We should amass bitcoins and buy an island.. make it a country and have it's currency BTC. That is all.
We should amass bitcoins and make the land we live on already less like a country. And take a holiday on the said island once in a while.
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We should amass bitcoins and make the land we live on already less like a country. And take a holiday on the said island once in a while.
It is much easier to talk than actually do something.
Also, people who don't have the money might just be "dreaming".
I know that if I had more money I'd seriously consider using some of it for a project like this. Until then I'll keep on dreaming Also, people who don't have the money might just be "dreaming".
I have been down this road before. Much further than just chatting about ideas online.
As part of the Free State Project a group of us were going to work on buying land for a "free town" type of project. Discussion went on for months. We weighed different parts of the state with graphs and voting numbers and laws and every type of analysis we could come up with.
Finally we determined that if 50 of us put in $10k each we would have enough to buy a large lot of land that could be divided between us with the goal of around 5-10 acres each. So we had one guy who lived in the state who's dad did that type of real estate business himself who was just getting into starting his own business start working on setting things up for us. He set up a corporation and started setting out to find land. He had a contract written up and asked for people to start submitting their checks, with a signed contract from him and us.
It ended up with just 2 of us (me and another couple) sending him $10k. Meanwhile he's driving all over the state taking pictures and talking to land owners, sending us everything we want, but nobody else ponied up any cash. He ended up giving the money back, losing out on time and money.
It ended up that everyone was all talk with no ability to actually invest in such an idea. The discussions died off and that was the end of it.
That is why I started working on BitPools. Where you can keep your bitcoins in your wallet but can pledge your money toward such a goal. If enough people pledge to the point that it is a viable possibility it is only then that people will start working on actual proposals. Then people can vote with their bitcoin on whichever idea they like best and the project gets funded.
As part of the Free State Project a group of us were going to work on buying land for a "free town" type of project. Discussion went on for months. We weighed different parts of the state with graphs and voting numbers and laws and every type of analysis we could come up with.
Finally we determined that if 50 of us put in $10k each we would have enough to buy a large lot of land that could be divided between us with the goal of around 5-10 acres each. So we had one guy who lived in the state who's dad did that type of real estate business himself who was just getting into starting his own business start working on setting things up for us. He set up a corporation and started setting out to find land. He had a contract written up and asked for people to start submitting their checks, with a signed contract from him and us.
It ended up with just 2 of us (me and another couple) sending him $10k. Meanwhile he's driving all over the state taking pictures and talking to land owners, sending us everything we want, but nobody else ponied up any cash. He ended up giving the money back, losing out on time and money.
It ended up that everyone was all talk with no ability to actually invest in such an idea. The discussions died off and that was the end of it.
That is why I started working on BitPools. Where you can keep your bitcoins in your wallet but can pledge your money toward such a goal. If enough people pledge to the point that it is a viable possibility it is only then that people will start working on actual proposals. Then people can vote with their bitcoin on whichever idea they like best and the project gets funded.
Well I know that making this idea come true is not too easy and finding people who will really pay for this will be hard.
I must say, I haven't got even 100$ in that moment, so I know that all those are dreams for me - but my dreams sometimes come true
So I believe that this is possible - just more people need to join this idea.
It is much easier to talk than actually do something.
Also, people who don't have the money might just be "dreaming".
Also, people who don't have the money might just be "dreaming".
I have been down this road before. Much further than just chatting about ideas online.
As part of the Free State Project a group of us were going to work on buying land for a "free town" type of project. Discussion went on for months. We weighed different parts of the state with graphs and voting numbers and laws and every type of analysis we could come up with.
Finally we determined that if 50 of us put in $10k each we would have enough to buy a large lot of land that could be divided between us with the goal of around 5-10 acres each. So we had one guy who lived in the state who's dad did that type of real estate business himself who was just getting into starting his own business start working on setting things up for us. He set up a corporation and started setting out to find land. He had a contract written up and asked for people to start submitting their checks, with a signed contract from him and us.
It ended up with just 2 of us (me and another couple) sending him $10k. Meanwhile he's driving all over the state taking pictures and talking to land owners, sending us everything we want, but nobody else ponied up any cash. He ended up giving the money back, losing out on time and money.
It ended up that everyone was all talk with no ability to actually invest in such an idea. The discussions died off and that was the end of it.
That is why I started working on BitPools. Where you can keep your bitcoins in your wallet but can pledge your money toward such a goal. If enough people pledge to the point that it is a viable possibility it is only then that people will start working on actual proposals. Then people can vote with their bitcoin on whichever idea they like best and the project gets funded.
As part of the Free State Project a group of us were going to work on buying land for a "free town" type of project. Discussion went on for months. We weighed different parts of the state with graphs and voting numbers and laws and every type of analysis we could come up with.
Finally we determined that if 50 of us put in $10k each we would have enough to buy a large lot of land that could be divided between us with the goal of around 5-10 acres each. So we had one guy who lived in the state who's dad did that type of real estate business himself who was just getting into starting his own business start working on setting things up for us. He set up a corporation and started setting out to find land. He had a contract written up and asked for people to start submitting their checks, with a signed contract from him and us.
It ended up with just 2 of us (me and another couple) sending him $10k. Meanwhile he's driving all over the state taking pictures and talking to land owners, sending us everything we want, but nobody else ponied up any cash. He ended up giving the money back, losing out on time and money.
It ended up that everyone was all talk with no ability to actually invest in such an idea. The discussions died off and that was the end of it.
That is why I started working on BitPools. Where you can keep your bitcoins in your wallet but can pledge your money toward such a goal. If enough people pledge to the point that it is a viable possibility it is only then that people will start working on actual proposals. Then people can vote with their bitcoin on whichever idea they like best and the project gets funded.
This great nation could easily adopt BTC and that nation is Sealand
I believe that their history and very existence aligns well with BTC.
We need to talk to Prince Michael Bates about this.
Sealand is a joke. If there is any entity likely to walk away with a nation's bitcoin treasury it is the current "Sealand government".I believe that their history and very existence aligns well with BTC.
We need to talk to Prince Michael Bates about this.
Turns out that ability to board and maintain ownership of a gun emplacement in the sea does not correlate well with running a successful business, or general mental stability.
https://www.defcon.org/images/defcon-11/dc-11-presentations/dc-11-Lackey/dc11-havenco.pdf
Why do you have to go and ruin a perfectly good island by creating a government there?
well maybe not a gov like we know it - but we need some members to keep eye on everything
make every resident accountable. they all do weekly voting on certain island agenda's.
after all it wold be an island of a small population, not a 70 million population country that needs a small committee to be the voice/representation of the many to keep debates controllable and civil.
and all bitcoiners would be smart enough to vote using a blockchain.
Yeah well. This sounds good
What would be a population you think?
How many Bitcoin users are here with us? @Bitcointalk we have ~302k registered users, perhaps some of them are no longer visiting Bitcointalk, but ~302k.
+ those who haven't yet registered @Bitcoin talk - maybe a 1 million?
It's like my home city population
it is not that small we will have time indeed to keep everything in our hands Our only work will be mining
and taking care of the island and other people.We would not need a government, digital freedom and privacy would be respected and it would be the digital capital of the world. Direct-democratic of course.
Well perhaps not all of the users will be happy to change their place of living so few thousands maybe will be enough ...
Why do you have to go and ruin a perfectly good island by creating a government there?
well maybe not a gov like we know it - but we need some members to keep eye on everything
make every resident accountable. they all do weekly voting on certain island agenda's.
after all it wold be an island of a small population, not a 70 million population country that needs a small committee to be the voice/representation of the many to keep debates controllable and civil.
and all bitcoiners would be smart enough to vote using a blockchain.
Yeah well. This sounds good
What would be a population you think?
How many Bitcoin users are here with us? @Bitcointalk we have ~302k registered users, perhaps some of them are no longer visiting Bitcointalk, but ~302k.
+ those who haven't yet registered @Bitcoin talk - maybe a 1 million?
It's like my home city population
it is not that small we will have time indeed to keep everything in our hands Our only work will be mining
and taking care of the island and other people.We would not need a government, digital freedom and privacy would be respected and it would be the digital capital of the world. Direct-democratic of course.
We should amass bitcoins and buy an island.. make it a country and have it's currency BTC. That is all.
Which would be more likely to succeed?
- amass bitcoins and buy an island
- amass bitcoins and support a revolution of oppressed indiginous people on an island
Why do you have to go and ruin a perfectly good island by creating a government there?
well maybe not a gov like we know it - but we need some members to keep eye on everything
make every resident accountable. they all do weekly voting on certain island agenda's.
after all it wold be an island of a small population, not a 70 million population country that needs a small committee to be the voice/representation of the many to keep debates controllable and civil.
and all bitcoiners would be smart enough to vote using a blockchain.
Yeah well. This sounds good
What would be a population you think?
How many Bitcoin users are here with us? @Bitcointalk we have ~302k registered users, perhaps some of them are no longer visiting Bitcointalk, but ~302k.
+ those who haven't yet registered @Bitcoin talk - maybe a 1 million?
It's like my home city population
it is not that small we will have time indeed to keep everything in our hands Our only work will be mining
and taking care of the island and other people.Great idea! Go find a piece of land over -200 ft sea level that is not owned by a government and get back to us.
Hint: no land exists that is not controlled by a government (not even land underwater other than several miles deep hundreds of miles away from land)
However...there are some projects in the works.
For a small piece of land where bitcoin is accepted, as has been mentioned before there is:
http://galtsgulchchile.com
For a project to dock a ship in international waters outside of prosperous cities (accepting bitcoin donations):
http://blueseed.co/
For a project to create a floating platform under no government rule (eventually):
http://www.seasteading.org/floating-city-project/
Finally, when it comes to coordination...I hope to set up a Pool for those interested in such a venture when I open the BitPools site (a few weeks). Doing so does not put money into one person's hands while trying to figure out what everyone wants.
Hint: no land exists that is not controlled by a government (not even land underwater other than several miles deep hundreds of miles away from land)
However...there are some projects in the works.
For a small piece of land where bitcoin is accepted, as has been mentioned before there is:
http://galtsgulchchile.com
For a project to dock a ship in international waters outside of prosperous cities (accepting bitcoin donations):
http://blueseed.co/
For a project to create a floating platform under no government rule (eventually):
http://www.seasteading.org/floating-city-project/
Finally, when it comes to coordination...I hope to set up a Pool for those interested in such a venture when I open the BitPools site (a few weeks). Doing so does not put money into one person's hands while trying to figure out what everyone wants.
I like this floating city idea the best..
Furthermore.. I am an Electrical Technologist, I could Design, purchase and install an electrical system on an Island.. I have real life skillz.
Why do you have to go and ruin a perfectly good island by creating a government there?
well maybe not a gov like we know it - but we need some members to keep eye on everything
make every resident accountable. they all do weekly voting on certain island agenda's.
after all it wold be an island of a small population, not a 70 million population country that needs a small committee to be the voice/representation of the many to keep debates controllable and civil.
and all bitcoiners would be smart enough to vote using a blockchain.
We should amass bitcoins and buy an island.. make it a country and have it's currency BTC. That is all.
yes great Idea, lets make btc stores and jobs, [font size=20]btc mini gov.[/font] I like this idea, More Ideas, how come and live there when is ready.
Are you fucking kidding me? The meaning of government is LITERALLY "service to the people". They pay us with their service, we give them nothing. The only reason we'd ever need to give them money is for them to do a specific job for us. So say you want to lobby for a certain type of new weapon on the market so that you could ensure the politicians the new weapons are legal and safe (as in no intrinsic hazard to other people - an example of a hazard would be uranium shells which could kill everyone in the neighborhood just by sitting there and doing nothing except emit cancer causing radiation). You could pay the man to look at the bill first. But you'd just be part of a priority list and you can't ask them to get to yours first over the other bills on the priority list. A bill can take awhile to read and disrupts them from doing their other work, so i don't see why they couldn't ask YOU to pay them. Beyond that, government service is just a job. It's like keeping a homestead running. you just gotta do it... and in a taxless libertarian society you won't be required to work for the government (taxes) so you don't have to sell your crops if you don't want to. But your farm life is yours and yours alone, so your responsibility is to take care of it. Farming your own crops does not have intrinsic value other than putting food in your stomach. No one really owes you something for taking care of yourself.
In the normal sense of the word government it is a humble and fee-less service designed to HELP the people and to LISTEN to the people, as the PEOPLE are the boss, not the government. The government should have absolutely NOTHING to do with ANY currency, whether it's USD fiat, or Bitcoins.
nice idea 
but who will be a president of that new country? Max Keiser?
but who will be a president of that new country? Max Keiser?
no problem
1. find small country with financial problems
2. find whale with lotsa btc
3. bring them together
cyprus maybe? 1. find small country with financial problems
2. find whale with lotsa btc
3. bring them together
Great idea! Go find a piece of land over -200 ft sea level that is not owned by a government and get back to us.
Hint: no land exists that is not controlled by a government (not even land underwater other than several miles deep hundreds of miles away from land)
However...there are some projects in the works.
For a small piece of land where bitcoin is accepted, as has been mentioned before there is:
http://galtsgulchchile.com
For a project to dock a ship in international waters outside of prosperous cities (accepting bitcoin donations):
http://blueseed.co/
For a project to create a floating platform under no government rule (eventually):
http://www.seasteading.org/floating-city-project/
Finally, when it comes to coordination...I hope to set up a Pool for those interested in such a venture when I open the BitPools site (a few weeks). Doing so does not put money into one person's hands while trying to figure out what everyone wants.
Hint: no land exists that is not controlled by a government (not even land underwater other than several miles deep hundreds of miles away from land)
However...there are some projects in the works.
For a small piece of land where bitcoin is accepted, as has been mentioned before there is:
http://galtsgulchchile.com
For a project to dock a ship in international waters outside of prosperous cities (accepting bitcoin donations):
http://blueseed.co/
For a project to create a floating platform under no government rule (eventually):
http://www.seasteading.org/floating-city-project/
Finally, when it comes to coordination...I hope to set up a Pool for those interested in such a venture when I open the BitPools site (a few weeks). Doing so does not put money into one person's hands while trying to figure out what everyone wants.
Jekyll Island? LOL
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the guys that come up with these bitcoin island idea's are usually the guys that:
1. dont have the funds themselves (usually under 3BTC to their name)
2. have never bought real estate or land in their life
3. have no development skills to get water, electric, internet set up n sch an island
4. will 99.999% most propably walk away with other peoples money.
instead of having some anonymous guy ask for you to "donate" to him for an island project. how about getting a island / land selling agent to accept bitcoin (a proper legal estate agent) and then people can by into that. or get richard branson to offer vacations on his island for bitcoin, with the intent(signed contract) he uses the funds to expand his island or buys a second island for community use.
only noobs would donate to a random guy on a forum that had a brainfart, but has no real experience in such a matter, nor the collateral to back up their idea
1. dont have the funds themselves (usually under 3BTC to their name)
2. have never bought real estate or land in their life
3. have no development skills to get water, electric, internet set up n sch an island
4. will 99.999% most propably walk away with other peoples money.
instead of having some anonymous guy ask for you to "donate" to him for an island project. how about getting a island / land selling agent to accept bitcoin (a proper legal estate agent) and then people can by into that. or get richard branson to offer vacations on his island for bitcoin, with the intent(signed contract) he uses the funds to expand his island or buys a second island for community use.
only noobs would donate to a random guy on a forum that had a brainfart, but has no real experience in such a matter, nor the collateral to back up their idea
Doesn't even need to be an island.
They take BTC here now:
http://galtsgulchchile.com
or help the lobbying to get New Hampshire. USA, to be more free from corporate banking laws and be more bitcoin friendly
or help Hull, UK to use a blockchain for local transactions instead of bank accounts owned by international corporations.
no point making an island to throw everyone onto. its better to change the towns/states to be bitcoin friendly.
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the guys that come up with these bitcoin island idea's are usually the guys that:
1. dont have the funds themselves (usually under 3BTC to their name)
2. have never bought real estate or land in their life
3. have no development skills to get water, electric, internet set up on such an island
4. will 99.999% most propably walk away with other peoples money.
instead of having some anonymous guy ask for you to "donate" to him for an island project. how about getting a island / land selling agent to accept bitcoin (a proper legal estate agent) and then people can by into that. or get richard branson to offer vacations on his island for bitcoin, with the intent(signed contract) he uses the funds to expand his island or buys a second island for community use.
only noobs would donate to a random guy on a forum that had a brainfart, but has no real experience in such a matter, nor the collateral to back up their idea
1. dont have the funds themselves (usually under 3BTC to their name)
2. have never bought real estate or land in their life
3. have no development skills to get water, electric, internet set up on such an island
4. will 99.999% most propably walk away with other peoples money.
instead of having some anonymous guy ask for you to "donate" to him for an island project. how about getting a island / land selling agent to accept bitcoin (a proper legal estate agent) and then people can by into that. or get richard branson to offer vacations on his island for bitcoin, with the intent(signed contract) he uses the funds to expand his island or buys a second island for community use.
only noobs would donate to a random guy on a forum that had a brainfart, but has no real experience in such a matter, nor the collateral to back up their idea
The random guy has been chosen
Franky do you want to go buy the island ^_^
But I agree this topic comes up a lot at least Finshaggy has a business plan for his bitcointown and a 16 set video series lol.
Great idea, perhaps we can find inspiration from Atlas Shrugged's capitalist utopia?
Why do you have to go and ruin a perfectly good island by creating a government there?
Thank you.
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/pdf_books/civildisobedience.pdf
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