggesting this so that a (world super power) may arise to use against the saints.
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December 22, 2016, 11:17:07 AM
#57
I'm not sure if this has ever been implemented yet, but can you imagine a way of paying with Bitcoin by just using your own body?
That's basically 6th Sense technology by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrtANPtnhyg .

It would be more of like a microchip implanted into your left or right hand that would contain both your public and private keys to send and receive Bitcoins.
When you say a chip,it sounds vague and makes it less technical to support your concept.A microprocessor with memory registers makes sense.

So in case you want to send or receive some BTC, you would just pass your hand over at a scanner and it would perform the desired operation. This is would make it a very convenient and easy way to transact, and carry your Bitcoins with you anytime, anywhere. However, the only thing to be considered would be the security of your private key from within your implant, to protect your funds from theft.
Does that mean I will live with a constant fear of getting my ears sliced ? Not sure if I'm okay with it.How do you send bitcoins ? Where do you type the amount ? How does your chip connect to the internet everywhere you go ?

A lot of complications is all I see.
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December 22, 2016, 11:13:29 AM
#56
What happens when your private key is compromised? Do you have to cut it out of your body?

Same goes for these weirdos who get bitcoin address tattoos.addresses ain't designed to last.
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December 22, 2016, 10:48:24 AM
#55
given the impact of bitcoin, I guess have a bad effect and impact both. it makes a lot of transactions fast on the internet, in addition, very many people who can be independent when bitcoin know, in fact, many unemployed who now has his own business. but, it also had a devastating impact, because it makes the traffic of illegal transactions increased.
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December 22, 2016, 09:31:09 AM
#54
I'm not sure if this has ever been implemented yet, but can you imagine a way of paying with Bitcoin by just using your own body?

It would be more of like a microchip implanted into your left or right hand that would contain both your public and private keys to send and receive Bitcoins.

So in case you want to send or receive some BTC, you would just pass your hand over at a scanner and it would perform the desired operation. This is would make it a very convenient and easy way to transact, and carry your Bitcoins with you anytime, anywhere. However, the only thing to be considered would be the security of your private key from within your implant, to protect your funds from theft.

Nevertheless, I want to know your opinion about this, since it would be pretty cool to have such a system to help spread mass adoption of the cryptocurrency.  Smiley
Im thinking of this kind of stuff too on which we could really easily make transactions with bitcoin with just the use of our own body (Ex. Arms) but as you said the security would surely increase but the risk of being robbed out is still there specially when someone knows that you are bringing your own bitcoin wallet.Someone could easily take you down and steal all the bitcoins you have.
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December 22, 2016, 09:26:27 AM
#53

No, it wouldn't. Sounds a lot like Revelation, referring to the Anti-Christ's mark.

"And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name"

“If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark…the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God…”

A payment chip in your right hand or forehead is not the mark of the Anti-Christ if the currency behind it is optional and not something that you are forced to use. Since when did any government or anybody tried to force you to use Bitcoin?
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December 22, 2016, 09:12:27 AM
#52
Now imagine if someone rich thought it would be a brilliant idea to store their millions in a microchip inserted into say, their hand.

Cue machete wielding man slashing off hand to attempt a brute force crack.
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December 22, 2016, 04:29:58 AM
#51
Why do you need to put a stupid chip into your arm to do that, if you can simply insert it into a piece of jewelry or better yet, just use tap-and-go credit cards. The people doing this, just wants to be controversial and are desperate for attention. It reminds me about the story of the NASA spending millions on developing a pen that would write in zero-gravity. The Russians spent nothing on this, and simply used a pencil.  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Do not try to re-invent the wheel, we use 100's of other methods and it is just as convenient and safe as a chip in the arm. < overkill >

 
You know that pen thing is a myth right? Neither would use pencil due to graphite getting in the air, Bic created a pen for them for free, the Russians used it as well.

I do agree with you, a wristband would be much simpler.

You did pick up, that I used the word, "story" Right? The real facts are even more redicilous, " Originally, NASA astronauts, like the Soviet cosmonauts, used pencils, according to NASA historians. In fact, NASA ordered 34 mechanical pencils from Houston's Tycam Engineering Manufacturing, Inc., in 1965. They paid $4,382.50 or $128.89 per pencil. When these prices became public, there was an outcry and NASA scrambled to find something cheaper for the astronauts to use."

Source : https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-nasa-spen/

The point I am trying to make, still stands : Implanting a foreign substance into your body to pay for goods and services are just stupid, and a over engineered idea that are easily solved by
much less radical payment options. I still think these people are just doing it, because it is regarded by many as a Taboo. < Religious or Social >  


I kind of like the idea. Think of how easy it would be going to a pool bar and not having to take your wallet with you or walking to the beach and not having to worry about your wallet on the beach while you play in the water. I lost a wallet at the beach once. I used to walk to North Beach in SF and afterwards would go to the beach chalet brewery across the street to have a few beers. I was way out in the water one time and looked back to see some guy stealing all my stuff. Canceling all your cards is a bitch. An implant would have solved that problem.

How do you get to the beach? Car/bike, just lock it up in the vehicle you used to get to the beach. You can also just buy a swimsuit and get this sown into the clothing. Why do you have to get implants? I can already see the marketting campaign for this, "Never lose your wallet again, just hide it inside your body" ^hmmmm^ The thieves will quickly catch on to this, and they will CUT you after they have scanned you, to get to your wallet. No thank, leave this to the attention seekers. ^LoL^

As I said, there are many other ways to do this that would not require you to cut into your flesh and risk infections and rejection.   
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December 22, 2016, 02:36:06 AM
#50
I'm not agree with this idea. Everything that was implanted to our body is very risky in our health and maybe one of the 'cause of our death. What is the use of our brains if we couldn't invent the software or even hardware for the security of our bitcoins. That was a good idea than implanting bitcoins.
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December 21, 2016, 09:37:34 PM
#49
I can't imagine it happening, for me it's disgusting to insert foreign objects into the body like cyborg Cheesy and it may not be good for the body. although for the protection of bitcoin i guess it's not better to do
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