Topic: Bitcoin Island - page 5. (Read 9754 times)

Nakamoto Cookie say:

He who is not industrious enough to organize a local promotional campaign to get merchants on board mainstream to accepting bitcoin or to even make a splash in his own backyard is clearly talking out his ass about banding together to buy an island where bitcoin is The Way...


 

Guys we are all throwing ideas here but NO actual research has been done.

Such as:
Power - probably photovoltaic farm which means we need an island in an area that has a lot of sunlight during the day cycle.
Food - The land must be suitable for plantations and having live stock - which means any island full of poisonous snakes etc, might not be suitable.
Internet - That can be covered with satellite internet, but it's expensive so BTC production must be good.
Water supply - We need to have drinkable water.
Health care - Shit happens you know....
Protection - From outsiders, pirates, thieves, the gov, etc.

and the list goes on.....

Right now we have an idea but it is not properly researched.

Well is not really only about the place and the price. It is more about people  who will do something to make it real.
Would all of us just leave their jobs houses and travel to bitcoin island?

I've got another suggestion: http://www.privateislandsonline.com/islands/piaabuu-islands
The price is low and it's quite big (for that price anyway). Any rich bitcoiner willing to fund this?

This one is perfect maybe a little too big ... but at least everyone will have enought space to live

Skorpios would be a good choice but I doubt it's for sale.
Bill Gates has shown interest to buy it but it wasn't for sale.

Nooo this is not a same with build a BTC island which is much better idea
IMO.

0% because it has absolutely no research behind it.
Probably a scam.

Has http://bitcoinisland.org been mentioned yet?
Objective - Crowdfunding a private island for Bitcoin
0% Raised So Far

The site looks really cheap, even the photo could be much better.

Probably N. Korea has a few nukes which might at least fizzle a bit.  But they starved half their population in order to get them so it would be unlikely that they would be especially generous in giving them away.

Israel, OTOH, has plenty.  And they might see the utility of having a safe-house of sorts for some of their higher-ups in the form of an isolated and well defended island since a slip-up could result in the need for a hasty vacation of the so-called 'promised land'.  They've made a good number of enemies over the years and they may find that more of their friendships than they had hoped might be of the fair-weather variety if the shit actually hits the fan at some point.

(I just paid my taxes so the billions we (the U.S.) send to Israel and the diddly-squat we get in return is especially annoying right about now.  If I had my way the one last thing I'd send to Israel would be Pollard's dead carcass then I'd dust off my hands and let the Zionists pursue their projects on their own.)

great......

I'm pretty sure they do? My suggestion was not serious btw.

North Korea doesn't have any nukes. And most importantly, we should be politically independent. That means no alliances with anyone.

We should ally with North Korea and get a few nukes for free.

set up a military, purchase a few nuclear warheads, submarines, tanks, siege an island, write your own law

Check this:


A little bit of hope for us!!!

http://www.burningman.com/

How about a joint donation wallet using a form of escrow so that the only way that it can be spent is if all the donators agreed to spend it. the only option should be that individual donators could get their funds back after 30 days request if they decide to opt out. This would give us an idea who was serious, without risking anything.

The details would need to be worked out - for the island, I mean. But even the details for setting up a meeting forum to get ideas for the whole thing would need to be worked out. Or could we use a thread in Bitcointalk?

Lot of work involved. We also would need some cool, experienced heads just to put it all together. I'm not much of a programmer, only a little javascript and perl. But I do have access to some of the best freedom government ideas around as you can see from one of my previous posts in this thread, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6026390.

What do you think? Should we start a thread designed around the idea of initial organization?

Why yes, yes you can. It's called Self. And you're already eyeball deep in bitcoin land. Up to you to take control over your domain without asking permission. That's what you need to fully understand. Freedom isn't an island. It's a state of mind and a state of self. You and me and them and whoever can pile onto a piece of land anywhere and the current authority will blow us all to bits for our disobedience. OR you and me and them can turn to this currency and blow the central authority out of the water, even if it begins on the underground as a fad...

Laws are only as good as the people who choose to accept them. Most people have a slave paradigm because they were born into it from generations passed. It's all habitual and the idea of legitimate freedom to people who don't know they're as free as they choose to be (as opposed to as free as someone else lets them be) is an alien concept.

Self is a sovereign place, a sovereign space with 100% self control over its future and can choose to accept an official currency and spread the word.

I think that Andreas A (- spelling block) and others make this point well: bitcoin is a disruptive technology, no doubt about it. Adopting it requires the ones accepting it to take 100% control and responsibility over their own realities, from their financial security to the way they get through life. Once the balance of power shifts because of the wealth transfer, the "powers that be" who presume their own wealth makes them the masters will be hit with an ugly reality that they're irrelevant. They can scream, snort and holler foul all they want and write up more laws than they can spell, and it won't matter...the people would have chosen their own currency, adopted it, built an organic economy, be anonymous or transparent at their own discretion, and change the way everything works, including the need for a government at all.

That decentralization factor is going to be mega HUGE for people when the concept snaps into place and they realize en mass they don't need nor require some self appointed agency of corrupt twats to decide what they can and cannot do, what they can and cannot spend, how much, how little, or whether they should hand over any portion of it to said twats for any reason, when they no longer need to answer to a government...

Bitcoin is the currency that finally allows Self to get up off its knees and govern itself without needing the agency to handle things or think for them.  THAT is freedom...and by the time governments figure out what happened, it'll be too late because all the people have to do is CHOOSE bitcoin and they can end all this shit across the globe once and for all.


This goes for all countries everywhere. Once the people choose to accept bitcoin as the people's currency and develop the infrastructure throughout this network, the value of the currency rises while the value of the state's fiat currency tanks hard - value goes down when nobody wants it. The state, then, cannot pay its enforcers...they can't pay its soldiers...they can't pay its legal entities...with worthless currency...because the currency that is valued and used by the people in the whole bitcoin network has changed everything.

The individual agents of government might buy into bitcoin when they don't have anything else but they do so without their centralized authority.

Government then is the people's government...like it was always supposed to be. No need for an island...just understand the disruptive potential of bitcoin and EMBRACE it out the ass!  Instead of being at the mercy of shops for fun stuff, organize and let the owners/merchants know that you CHOOSE bitcoin and won't be purchasing from them with any other currency. If their sales drop, they'll start accepting it. Especially if there is an "in world" style marketplace that deals exclusively in these real goods and services.

That's freedom.

use it or lose it.