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December 20, 2016, 10:35:30 PM
#28
I'm not sure if this has ever been implemented yet, but can you imagine a way of paying with Bitcoin by just using your own body?

It would be more of like a microchip implanted into your left or right hand that would contain both your public and private keys to send and receive Bitcoins.

So in case you want to send or receive some BTC, you would just pass your hand over at a scanner and it would perform the desired operation. This is would make it a very convenient and easy way to transact, and carry your Bitcoins with you anytime, anywhere. However, the only thing to be considered would be the security of your private key from within your implant, to protect your funds from theft.

Nevertheless, I want to know your opinion about this, since it would be pretty cool to have such a system to help spread mass adoption of the cryptocurrency.  Smiley
Thats good idea but too hard to implement and there's so many risks with that, first your health if this chip can be good to person's body, and to become safe, once bad people knows that you handle/own lots bitcoin in your body/hand well you're in danger and be chased with this bad guys.

You are right it is very risky when it comes to health and also in danger if someone will know that you do have a chip that you are holding a big amount of bitcoin thats it is risky. When it comes to healt it very risky also because we dont know if your body will accept the chip or not if your body will not accept it then it is very dangerous
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December 20, 2016, 10:29:04 PM
#27
I dont want and I dont agree using bitcoin digital devices to use bitcoin. First since it sounds like a demonic plan to control humanity in the end of times and many will protest against especially Christians. Second, if the government will allow it the criminals and the robbers will simply cut off your arms so they can access your bitcoins, I dont want to lose my arms that way. So i prefer bitcoin using app devices such as cp which we can install security features even if snatched they cannot easily access your bitcoins and also there will be no protest from the masses.
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December 20, 2016, 08:49:24 PM
#26
Nevertheless, I want to know your opinion about this, since it would be pretty cool to have such a system to help spread mass adoption of the cryptocurrency.  Smiley

No, it wouldn't. Sounds a lot like Revelation, referring to the Anti-Christ's mark.

"And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name"

“If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark…the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God…”

Thanks. I've been waiting for some christian fear monger to post that.

When you resort to name calling or insults instead of discourse, you lose my respect.


Oh please don't say that. I've been waiting all my life to build up respect with you. Damn, now I've blown it. LOL
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December 20, 2016, 07:21:06 PM
#25
I'm not sure what to think about it. This idea that I carry some chip in my body reminds me on some kind of surveillance and some science fiction movies. Probably it would be very practical and secure but it doesn't sound attractive to me at all. On.the other hand there are no guarantee that this chip couldn't be used for some wrong purpose. I'm not against inovations, on the contrary, but I wouldn't do this.
That's exactly what it reminds me of, too, and it's scary where the world is headed with technology.  The future is upon us, man.  We could be using each DNA sequence on each arm of a chromosome as a private key or some other thing.  Pharmacogenetics is becoming real.  Our consciousness is going to be uploaded to a cloud someday, and that's going to give us all immortality.  And hey, bitcoin is at $800.  Wooo hooo!!
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December 20, 2016, 07:11:18 PM
#24
Guys, do yourselves a favor and come to the next Hackers Congress (HCPP17) in Paralelni Polis. This is not an advertisement, it is just a good advice on how to broaden your horizons in terms of what is possible with Bitcoin. E.g., we accept only bitcoin, no fiat. There are already 30 people who come to us regularly and do payments with an NFC implant. You will be able to meet some of them at the congress and talk to them personally. I myself use it on a daily basis.

Here is my video demonstrating the payments - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdauofdGFBM

This thread is full of misconceptions and it would take too long to explain in detail. I will try to keep it short and you can come meet me in person to get more details.

- the health risks are very low, especially once it heals
- the security is ok for pocket money
- signing transactions inside the chip would protect you from someone stealing your private key, but you still have to trust the POS
- you can change the private key as often as you want, you also do not have to keep more btc on it than for a few coffees
- no, the god will not be angry, there is no beast, devil, or whatever, you will not go to hell for having a "glass splinter" under your skin
- surveillance with an NFC chip is a stupid idea, you have your phone for that
- in case it is not clear: there is no GPS in the chip, not even a battery
- the implant can not control you, detect what you eat, etc. -- it does not interact with your body
- you can go on airplane with the implant, the airport security check does not even detect it
- removing the implant is even easier than getting it in
- taxation is theft
legendary
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December 20, 2016, 05:55:43 PM
#23
I would never want something like that... Somebody would have control over everything about you. Microchips are usually able to take a lot of information, like the food intake or so. Implanting such things means control. There chips are connected to GPS.. What happens if it brakes, or what happens if it needs a repair? There are many things because of which I do not want to accept this idea.
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December 20, 2016, 05:39:03 PM
#22
I can imagine payment for staff and other things by using only our bodies. The topic of such kind of chips showed in fantastic movies from several years ago. And I think this fantastic will come true one day. I don't even wish to think what danger it may follow, bit it's humans nature to afraid of something new.
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December 20, 2016, 05:24:12 PM
#21
I'm not sure if this has ever been implemented yet, but can you imagine a way of paying with Bitcoin by just using your own body?

It would be more of like a microchip implanted into your left or right hand that would contain both your public and private keys to send and receive Bitcoins.

So in case you want to send or receive some BTC, you would just pass your hand over at a scanner and it would perform the desired operation. This is would make it a very convenient and easy way to transact, and carry your Bitcoins with you anytime, anywhere. However, the only thing to be considered would be the security of your private key from within your implant, to protect your funds from theft.

Nevertheless, I want to know your opinion about this, since it would be pretty cool to have such a system to help spread mass adoption of the cryptocurrency.  Smiley
Thats good idea but too hard to implement and there's so many risks with that, first your health if this chip can be good to person's body, and to become safe, once bad people knows that you handle/own lots bitcoin in your body/hand well you're in danger and be chased with this bad guys.
legendary
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December 20, 2016, 01:35:57 PM
#20
Nevertheless, I want to know your opinion about this, since it would be pretty cool to have such a system to help spread mass adoption of the cryptocurrency.  Smiley

No, it wouldn't. Sounds a lot like Revelation, referring to the Anti-Christ's mark.

"And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name"

“If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark…the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God…”

Thanks. I've been waiting for some christian fear monger to post that.

When you resort to name calling or insults instead of discourse, you lose my respect.

No, it wouldn't. Sounds a lot like Revelation, referring to the Anti-Christ's mark.

"And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name"

“If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark…the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God…”

No problem.  We'll only install it in the left hand.

Simple solution.

Haha love ya man, sounds great to me  Wink
legendary
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December 20, 2016, 01:26:28 PM
#19
No, it wouldn't. Sounds a lot like Revelation, referring to the Anti-Christ's mark.

"And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name"

“If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark…the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God…”

No problem.  We'll only install it in the left hand.  Then we can avoid an early second coming and we can all do business without fearing "the wine of the wrath of God".

Simple solution.
legendary
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December 20, 2016, 01:10:32 PM
#18
NFC/RFID use residual energy to send out a predefined message.

if someone can work out the actual microvolts needed to receive message(a), sign it and send message(b) and develop a small/safe nfc/rfid that can do some basic 'processing' such as signing a message using edcsa keypair or bitcoin keypair. then they can be in for alot of potential as a possible new industry

until then ... manually updating the stored 'message' daily/weekly/random time is the only solution. though better than biometric data (isues with papercuts/dirt ruin fingerprints, cateracts retinal scarring(diabetes) ruin retina scans), its still better to have a identifier that can change per day/use.
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December 20, 2016, 12:54:23 PM
#16

interesting, i didn't know that exist already, it would be cool if it was possible to scan the eye to do a transaction, but i guess it would be more dangerous, also if a guy like him will carry his phone anyway, i see that it's better to just use that to pay

You're thinking is on the right path. We're not far away from that kind of system anyway. We know paper money is not long for this world. There are a couple of obscure companies researching biometric scans (such as fingerprints and retinal scans) as a method of debit card replacement but there are flaws in implementation left to overcome. The expense of the very sophisticated equipment is a big one. It's likely the only countries that could easily implement something like that are small ones with a strong technological infrastructure. They've even looked at the possibility of a blood pressure and pulse detection system to determine if the body part being used for payment is on a living person and that person is not under duress (to eliminate theft).
legendary
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December 20, 2016, 12:49:08 PM
#15
This idea is fitted at malls, replacing the cards, having a microchip in your hand will be convinient cause you don't have to carry your cards. The main problem here is not about your private key but the fact that why would someone have to implant a chip in his hand for that purpose, Carrying a card or two is not really a problem. The project is nice but I don't see any advantages of this that is worth it enough for people to have their hand implanted with a chip. Problem number two is its health risks. If there is, then it will not be worth

imagine it. having to have an implant to get a job.. then sacked 3 months later because its a mundane stupid 'mall cop' job. now you have to have surgury to get the chip out.

yea easy to inject in. but getting out.. um not so easy and no employer would pay a sacked employee for hospital treatment, so not really a positive thing in places like malls that see a high turnover rate of staff.

but for anyone thinking of the oppertunities/possibilities.. stick with nfc stickers that attach above the skin or on things.. not under the skin
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December 20, 2016, 12:47:37 PM
#14
Such advancements were not needed. Because one in ten uses such methods for easy accessing. This looks like a step ahead than the ongoing development. The coming generation might give preference to these kind of fantasy based usage of bitcoin and other digital currency with the hand acting as a wallet for all needs.
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December 20, 2016, 12:45:35 PM
#13
The idea is good, but I would not like to have an implant in my body to be able to receive and send my bitcoins. This implant should cause health issue, or in the case that you take the airplane, do you need to change the mode Wink

So the next generation of wallet will be a human wallet in the future!

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December 20, 2016, 12:45:09 PM
#12

interesting, i didn't know that exist already, it would be cool if it was possible to scan the eye to do a transaction, but i guess it would be more dangerous, also if a guy like him will carry his phone anyway, i see that it's better to just use that to pay
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December 20, 2016, 12:45:04 PM
#11
Nevertheless, I want to know your opinion about this, since it would be pretty cool to have such a system to help spread mass adoption of the cryptocurrency.  Smiley

No, it wouldn't. Sounds a lot like Revelation, referring to the Anti-Christ's mark.

"And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name"

“If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark…the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God…”

Thanks. I've been waiting for some christian fear monger to post that.
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December 20, 2016, 12:36:04 PM
#10
This idea is fitted at malls, replacing the cards, having a microchip in your hand will be convinient cause you don't have to carry your cards. The main problem here is not about your private key but the fact that why would someone have to implant a chip in his hand for that purpose, Carrying a card or two is not really a problem. The project is nice but I don't see any advantages of this that is worth it enough for people to have their hand implanted with a chip. Problem number two is its health risks. If there is, then it will not be worth
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December 20, 2016, 12:35:32 PM
#9
I'm not sure what to think about it. This idea that I carry some chip in my body reminds me on some kind of surveillance and some science fiction movies. Probably it would be very practical and secure but it doesn't sound attractive to me at all. On.the other hand there are no guarantee that this chip couldn't be used for some wrong purpose. I'm not against inovations, on the contrary, but I wouldn't do this.
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