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AcePuppy

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Quote from: LtPaxIV on January 16, 2015, 07:46:27 PM

so here to all that blame only bots win jackpots

this was me and im not a bot.so its possible to win.i was using autobet setting @ fast.

but still i think it might be annoying if u try for a bigger one and then the bots log in.

Jackpots normally don't occur on the smallest bet when it comes to any of the games, except of course Roulette, where it isn't a choice.

LtPaxIV

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so here to all that blame only bots win jackpots

this was me and im not a bot.so its possible to win.i was using autobet setting @ fast.

but still i think it might be annoying if u try for a bigger one and then the bots log in.

LtPaxIV

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i dont think captchas will do anything.where/when would u place one?after login? isnt usefull i mean u think someone would care if he has to put in a captcha before using his bots? i dont think so.after each roll/bet? well noone would do this

AcePuppy

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Well can you respond to the previous comment about using captcha?

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Quote from: LtPaxIV on January 14, 2015, 06:51:37 PM

u can also track the number of players loggin in.i mean if suddenly 10+ players login at the same time theres something goin on.also can u tell if its always the same bot accounts? because u need to top of every new account before u can play,so for me it would be less hassle using same accounts over and over

Agreed, it definitely looks suspicious when suddenly 10 accounts show up at the same time. Unfortunately, there might also be a human account that happened to arrive at the same time, so there isn't any guarantee that they are all bots. We don't want to accidentally disable a real human account because we incorrectly thought they were a bot.

It seems to be different accounts that are winning the jackpots, so I am guessing it's a mix of new bot accounts being created and regular humans. It would be pretty easy for a bot operator to automate the creation and funding of new accounts, in order to avoid using the same account more than once.

Add custom captcha for all players. It may stop bots.

BitcoinVideoPoker

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Quote from: angeloanggam on January 15, 2015, 03:27:23 AM

Quote from: BitcoinVideoPoker on January 15, 2015, 01:08:51 AM

Wow! We just had our first ever 0.05 BTC/credit Video Poker progressive jackpot! Congratulations user 380f8057f7 on your enormous 243.9 BTC win! This is the #7 biggest win we've ever had on our site.

THis is cool.. So the deal is live here?

A live deal? What do you mean?

All games here are completely random and independent of each other. The games are single-player, so you can play without having to wait for other users.

angeloanggam

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Quote from: BitcoinVideoPoker on January 15, 2015, 01:08:51 AM

Wow! We just had our first ever 0.05 BTC/credit Video Poker progressive jackpot! Congratulations user 380f8057f7 on your enormous 243.9 BTC win! This is the #7 biggest win we've ever had on our site.

THis is cool.. So the deal is live here?

AcePup

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Another bot jackpot win. This time over 200btc on Video Poker. Fair my mother fucking ass.

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BitcoinVideoPoker

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Wow! We just had our first ever 0.05 BTC/credit Video Poker progressive jackpot! Congratulations user 380f8057f7 on your enormous 243.9 BTC win! This is the #7 biggest win we've ever had on our site.

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Quote from: LtPaxIV on January 14, 2015, 06:51:37 PM

u can also track the number of players loggin in.i mean if suddenly 10+ players login at the same time theres something goin on.also can u tell if its always the same bot accounts? because u need to top of every new account before u can play,so for me it would be less hassle using same accounts over and over

Agreed, it definitely looks suspicious when suddenly 10 accounts show up at the same time. Unfortunately, there might also be a human account that happened to arrive at the same time, so there isn't any guarantee that they are all bots. We don't want to accidentally disable a real human account because we incorrectly thought they were a bot.

It seems to be different accounts that are winning the jackpots, so I am guessing it's a mix of new bot accounts being created and regular humans. It would be pretty easy for a bot operator to automate the creation and funding of new accounts, in order to avoid using the same account more than once.

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u can also track the number of players loggin in.i mean if suddenly 10+ players login at the same time theres something goin on.also can u tell if its always the same bot accounts? because u need to top of every new account before u can play,so for me it would be less hassle using same accounts over and over

BitcoinVideoPoker

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Quote from: Eisenhower34 on January 14, 2015, 12:50:48 PM

Can you rate limit the API requests or calls at least?

If the bots could only play at the speed of actual players or if I could get that script.

Pisses me off when I pump the jackpots 20+ BTC and it gets hit, really, really pisses me off.

We could probably implement rate limiting in our server code. It would take some time to write and test. I'm a little worried that legitimate users might somehow get affected by this. The code wouldn't be able to prevent someone from just playing with more accounts over more IP addresses unfortunately.

If you see a user that is playing way too quickly, please email the user ID to [email protected] and we will take a closer look. We can manually disable bot accounts that are playing too quickly.

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Quote from: Eisenhower34 on January 14, 2015, 12:50:48 PM

Can you rate limit the API requests or calls at least?

If the bots could only play at the speed of actual players or if I could get that script.

Pisses me off when I pump the jackpots 20+ BTC and it gets hit, really, really pisses me off.

We all know you're the mafia here on bitcointalk (meaning if someone defaulted on your loans, you could hunt them down and inflict great pain).

Why not find the owner and make him do the same? You seem to play this site a lot so it would be in your best interest to make sure you are provided the great 0.50% edge they offer and not giving it away to the bots.

Eisenhower34

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Can you rate limit the API requests or calls at least?

If the bots could only play at the speed of actual players or if I could get that script.

Pisses me off when I pump the jackpots 20+ BTC and it gets hit, really, really pisses me off.

BitcoinVideoPoker

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Congratulations 482c674893 on your 78.035 BTC slots jackpot! This is quite a nice prize when playing 0.005 BTC credit slots!

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Quote from: AcePuppy on January 13, 2015, 12:27:38 PM

Amazed how a site like this can't prevent bots from "spawning over new accounts". Yet you still allow bots to win pretty much every jackpot. How about you deny the payment to these accounts or is it the site owner who is winning the jackpots to save money?

You all are pathetic and are FRAUDS.

And to your response of someone winning large Slots jackpots, why does it need to be someone who continually plays for hours until the progressive is hit? How is that "provably fair"? Ever been to a real casino where a jackpot has been hit within a couple of minutes?

This site needs to be looked into.

We can not tell who is a bot and who is not. All requests to the server look the same. Therefore, we can not deny payment to bots since we don't know who they are.

This was an early design decision when we created the site -- all accounts are completely anonymous and require no registration.

Again, we do not run any bots ourselves.

All of our games are completely random and independent of each other. The chance of a slots jackpot is something like 1/50,000 when playing 20 lines. This does not mean that someone must play exactly 50,000 games before they win the jackpot. Sometimes they play a lot less, and sometimes a lot more. We don't have any control over when it will get hit -- that's what provably fair means. Each game is independent, so playing X games and not winning the jackpot does not get you any closer to winning the jackpot. There is no counter that sees how many games have played and then awards the jackpot.

AcePuppy

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Amazed how a site like this can't prevent bots from "spawning over new accounts". Yet you still allow bots to win pretty much every jackpot. How about you deny the payment to these accounts or is it the site owner who is winning the jackpots to save money?

You all are pathetic and are FRAUDS.

And to your response of someone winning large Slots jackpots, why does it need to be someone who continually plays for hours until the progressive is hit? How is that "provably fair"? Ever been to a real casino where a jackpot has been hit within a couple of minutes?

This site needs to be looked into.

BitcoinVideoPoker

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Quote from: AcePup on January 11, 2015, 11:04:24 PM

And the bots continue to kill the roulette jackpots. Figures no response from site admins.

SITE IS A FRAUD!

Hi,

I have already responded to your issues with the bots. I have already stated:

1. We agree that the bots are a problem for our users on the web site.
2. We can't rate limit bots because the bot operator can just spawn more accounts over different IP addresses which we can't detect.
3. We don't have a proper solution yet.

These bots do not make us a fraud. We don't run the bots. I don't know why you continue to berate our site like this when we are clearly on your side. We don't want the bots to ruin the user experience. I have already said this multiple times.

We have a lot to offer our users. We run a fun Bitcoin casino with seven different games. We have instant deposits, fast gameplay and 2-confirmation withdrawals. We offer autoplay with different gameplay strategies. We have progressive jackpots in all our games. We have at most a 0.5% house edge, the lowest of any casino. We have been around for two years. And so on.

The fact that bots sometimes come and play fast games does not take away from any of the other features that we have on our site.

If you have constructive solutions that can help with this issue, then please let me know.

AcePup

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And the bots continue to kill the roulette jackpots. Figures no response from site admins.

SITE IS A FRAUD!

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