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Topic: ★★★ Bitcoin Video Casino ★★★ - ||| Over 500 BTC in Progressive Jackpots! ||| - page 57. (Read 143651 times)

full member
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Wow someone comes and registers an account after winning a jackpot to post on bitcointalk about winning a jackpot.  That seems extremely realistic.  It's the first thing I would do.  Huh

This smells more and more like fraud.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
http://i.imgur.com/itwplEy.png

Was playing for the slots jackpot most of the day and won with two tabs autoplay fast  Grin Grin Grin
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
We just had our biggest 0.005 BTC Slots jackpot ever! Congratulations b20397fb81 on your enormous 405.48 BTC win!!! Smiley

Yup and probably another bot win or another BTC Video Casino mod win to keep positive. Amazing how the jackpot again went up another 100 BTC in a matter of hours.. AGAIN. Just like the most recent jackpot on 0.2 went up several hundred BTC in a matter of hours.

Why don't you respond to everyone telling you how to resolve the issue using captchas.

With as slow as your site is running 1 spin at a time on Slots, even 2 spins a second is fast unless it's on Auto Fast. I smell website moderator win. Just as the others point to your guilt.
full member
Activity: 432
Merit: 100
You aren't really addressing the problem head on.  The bots need to be stopped.  How will you do that?  The more you dodge the question the guiltier you look...

Also 2 spins per second seems pretty fast for a regular player as well...
hero member
Activity: 806
Merit: 500
We just had our biggest 0.005 BTC Slots jackpot ever! Congratulations b20397fb81 on your enormous 405.48 BTC win!!! Smiley
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
Could you please address your site's stance on using bots to play your games?  Particularly bots playing the games only when the progressive makes it a positive play?

Sure!

Bitcoin Video Casino has an API that anybody can use to make their own creations. This can include things such as building a new UI to play the games, creating mobile versions, trying out different AI strategies, etc. We have nothing against people creating bots to play the games. This is essentially what autoplay does already.

What we do have a problem with is people using the API to create bots that play the games too quickly. It's not fair to the other users if the bots can flood the server with too many games per second, especially when the jackpot is +EV. If we detect a user playing, for example, 100 games per second, we flag that as a malicious bot and disable the account.

The problem is that we can't detect users that split the bots over multiple accounts and multiple IP addresses. As far as we can tell, each single account is playing the games at a normal rate. All accounts on Bitcoin Video Casino are anonymous already, so there isn't anything to make these accounts stand out. It would be terrible if we started flagging real human accounts as bots just because they happened to be playing at the same time as the bots.

Some people have suggested extreme measures like forcing regular captchas on all users, but I believe that something like this will make the site less enjoyable for most users. We are still looking for a better solution to detecting malicious bots.

Bitcoin Video Casino absolutely does not operate any bots. We just run an honest site with 0.5% house edge and that's good enough for us. Smiley

Yeah, after last night I'm pretty much done with BVC until the bot issue is better addressed. A captcha needs entered plus better filtering. I'll roll 20-30 Bitcoin only because of the hopes of winning it back, but when the bots log on and knock it out in seconds it really leaves a shitty taste in my mouth. Not the fact that I lost the money, it's the fact that I felt like they had an unfair advantage and just are snakes.

Honestly, the main problem might even be the progressive itself. It may just need taken out and the jackpots need hard coded in. The progressives are only benefiting the bot players and it also tends to look really bad on the site owners.

Also what stops the site owners from simply playing against the house when the progressive is up? They know the server seed... It wouldn't make sense for the house to play against itself if all the jackpots were simply flat rate.

The main problem is that you also cannot prove you aren't playing against yourself and robbing us when we are building up the progressives. Without the progressive jackpot then the house percentage and chance to win is heavily skewed.

Yes you are probably correct that part of the problem lies in the progressive jackpots themselves. When the jackpot has a positive expected return, there is an incentive for bot operators to quickly play games since in the long run they should come out ahead.

When we created the site, we believed that adding progressive jackpots would be a fun way to make our site stand out from all the others. The jackpots are always changing size, so it serves as an incentive to come back to the site and see how big they are. It also lets some lucky players win big prizes. Therefore, we designed all our games around having progressive jackpots in addition to a low 0.5% house edge. We'd like to think that there are plenty of users that enjoy the jackpots – they probably just aren't as vocal on this forum.

We are worried that if we remove progressive jackpots and use some kind of fixed jackpot system, we will disappoint other users. As far as we can tell, most users come to the site and have a good time. If we start changing things around, that may no longer be the case.

For what it's worth, the most recent 37.048 BTC slots jackpot was won by a player that was playing at a rate of 2 games/second. As far as we can tell, this was a regular user that won the jackpot. Regular users do still win the jackpots. We do also sometimes see that a jackpot is +EV, but nobody is currently playing.

We only ever play the games on the site when testing something out. We never try to win the jackpots. We know that in the long run, with our 0.5% house edge, we will come out ahead, so we don't need to cheat. From a business perspective, it would be devastating to our site if we got caught cheating, so we simply refuse to do it. There are a lot of questionable Bitcoin businesses out there, but we are not one of them.

All I see is.. blablabla.. not even attempting to answer his question of implementing away at stopping the bots. Blablabla, we aren't doing anything to win the jackpots, blablabla we understand your frustration, blablabla we are only worried about our site getting hits and wont change a progressive structure... blablabla F YOU to the regular player. Yup..
hero member
Activity: 806
Merit: 500
Could you please address your site's stance on using bots to play your games?  Particularly bots playing the games only when the progressive makes it a positive play?

Sure!

Bitcoin Video Casino has an API that anybody can use to make their own creations. This can include things such as building a new UI to play the games, creating mobile versions, trying out different AI strategies, etc. We have nothing against people creating bots to play the games. This is essentially what autoplay does already.

What we do have a problem with is people using the API to create bots that play the games too quickly. It's not fair to the other users if the bots can flood the server with too many games per second, especially when the jackpot is +EV. If we detect a user playing, for example, 100 games per second, we flag that as a malicious bot and disable the account.

The problem is that we can't detect users that split the bots over multiple accounts and multiple IP addresses. As far as we can tell, each single account is playing the games at a normal rate. All accounts on Bitcoin Video Casino are anonymous already, so there isn't anything to make these accounts stand out. It would be terrible if we started flagging real human accounts as bots just because they happened to be playing at the same time as the bots.

Some people have suggested extreme measures like forcing regular captchas on all users, but I believe that something like this will make the site less enjoyable for most users. We are still looking for a better solution to detecting malicious bots.

Bitcoin Video Casino absolutely does not operate any bots. We just run an honest site with 0.5% house edge and that's good enough for us. Smiley

Yeah, after last night I'm pretty much done with BVC until the bot issue is better addressed. A captcha needs entered plus better filtering. I'll roll 20-30 Bitcoin only because of the hopes of winning it back, but when the bots log on and knock it out in seconds it really leaves a shitty taste in my mouth. Not the fact that I lost the money, it's the fact that I felt like they had an unfair advantage and just are snakes.

Honestly, the main problem might even be the progressive itself. It may just need taken out and the jackpots need hard coded in. The progressives are only benefiting the bot players and it also tends to look really bad on the site owners.

Also what stops the site owners from simply playing against the house when the progressive is up? They know the server seed... It wouldn't make sense for the house to play against itself if all the jackpots were simply flat rate.

The main problem is that you also cannot prove you aren't playing against yourself and robbing us when we are building up the progressives. Without the progressive jackpot then the house percentage and chance to win is heavily skewed.

Yes you are probably correct that part of the problem lies in the progressive jackpots themselves. When the jackpot has a positive expected return, there is an incentive for bot operators to quickly play games since in the long run they should come out ahead.

When we created the site, we believed that adding progressive jackpots would be a fun way to make our site stand out from all the others. The jackpots are always changing size, so it serves as an incentive to come back to the site and see how big they are. It also lets some lucky players win big prizes. Therefore, we designed all our games around having progressive jackpots in addition to a low 0.5% house edge. We'd like to think that there are plenty of users that enjoy the jackpots – they probably just aren't as vocal on this forum.

We are worried that if we remove progressive jackpots and use some kind of fixed jackpot system, we will disappoint other users. As far as we can tell, most users come to the site and have a good time. If we start changing things around, that may no longer be the case.

For what it's worth, the most recent 37.048 BTC slots jackpot was won by a player that was playing at a rate of 2 games/second. As far as we can tell, this was a regular user that won the jackpot. Regular users do still win the jackpots. We do also sometimes see that a jackpot is +EV, but nobody is currently playing.

We only ever play the games on the site when testing something out. We never try to win the jackpots. We know that in the long run, with our 0.5% house edge, we will come out ahead, so we don't need to cheat. From a business perspective, it would be devastating to our site if we got caught cheating, so we simply refuse to do it. There are a lot of questionable Bitcoin businesses out there, but we are not one of them.
legendary
Activity: 906
Merit: 1002
Could you please address your site's stance on using bots to play your games?  Particularly bots playing the games only when the progressive makes it a positive play?

Sure!

Bitcoin Video Casino has an API that anybody can use to make their own creations. This can include things such as building a new UI to play the games, creating mobile versions, trying out different AI strategies, etc. We have nothing against people creating bots to play the games. This is essentially what autoplay does already.

What we do have a problem with is people using the API to create bots that play the games too quickly. It's not fair to the other users if the bots can flood the server with too many games per second, especially when the jackpot is +EV. If we detect a user playing, for example, 100 games per second, we flag that as a malicious bot and disable the account.

The problem is that we can't detect users that split the bots over multiple accounts and multiple IP addresses. As far as we can tell, each single account is playing the games at a normal rate. All accounts on Bitcoin Video Casino are anonymous already, so there isn't anything to make these accounts stand out. It would be terrible if we started flagging real human accounts as bots just because they happened to be playing at the same time as the bots.

Some people have suggested extreme measures like forcing regular captchas on all users, but I believe that something like this will make the site less enjoyable for most users. We are still looking for a better solution to detecting malicious bots.

Bitcoin Video Casino absolutely does not operate any bots. We just run an honest site with 0.5% house edge and that's good enough for us. Smiley

Yeah, after last night I'm pretty much done with BVC until the bot issue is better addressed. A captcha needs entered plus better filtering. I'll roll 20-30 Bitcoin only because of the hopes of winning it back, but when the bots log on and knock it out in seconds it really leaves a shitty taste in my mouth. Not the fact that I lost the money, it's the fact that I felt like they had an unfair advantage and just are snakes.

Honestly, the main problem might even be the progressive itself. It may just need taken out and the jackpots need hard coded in. The progressives are only benefiting the bot players and it also tends to look really bad on the site owners.

Also what stops the site owners from simply playing against the house when the progressive is up? They know the server seed... It wouldn't make sense for the house to play against itself if all the jackpots were simply flat rate.

The main problem is that you also cannot prove you aren't playing against yourself and robbing us when we are building up the progressives. Without the progressive jackpot then the house percentage and chance to win is heavily skewed.
hero member
Activity: 806
Merit: 500
Could you please address your site's stance on using bots to play your games?  Particularly bots playing the games only when the progressive makes it a positive play?

Sure!

Bitcoin Video Casino has an API that anybody can use to make their own creations. This can include things such as building a new UI to play the games, creating mobile versions, trying out different AI strategies, etc. We have nothing against people creating bots to play the games. This is essentially what autoplay does already.

What we do have a problem with is people using the API to create bots that play the games too quickly. It's not fair to the other users if the bots can flood the server with too many games per second, especially when the jackpot is +EV. If we detect a user playing, for example, 100 games per second, we flag that as a malicious bot and disable the account.

The problem is that we can't detect users that split the bots over multiple accounts and multiple IP addresses. As far as we can tell, each single account is playing the games at a normal rate. All accounts on Bitcoin Video Casino are anonymous already, so there isn't anything to make these accounts stand out. It would be terrible if we started flagging real human accounts as bots just because they happened to be playing at the same time as the bots.

Some people have suggested extreme measures like forcing regular captchas on all users, but I believe that something like this will make the site less enjoyable for most users. We are still looking for a better solution to detecting malicious bots.

Bitcoin Video Casino absolutely does not operate any bots. We just run an honest site with 0.5% house edge and that's good enough for us. Smiley
full member
Activity: 432
Merit: 100
Could you please address your site's stance on using bots to play your games?  Particularly bots playing the games only when the progressive makes it a positive play?
hero member
Activity: 806
Merit: 500
Is there a problem with your email server?  I have been emailing [email protected] repeatedly for the last two days about a problem with my account and I have still received no response.

Same here.  Let me know if you hear anything.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. It looks like [email protected] was not forwarding to the correct email address. We have fixed the problem and are now working on replying to all of those emails. Sorry about that!
hero member
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Is there a problem with your email server?  I have been emailing [email protected] repeatedly for the last two days about a problem with my account and I have still received no response.

Same here.  Let me know if you hear anything.
full member
Activity: 432
Merit: 100
newbie
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Is there a problem with your email server?  I have been emailing [email protected] repeatedly for the last two days about a problem with my account and I have still received no response.
hero member
Activity: 806
Merit: 500
One of the hard disks on the server seems to have gotten filled up, so the server is experiencing some problems. We have temporarily taken down the server while we fix this.

I am really sorry about the inconvenience. All accounts and deposits are fine.

The site now up again. All deposits and accounts are fine. I'm really sorry about the inconvenience.
hero member
Activity: 806
Merit: 500
One of the hard disks on the server seems to have gotten filled up, so the server is experiencing some problems. We have temporarily taken down the server while we fix this.

I am really sorry about the inconvenience. All accounts and deposits are fine.
hero member
Activity: 806
Merit: 500
hello why cant i check my personal stats? i have no adblock enabled and did try with multiple browsers.if i click my name for the stats just nothing happens,same for other users i did try,in the login window

We have temporarily disabled the stats display since they were causing some problems on the database. When we build a better solution we can enable them again.

If you'd like us to look up some stats for your account, please feel free to email us at [email protected] and we can check the database for you.
sr. member
Activity: 400
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hello why cant i check my personal stats? i have no adblock enabled and did try with multiple browsers.if i click my name for the stats just nothing happens,same for other users i did try,in the login window
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