Topic: ★★★ Bitcoin Video Casino ★★★ - ||| Over 500 BTC in Progressive Jackpots! ||| - page 56. (Read 143509 times)

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We received an email from you about an hour ago. We then responded to your email within an hour, which included resolving your problem. We don't see any other emails from you. Are you sure that you sent it to the correct address? ([email protected])

A Bitcoin transaction was credited to your account on Feb 17 which then turned out to never get accepted into the blockchain. We require two confirmations for all deposits before we can enable withdrawals for the account. We have to do this since otherwise a bad user could send an illegitimate deposit to his account, and then immediately withdraw the funds from his account.

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did played.. from 3 bitcoins to one bitcoin

now im waiting for this one bitcoin

I did have 2 Bitcoins which i want to withdraw. All transaction were confirmed (2 or more!!!) and i'm recieving the error

Deposited Bitcoins have not been confirmed yet. Two (2) confirmations are required before you can withdraw. Please try again later.


please be careful, i dont can understand why, i also wrote twice a mail

will edit if i could do it

thanks!

Instead of worrying about dumb themes, why don't you answer everyone's questions from the last 2-3 days about fixing the bot issue, instead of implementing themes. Bot problem is a bit more of a problem, then adding some simple code (and trust me, I know its simple code just to add themes).

Thanks for the nice words about our slots!

We have considered adding themes for a while now. There could be a button next to the help button where you can choose what theme to play with. We also briefly thought about having special limited time holiday themes (Christmas, Halloween, Easter, etc).

you know ive wagered at every casino in crypto. when it comes to slots im not really into them



but i must say your slot is the best. the way looks, way it pays out. if i were you i would make 5-6 diffrent slots with same concept. just diffrent themes. your sitting on a goldmine

Actually, there is a solution; a PMP (Progressive Money Pot). The probability of winning the PMP is inversely proportional to the Money in the Pot and proportional to the amount you bet. So if the pot has 2 BTC, in it, you should have half the chance of winning it as if it had 1 BTC. And if you bet 1 BTC, you should have double the chance of winning the pot as if you bet 0.5 BTC.  It keeps the pot EV exactly the same, regardless of the pot being 1 or 1000 BTC, and regardless of bet size.

In almost all cases, a PMP is superior to a progressive jackpot and I'd advise sites to consider it (along with the correct terminology, of course)

bots? we dont need no stinking bots......



2nd day iv played here. i never use bots(takes the fun of every single bet you make).


think i deposted $15 and cashed out 2.1 BTC


i was in no rush. i wasnt bettng 33 times every second.



gotta thank dooglus. i was reading his last 20 posts ad clicked on this thread

Admins of the site sure are quite in this thread now. What do you expect when you are fraudsters and can't back up claims properly or work with users to fix issues with the site.

That's what it looks like, on dice 0.5% of each bet goes to the progressive, so it is out of their 1% expected profit.  All I'm saying is that a bet at 49.5% pays 2x, just like everywhere else.


Per user according to their support, yes, but I haven't tested this.  I certainly hope it's a per-user issue, otherwise this could be an avenue for dos attacks.  Running bots in parallel on different accounts would solve the issue, but so would running 5 instances of a browser on different accounts with 5 tabs each.

I was interested in seeing if I could get the auto play to function quicker, and I found that setting game_system.CARD_DELAY to 10 would make about 5 requests per second in video poker, something like 500% of standard auto-play speed.  That brings the required number of tabs to compete with a 10 request/sec bot to 2.  This setting appears to work with video poker, blackjack, and slots, all other games already have no meaningful delays. 

i just played here for first time. love the slots

They're taking 50% of their *expected* profit, right? Because even if the players are lucky and the site has a losing week they still put 0.5% of the total wagered amount into the progressive pot.

My proposal is that they should offer an opt-out for the player, where instead of 0.5% of their bet going to a progressive pot, it is considered as bonus on their stake and so if they win, their payout is approximately 0.5% bigger than it would be if they hadn't opted out.


Couldn't you run 5 bots? It depends on the sync issue you were hitting - is it per user? If so, running the bot as 5 different users would fix that.

The contribution comes from their house edge.  Look at the dice game, base return is 99.0, then they take 50% of their profit and stick it in a progressive pot.  That's no different than any of the 99% dice games for the average player, there's just an additional and optional aspect of the game that some might find fun.  To be clear, the odds on these games are common odds found at many online casinos, the casino itself is donating a portion of its profit to the progressive pots.  If people don't like the progressives, they can completely ignore them and be happy knowing that they're receiving the return stated in the Base Game row of BVC's expected return page.

As far as the bot complaints go, they're ridiculous.  If people think a bot will help them they should be building their own or looking to purchase one.  I did build a bot, it was able to do something like 10 requests/second before running in to database sync issues on the site's side.  Note that's 10 requests/sec, not games/sec.  In video poker, that's 5 games/sec.  BVC's fast setting plays a game about once every 2 seconds, so it would have been quicker to open 10 tabs and hit the auto button than building a bot.  The fast setting on slots plays about 2 games/sec, 5 open tabs would be the equivalent of my bot.  The only conceivable advantage a bot may have over others is the ability to monitor the progressive pots continuously and automatically start and stop betting, but this does not give anyone any kind of advantage in actual game play.  It is wholly possible to achieve the same games/sec as a bot with multiple browser tabs and the in game auto function.

All that said, it is completely possible that BVC is playing their own progressives, and I think that might be an issue for some people.  They say they aren't, and the burden of proof lies on the ones making the claim in the affirmative, so at this point we have to assume that they aren't until such time that someone proves they are.  Additionally we know advantage players exist, so Occam's razor applies.

But you can do this is a real casino; any machine with a progressive pot will become +EV at some point, and there are players known as "advantage players" who will wait for that to happen, and only play machines where the progressive pot is big enough to give them a positive expectation.

They will keep playing until they hit the jackpot, or until someone else does - and then wait for it to build up again.

Is this fair? That's hard to say. The advantage players make a profit over time. And that profit doesn't come at the house's expense. The house makes a profit over time too. So who is paying for the advantage players' profit? It's the regular players. The ones who play the machines when it's -EV to do so. The suckers who fill the progressive pot to make it worth the advantage players playing.

It's funny - I was just talking to someone earlier today in the Just-Dice chat about this, and then I heard about the drama over in this thread. The guy in the JD chat was suggesting that we should offer some kind of progressive pot. I said I didn't think it was a good idea, because it would cause exactly these kinds of problems. The "smart" players wouldn't play until the pot got big, and then they'd play until they won it. The net effect is a bunch of coins passing from the regular players to the advantage players.

So what's the answer?

My answer is not to offer any progressive pot games.

The problem is that people like them. They like to see a huge jackpot available for winning, even if they have to fund it themselves bit by bit over time.

I don't think that bot-detection is the answer. The bot authors will find ways to avoid detection. You'll be setting yourself up for a never-ending arms race where you try to prevent people from playing on your site and they find ways to play anyway - when people playing on your site is exactly what you DO want.

From what I remember of BVC(*) (it's been a while since I had time to play), players have an option of whether to contribute to the progressive pots or not - so the solution is already in place. If you don't like the bots sweeping in to pick up the big pots, don't feed them by filling the pots for them. Play without contributing to the progressive pot and the problem goes away.

Edit:


(*) So I was wrong above - you can't opt out of funding the jackpot (and hence the bots).

Maybe you should be able to.


It's absolutely standard that a ten-value card dealt on a split ace (or vice versa) is a "soft 21" and not a "natural", and so it follows that a natural blackjack beats the KA you got from splitting.

The rules they list are the ones which aren't the same everywhere. They don't list that 21 beats 20 either, because it's standard.


I think that decision may be the single root cause of the problems you're having with bots. Whenever you offer +EV games people will bot them. Hell, they even bot the -EV games!


There's nothing they can do, not really.

* They can limit the number of bets per second an account can make. The bot will just use multiple accounts.
* They can limit the number of bets per second an IP address can make. The bot will just use multiple IP addresses.
* They can make you solve CAPTCHAs occasionally. The bot will just ask its owner to solve the CAPTCHAs for it.
* They can try to detect "bot-like" behaviour. The bot will just act more randomly, to try to appear human.

It would be a never-ending arms race. The bot would win, because it has a human author who is able to provide whatever "human-ness" is required of it.

The solution is to only offer -EV games. Then the bots don't have any reason to play, and even if they do, nobody cares. Or at least offer -EV-only games to those who hate the bots. Then they have a way of playing that doesn't fund the bots' profits.


He probably meant per-spin. Obviously if the bot is playing faster than you it has a better chance of winning the progressing pot than you do.

Other peoples bets don't effect your chances of hitting it. You really can't be that F'ing dumb right? Have you seen the bot wins I've posted on this forum. It most certainly effects the chances of hitting it. As previously said, it does smell more and more like fraud, especially when you just register and don't even bother to read the last 5 pages of complaints and just post a screenshot. "I'm going to post a screenshot, that not everyone who wins is a bot". Well good for you... smells like your defending the owners of the site or are you part of it? Yup.

I've been playing on BVC for a while now, just want a bit of privacy for a big win.  Most of the coins for this jackpot came from my bets as I contributed to the jackpot for over 4 hours before I got it.   It's not that hard to win a jackpot, just have the right bankroll and keep playing until it is hit.  Other peoples bets don't effect your chances of hitting it.

Wow someone comes and registers an account after winning a jackpot to post on bitcointalk about winning a jackpot.  That seems extremely realistic.  It's the first thing I would do. 

This smells more and more like fraud.

http://i.imgur.com/itwplEy.png

Was playing for the slots jackpot most of the day and won with two tabs autoplay fast