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Oh.
No problem guys, I'm totally fine if you think that:

- I'm a bad coder.
- My code does not work.
- My method for ECDLP is bad.
- I did not win three highest puzzles.
- Or I won them because I'm very lucky or because I'm a billionaire.
- Or I'm the puzzle creator.
- I owe you something.
- I have to prove something.

Take care  Grin
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Exactly. I'm a retired coder, a good one, so I do it for fun mostly when I have time and interest, and it becomes boring after a month of managing a network of GPUs.


I have a question, if this is just for fun, why do you keep the knowledge to yourself? I understand that we mortals keep things to ourselves to have an advantage, but how does that benefit you? And you will say that you shared kang1 but your "SOTA" code I have tested and implemented on GPU and it is even slower because it makes excessive use of ECC operations, while the ideal is to work with Int and only use points where strictly necessary.
so even though you think you are a good programmer you prove the opposite, which makes you even more suspicious of being the creator and you went crazy, staining your own lore.

C'mon, everyone knows "State Of The Art" code needs a proprietary compiler and a proprietary OS, and zero explanations on what it's doing. My very first post on this forum was about the level of arrogance of some users, we're at the peak now. I write low-level C code for 20 years, have a few certificates and can pass with 100 score any programming quiz in two dozen programming languages, and I can understand and optimize stuff at the assembler level, but I would never qualify myself as a "good coder" not even after I will retire, because there is something new to learn every day.

I don't think we'll ever see RetiredCoder's crazy fast GPU kernel with cycle handling and so on. He either used other methods, or like to burn money (and our self esteem at the same time).
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Exactly. I'm a retired coder, a good one, so I do it for fun mostly when I have time and interest, and it becomes boring after a month of managing a network of GPUs.


I have a question, if this is just for fun, why do you keep the knowledge to yourself? I understand that we mortals keep things to ourselves to have an advantage, but how does that benefit you? And you will say that you shared kang1 but your "SOTA" code I have tested and implemented on GPU and it is even slower because it makes excessive use of ECC operations, while the ideal is to work with Int and only use points where strictly necessary.
so even though you think you are a good programmer you prove the opposite, which makes you even more suspicious of being the creator and you went crazy, staining your own lore.
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I got more than I spent, but mostly I do it for fun and prestige, I like world records  Smiley



Maybe it's time to call the Guinness Book of World Records and let them handle all the 'prestige'!  Wink

At this rate, you're not just solving puzzles, you're setting up to break the internet. Might want to save the forum for those of us still trying to figure out how to make a single GPU run without overheating!  Grin

Grin  Grin  Grin
Everyone should respect to everyone

Who buy me a coffee
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I got more than I spent, but mostly I do it for fun and prestige, I like world records  Smiley



Maybe it's time to call the Guinness Book of World Records and let them handle all the 'prestige'!  Wink

At this rate, you're not just solving puzzles, you're setting up to break the internet. Might want to save the forum for those of us still trying to figure out how to make a single GPU run without overheating!  Grin
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When I solved #125 I gave up because it became boring. I thought someone else would solve #130, but nobody did it, so after a year I started again and I spent about two months to solve #130.

Interesting thanks for sharing, I just get a little confused because before you stated that it was more than a year.

3. I have no idea how some people calculated time two months between solving #125 and #130  Huh it was a year or so.
I never said that I spent a year to solve #130, I just said that time between #125 and #130 was about a year, not two months as some people calculated.

Well yes some other users already said that those DP for another rages can help too,my doubt is that if you use them as is or they need some shift/calculation?

It depends on a method used, in my method I can use old DPs easily (just convert all DPs to tames) because my tame kangs are next to zero and their range is small. For classic methods I like this idea:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54629413

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Not just fishy but VERY fishy. Is this the son of Elon musk or something? We need clarifications from others!!

Why fishy? It makes perfect sense. By solving #120 and especially #125, he had enough BTC, so there was no need to bother further with solving #130 immediately, thus leaving #130 for other people to showcase their skills, but as no one managed to take the opportunity, he came back and solved #130 by himself, not for crypto, but for prestige, and prestige will be even higher once when he solves #135. Smiley

Exactly. I'm a retired coder, a good one, so I do it for fun mostly when I have time and interest, and it becomes boring after a month of managing a network of GPUs.

When I solved #125 I gave up because it became boring. I thought someone else would solve #130, but nobody did it, so after a year I started again and I spent about two months to solve #130.
Yes you can use old DPs to solve next puzzle, it helps a bit.
I will try to finish solving #135 in 2025.

Sorry but you are beginning to lose credibility (unfortunately not the first sign).

Let's pretend it took 60 days to solve the 129-bits puzzle, and somehow you were also very lucky and only needed 2**64.5 operations (basically half of the time and lower than your supposed 1.23 factor). Let's also pretend that everything was running 24/7 with no pauses, no interruptions, no overheads from storing and matching DPs, no network congestions, so an ideal scenario.

Let's also pretend that you never needed to compute new starting points (this is the biggest question mark I have on you and your algorithms, since it's unfair not to be taken into account).

2**64.5 = 26,087,635,650,665,564,425 EC point additions
60 days = 5,184,000 seconds

That gives 5,032,337,123,971 EC point additions/sec, from start to solve, in an utopian context.

Let's now pretend your super fast kangaroos runs at 10 Gop/s on a RTX 4090.

This gives a required number of 503 GPU cards, all of them running non-stop 2 months, yielding and sending DPs to a central server.

Let's take something like 0.8 $/h cost of running a single RTX 4090.

The cost of running the GPUs for 60 days at that rate would be 576.000 $.

Until one week ago, you didn't take any profit from earlier puzzles, so clearly this wasn't a reinvestment, and there is strong chance the prize may have been less than the costs.

So, why are you doing this? And I'm not talking about solving the puzzles.

I paid 0.25-0.3$ per hour for 4090. The rest of your calculations is correct (roughly).
I got more than I spent, but mostly I do it for fun and prestige, I like world records  Smiley

PS. This thread is useless, no tech discussions, 95% are trolls, haters and people with strange ideas, so I will try to avoid/ignore it as I did in the past.
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When I solved #125 I gave up because it became boring. I thought someone else would solve #130, but nobody did it, so after a year I started again and I spent about two months to solve #130.
Yes you can use old DPs to solve next puzzle, it helps a bit.
I will try to finish solving #135 in 2025.

Sorry but you are beginning to lose credibility (unfortunately not the first sign).

Let's pretend it took 60 days to solve the 129-bits puzzle, and somehow you were also very lucky and only needed 2**64.5 operations (basically half of the time and lower than your supposed 1.23 factor). Let's also pretend that everything was running 24/7 with no pauses, no interruptions, no overheads from storing and matching DPs, no network congestions, so an ideal scenario.

Let's also pretend that you never needed to compute new starting points (this is the biggest question mark I have on you and your algorithms, since it's unfair not to be taken into account).

2**64.5 = 26,087,635,650,665,564,425 EC point additions
60 days = 5,184,000 seconds

That gives 5,032,337,123,971 EC point additions/sec, from start to solve, in an utopian context.

Let's now pretend your super fast kangaroos runs at 10 Gop/s on a RTX 4090.

This gives a required number of 503 GPU cards, all of them running non-stop 2 months, yielding and sending DPs to a central server.

Let's take something like 0.8 $/h cost of running a single RTX 4090.

The cost of running the GPUs for 60 days at that rate would be 576.000 $.

Until one week ago, you didn't take any profit from earlier puzzles, so clearly this wasn't a reinvestment, and there is strong chance the prize may have been less than the costs.

So, why are you doing this? And I'm not talking about solving the puzzles.
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I hope no one actually believes they can compete with RetiredCoder aka 3Emi. It looks like a billionaire's hobby, not a contest. It costs at least 500K to break 135, but he doesn't do it for the money, and I won't be a sheep.

Looking at the ROI...I think the puzzle creator is competing with himself.  Embarrassed

Ok well noted   Smiley Smiley
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It is clear to me that the best thing that can happen for the sake of Bitcoin's encryption security is the impossibility of solving this challenge. Assuming that the challenges already solved were completed by the creator themselves, all of this only serves to attest to the level of cryptographic security present in this digital masterpiece created by Satoshi.

Well, in my opinion is actually the other way around if those challenges are solved it should be a clear sign to the bitcoin developers to migrate to another encryption scheme.

It may be one of two things:
- A bigger Elliptic Curve.
- A post-Quantum Algorithm.

Also you need to consider that this challenge has two variants, one for public key and one for address.

Public keys as we see are secure if they is great than 130 bits (By the moment), Also you need to consider that real wallets are usually near 256 bits
Address security by the moment are secure if the address is higher 66 bits.... yes i know if the public keys is leaked it may be completely insecure, but that is only if you know the expected range of such address Which usually doesn't happen.


When I solved #125 I gave up because it became boring. I thought someone else would solve #130, but nobody did it, so after a year I started again and I spent about two months to solve #130.



Interesting thanks for sharing, I just get a little confused because before you stated that it was more than a year.

3. I have no idea how some people calculated time two months between solving #125 and #130  Huh it was a year or so.

In any case that has a lot of more merit, two months to break a 129 bit key is amazing without doubt a world record!

Yes you can use old DPs to solve next puzzle, it helps a bit.
I will try to finish solving #135 in 2025.

Well yes some other users already said that those DP for another rages can help too,my doubt is that if you use them as is or they need some shift/calculation?

Regards!




Yes, this guy is the creator himself, whether it's for fun, mockery or to spark interest.
People believe in him because he shows three private keys but they don't stop to think that it's more likely that he is the creator than that a single individual has solved everything, "just out of boredom." These types of people, despite having everything, are unhappy, and usually do these things out of delusions of grandeur. How sad this man's life must be.
There he leaves his crumbs of 400 bucks, and everyone applauds him.
people see what they want to see.
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Guys, if you notice, some people still think that 130 bits was solved in two months. I think it's best to stay silent and avoid arguments—it would just be a waste of your time.
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It is clear to me that the best thing that can happen for the sake of Bitcoin's encryption security is the impossibility of solving this challenge. Assuming that the challenges already solved were completed by the creator themselves, all of this only serves to attest to the level of cryptographic security present in this digital masterpiece created by Satoshi.

Well, in my opinion is actually the other way around if those challenges are solved it should be a clear sign to the bitcoin developers to migrate to another encryption scheme.

It may be one of two things:
- A bigger Elliptic Curve.
- A post-Quantum Algorithm.

Also you need to consider that this challenge has two variants, one for public key and one for address.

Public keys as we see are secure if they is great than 130 bits (By the moment), Also you need to consider that real wallets are usually near 256 bits
Address security by the moment are secure if the address is higher 66 bits.... yes i know if the public keys is leaked it may be completely insecure, but that is only if you know the expected range of such address Which usually doesn't happen.


When I solved #125 I gave up because it became boring. I thought someone else would solve #130, but nobody did it, so after a year I started again and I spent about two months to solve #130.

Interesting thanks for sharing, I just get a little confused because before you stated that it was more than a year.

3. I have no idea how some people calculated time two months between solving #125 and #130  Huh it was a year or so.

In any case that has a lot of more merit, two months to break a 129 bit key is amazing without doubt a world record!

Yes you can use old DPs to solve next puzzle, it helps a bit.
I will try to finish solving #135 in 2025.

Well yes some other users already said that those DP for another rages can help too,my doubt is that if you use them as is or they need some shift/calculation?

Regards!


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It is clear to me that the best thing that can happen for the sake of Bitcoin's encryption security is the impossibility of solving this challenge. Assuming that the challenges already solved were completed by the creator themselves, all of this only serves to attest to the level of cryptographic security present in this digital masterpiece created by Satoshi.
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Not just fishy but VERY fishy. Is this the son of Elon musk or something? We need clarifications from others!!

Why fishy? It makes perfect sense. By solving #120 and especially #125, he had enough BTC, so there was no need to bother further with solving #130 immediately, thus leaving #130 for other people to showcase their skills, but as no one managed to take the opportunity, he came back and solved #130 by himself, not for crypto, but for prestige, and prestige will be even higher once when he solves #135. Smiley
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When I solved #125 I gave up because it became boring. I thought someone else would solve #130, but nobody did it, so after a year I started again and I spent about two months to solve #130.
Yes you can use old DPs to solve next puzzle, it helps a bit.
I will try to finish solving #135 in 2025.

What is the hardware that are you planning to use? In case of 4090, how many pieces ?
If you are bored of solving this alone, you can always create a pool so people can contribute to solve it faster. I definitely would join that!
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When I solved #125 I gave up because it became boring. I thought someone else would solve #130, but nobody did it, so after a year I started again and I spent about two months to solve #130.
Yes you can use old DPs to solve next puzzle, it helps a bit.
I will try to finish solving #135 in 2025.

Lol, it became boring?! you are saying this as if it was some kind of hobby that you did. It was over $500k and now It's $1m and you got bored ''solving'' and stopped??! Are you billionaire or something? Or are you just the creator of the puzzle that is messing with us lol, this can't be real. Something is fishy here about this person. Not just fishy but VERY fishy. Is this the son of Elon musk or something? We need clarifications from others!!
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Yes sure, as stated by @RetiredCoder he found #120 last year, then shifted dp, into #125 this year and found, right after 2 month he shifted dp into #130 and found, mean duration in between #125 #130 is two months, no change in GPUs , same he will shift#130 to #135, and before January 2025 you will see #135 found
My judgement could be wrong.....?

Check the dates again #125 was redeem on July 9, 2023 and #130 was redeem on September 23, 2024 That is one year plus two months.

Also I think that the DP shift may have some catchs please @RetiredCoder can you clarify this point? As far I know those DP need to have some amount of zeros on the public key right?

When I solved #125 I gave up because it became boring. I thought someone else would solve #130, but nobody did it, so after a year I started again and I spent about two months to solve #130.
Yes you can use old DPs to solve next puzzle, it helps a bit.
I will try to finish solving #135 in 2025.
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$$P2P BTC BRUTE.JOIN NOW ! https://uclck.me/SQPJk
if sub  from substract from piz 135 , pubkey of 2^137, ot 2^136, and result *  -1


result pubkey diapazon will be start with 1


Code:
userland@localhost:~/ecctools$ ./modmath -0x20000000000000000000000000000000000  + 0x55ba2d7c6de51414b57e461959e9ba3a2
Result: fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffe041651b4ad8d99e18717b6c0226ed1e4e3

userland@localhost:~/ecctools$ ./modmath 0xfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffe041651b4ad8d99e18717b6c0226ed1e4e3 x -1
Result: 1faa45d283921aebeb4a81b9e6a61645c5e

userland@localhost:~/ecctools$ ./modmath -0x20000000000000000000000000000000000  + 0x58d79e8e64425601c758385c9c7c3b41e
Result: fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffe044828c5ccf36e00583555e45697f9f55f

userland@localhost:~/ecctools$ ./modmath 0xfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffe044828c5ccf36e00583555e45697f9f55f x -1
Result: 1fa72861719bbda9fe38a7c7a36383c4be2




maybe vanitysearch, after this, help find more numbers of priv dip.
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Is there a telegram channel dedicated to this 32btc puzzle? would be faster to collaborate each other

Yes, here is the link: https://t.me/+PsvfJN31_YM3NTk5 everyone in the group is welcome
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Is there a telegram channel dedicated to this 32btc puzzle? would be faster to collaborate each other
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Yes sure, as stated by @RetiredCoder he found #120 last year, then shifted dp, into #125 this year and found, right after 2 month he shifted dp into #130 and found, mean duration in between #125 #130 is two months, no change in GPUs , same he will shift#130 to #135, and before January 2025 you will see #135 found
My judgement could be wrong.....?

Check the dates again #125 was redeem on July 9, 2023 and #130 was redeem on September 23, 2024 That is one year plus two months.

Also I think that the DP shift may have some catchs please @RetiredCoder can you clarify this point? As far I know those DP need to have some amount of zeros on the public key right?
Ahh yes you are right
By mistake I understand dates
But still believe, very soon you will see #135 found
Your question about pubkey, in my view if it's able to get result of non floating point, by cuberoot or sqrt then it could find more fastest then normal kangaroo search



Yes sure, as stated by @RetiredCoder he found #120 last year, then shifted dp, into #125 this year and found, right after 2 month he shifted dp into #130 and found, mean duration in between #125 #130 is two months, no change in GPUs , same he will shift#130 to #135, and before January 2025 you will see #135 found
My judgement could be wrong.....?

Check the dates again #125 was redeem on July 9, 2023 and #130 was redeem on September 23, 2024 That is one year plus two months.

Also I think that the DP shift may have some catchs please @RetiredCoder can you clarify this point? As far I know those DP need to have some amount of zeros on the public key right?
Ahh yes you are right
By mistake I understand dates
But still believe, very soon you will see #135 found
Your question about pubkey, in my view if it's able to get result of non floating point, by cuberoot or sqrt then it could find more fastest then normal kangaroo search
If pubkey multiplayer by 30240. (7*12*360)
Result could by dividing 1 to 10 without floating point
About these read my earlier post
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