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Bit_Happy

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A Great Time to Start Something!

Quote from: S4VV4S on April 02, 2014, 06:47:30 AM

Quote from: blacksails on April 02, 2014, 06:13:46 AM

Quote from: johnyj on April 02, 2014, 06:01:43 AM

You don't really need a physical land, it will be stupid to rebuild it from scratch. You only need a virtual land attached to the physical world, which makes the physical world a sub-set of this virtual land (the physical world have very limited freedom, maximum 4 dimension, but a virtual world can have unlimited dimension)

Any country's financial system on this planet is only a sub-set of bitcoin network

Do you mean like a virtual country? A digital nation? If that is possible it sounds like a really cool idea!

It already exists but not with BTC, instead it's Linden Dollars.
It's called second life.

Personally I tried it once and found it stupid, but it's a good base start.

Second life had so much potential, but it really sucks.
Such a waste....

tvbcof

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Quote from: blacksails on April 02, 2014, 12:11:30 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 02, 2014, 11:47:01 AM

Quote from: blacksails on April 02, 2014, 10:55:06 AM

That is true, and even if we don't give a fuck about the government it's still immoral. Can't we just take some uninhabited island somewhere and build our nation there?

The problem is that all the uninhabited islands are claimed by one country or the another. There are no free islands left.

If you have money, then you can try building an artificial island in the international waters. That'll be quite difficult, as the international waters (outside the EEZ of UN members) are very deep.

That's what i mean; We'll take it and declare it to be an independent nation. Building an island in international waters would be close to impossible even if you're filthy rich.

I suggest 'Condom Reef' for you guys. It's also in the South Pacific(*):

http://devolve.com/bizarre/condom.html

(*) In actual fact, Condom Reef is an artifact of someone's demented mind...but then so are most of these Libertarian utopia ideas so it kinda fits.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 02, 2014, 11:47:01 AM

Quote from: blacksails on April 02, 2014, 10:55:06 AM

That is true, and even if we don't give a fuck about the government it's still immoral. Can't we just take some uninhabited island somewhere and build our nation there?

The problem is that all the uninhabited islands are claimed by one country or the another. There are no free islands left.

If you have money, then you can try building an artificial island in the international waters. That'll be quite difficult, as the international waters (outside the EEZ of UN members) are very deep.

No matter what such an island would require a standing army there, if we set up a Bitcoin island we would have to bring weapons.. Nukes would probably ensure we could start up such an island just like how they protect NK from annihilation. I was kind of just throwing the idea around, but it would require a war to get.. the banksters are not fond of letting their slaves go.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 02, 2014, 11:47:01 AM

Quote from: blacksails on April 02, 2014, 10:55:06 AM

That is true, and even if we don't give a fuck about the government it's still immoral. Can't we just take some uninhabited island somewhere and build our nation there?

The problem is that all the uninhabited islands are claimed by one country or the another. There are no free islands left.

If you have money, then you can try building an artificial island in the international waters. That'll be quite difficult, as the international waters (outside the EEZ of UN members) are very deep.

That's what i mean; We'll take it and declare it to be an independent nation. Building an island in international waters would be close to impossible even if you're filthy rich.

Bitcoin Magazine

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we'll need amateur radio, so we can update the Blockchain electronically Shocked

73, KD4YKT

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 02, 2014, 11:47:01 AM

If you have money, then you can try building an artificial island in the international waters. That'll be quite difficult, as the international waters (outside the EEZ of UN members) are very deep.

Also once you did, you'd have to defend it.

If you look at the history of somewhere like Singapore, they required massive military support from Israel in order to be safe from just being taken over by a near neighbour like Malaysia.

lemfuture

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if it does happen im in. dibs close to seashore!

bryant.coleman

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Quote from: blacksails on April 02, 2014, 10:55:06 AM

That is true, and even if we don't give a fuck about the government it's still immoral. Can't we just take some uninhabited island somewhere and build our nation there?

The problem is that all the uninhabited islands are claimed by one country or the another. There are no free islands left.

If you have money, then you can try building an artificial island in the international waters. That'll be quite difficult, as the international waters (outside the EEZ of UN members) are very deep.

blacksails

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Quote from: Bit_Happy on April 01, 2014, 10:29:47 PM

Quote from: TippingPoint on April 01, 2014, 10:10:21 PM

Fatu Hiva

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatu_Hiva

33 square miles

population < 600

Looks like a nice place.
Are those < 600 friendly or blood thirsty?

The Norwegian explorer Thor Heyerdahl lived there with his wife for a while.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatu_Hiva_(book)

Quote from: S4VV4S on April 02, 2014, 09:58:44 AM

Edit 3: Are we trying to create the Matrix here? I know I have mentioned this before but....

That'd be cool. But I'm thinking more of a "real world" digital nation. I mean, why not? The digital revolution is already all over us!

Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 02, 2014, 10:51:31 AM

Quote from: blacksails on April 02, 2014, 08:28:10 AM

Yeah, but fuck the UN. Still, since we have some money the Nauru government will totally cooperate. (Nauru doesn't really have any money)

No country will allow unlimited immigration to the point that the natives become only a fraction of the population. Already in Nauru, only around 60% of the population is native.

That is true, and even if we don't give a fuck about the government it's still immoral. Can't we just take some uninhabited island somewhere and build our nation there?

bryant.coleman

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Quote from: blacksails on April 02, 2014, 08:28:10 AM

Yeah, but fuck the UN. Still, since we have some money the Nauru government will totally cooperate. (Nauru doesn't really have any money)

No country will allow unlimited immigration to the point that the natives become only a fraction of the population. Already in Nauru, only around 60% of the population is native.

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Quote from: Bit_Happy on April 01, 2014, 10:29:47 PM

Looks like a nice place.
Are those < 600 friendly or blood thirsty?

A census taker once tried to test them. They ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

S4VV4S

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Quote from: Destiffmast on April 02, 2014, 09:35:22 AM

I'm in. Let's do this!!! Grin

OK, so how do we go about this?

Let's see, I personally can create a virtual world in Flash which is supported by Windows, Mac and Linux.
Mobiles are a problem here...

We do however need some sort of blockchain and I must admit that it is beyond my skills to embed blockchain in the Flash platform.

Apart from that, I can definitely create a virtual world including stores, etc, in Flash, all backed up with a database and cross-platform third party tools like Zinc or Haxe.
I will need help though if we want it fast.

We can call it ~~BitCountry~~ BitCointry Grin

- or something.

If something like this is created then maybe we can start shaping things the way we want them?

We will probably need to seek legal advice when using a virtual world to sell real life products legally.

I don't know, it's a start, but I am up for it Grin

EDIT: Seriously, imagine the possibilities of creating a REAL WORLD - game - where everyone is happy!

EDIT 2: OP. I think I love your idea and my wife will probably hate me for not going to bed before 4:00am because I am working on this....

Edit 3: Are we trying to create the Matrix here? I know I have mentioned this before but....

Destiffmast

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I'm in. Let's do this!!! Grin

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 02, 2014, 07:59:29 AM

Quote from: Bitram on April 02, 2014, 07:49:14 AM

If I donate to such Island, would i get my own plot from the start ? Cheesy

No. Such an island is not possible to build. Every square inch of the earth (not only the land, but the oceans also) is currently claimed by some UN nation. They will not allow the creation of a Bitcoin island.

The only option for Bitcoiners is to migrate to some less populated nation like Nauru, and take it over. But international law prevents such a takeover.

Yeah, but fuck the UN. Still, since we have some money the Nauru government will totally cooperate. (Nauru doesn't really have any money)

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Or, we could all decide on one location and move there. Some location that is already friendly to our ideals, but has a small enough population and government footprint that we can affect change. Damn, http://freestateproject.org/ beat me to it.

bryant.coleman

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Quote from: Bitram on April 02, 2014, 07:49:14 AM

If I donate to such Island, would i get my own plot from the start ? Cheesy

No. Such an island is not possible to build. Every square inch of the earth (not only the land, but the oceans also) is currently claimed by some UN nation. They will not allow the creation of a Bitcoin island.

The only option for Bitcoiners is to migrate to some less populated nation like Nauru, and take it over. But international law prevents such a takeover.

Bitram

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If I donate to such Island, would i get my own plot from the start ? Cheesy

S4VV4S

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Quote from: blacksails on April 02, 2014, 07:19:15 AM

Quote from: S4VV4S on April 02, 2014, 06:47:30 AM

Quote from: blacksails on April 02, 2014, 06:13:46 AM

Quote from: johnyj on April 02, 2014, 06:01:43 AM

You don't really need a physical land, it will be stupid to rebuild it from scratch. You only need a virtual land attached to the physical world, which makes the physical world a sub-set of this virtual land (the physical world have very limited freedom, maximum 4 dimension, but a virtual world can have unlimited dimension)

Any country's financial system on this planet is only a sub-set of bitcoin network

Do you mean like a virtual country? A digital nation? If that is possible it sounds like a really cool idea!

It already exists but not with BTC, instead it's Linden Dollars.
It's called second life.

Personally I tried it once and found it stupid, but it's a good base start.

No, I'm not thinking of a game. I'm thinking of an actual self-declared digital nation! With its servers placed on international territory or something. That would be really cool.

Like I said it's a base start....

None the less, if more members are interested in creating a such world count me in as designer, web designer and a few other things I do on the side Wink

EDIT: No need for international servers. Blockchain baby!!!!!

blacksails

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Quote from: S4VV4S on April 02, 2014, 06:47:30 AM

Quote from: blacksails on April 02, 2014, 06:13:46 AM

Quote from: johnyj on April 02, 2014, 06:01:43 AM

You don't really need a physical land, it will be stupid to rebuild it from scratch. You only need a virtual land attached to the physical world, which makes the physical world a sub-set of this virtual land (the physical world have very limited freedom, maximum 4 dimension, but a virtual world can have unlimited dimension)

Any country's financial system on this planet is only a sub-set of bitcoin network

Do you mean like a virtual country? A digital nation? If that is possible it sounds like a really cool idea!

It already exists but not with BTC, instead it's Linden Dollars.
It's called second life.

Personally I tried it once and found it stupid, but it's a good base start.

No, I'm not thinking of a game. I'm thinking of an actual self-declared digital nation! With its servers placed on international territory or something. That would be really cool.

James222

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Wassup?

Great idea I have to say but mafias and drug dealers would stick around this place. You'd need to get bitcoin to another level. Basically, you'd need to make it spendable without your computer. Maybe some sort of paypass bitcoin card?

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