Bitcoinica stolen coin returns - page 6.

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Quote from: elux on May 20, 2012, 02:12:46 PM

Quote from: Daily Anarchist on May 20, 2012, 02:10:38 PM

So we know he doesn't like Bitcoinica because he thinks it harms Bitcoin. So, he likes Bitcoin but not Bitcoinica.

Maybe.

Quote from: EskimoBob on May 20, 2012, 02:13:28 PM

This was the topic of the IRC channel, before luke-jr started to act like a frack'n lunatic and change it.

" STATEMENT:: Bitcoinica caused much harm to the value of Bitcoin. They were targeted and destroyed. As sure as Bitcoinica fell, the value of Bitcoin rose. Profit from devaluation surely destroys a currency."

Ahh. Thanks. That clears it up.

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Quote from: Daily Anarchist on May 20, 2012, 02:10:38 PM

So we know he doesn't like Bitcoinica because he thinks it harms Bitcoin. So, he likes Bitcoin but not Bitcoinica.

The only extrapolation I would make is that he doesn't understand economics very well and thinks derivatives, short-selling, etc. are evil capitalist things.

The problem is that this guy sees what Wall Street does and thinks when Bitcoinica does it it must also be evil. The evil part of Wall Street is not the derivatives, short-selling, etc. It's the fact that when their investments and risks go bust they get FedGov to print new money up out of thin air to bail them out. This leads to moral hazard by essentially risking other people's money.

But when individuals risk their OWN money, it's not the same thing as evil Wall Street.

So much this^^

We should embrace freedom and if people want to gamble (erm: speculate Tongue

) with their money that's their own choice.

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on May 20, 2012, 09:02:00 AM

Quote from: wachtwoord on May 20, 2012, 06:25:15 AM

oes anyone know , or have any idea about, his reasoning? Doesn't seem like a rational decision ....

Based on his comments on IRC, it seems his intention is to harm Bitcoinica more than anything else.

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1BPKHoL1sAVnfzxnH38RfXYYcHrEcniUKW

Did you use Vanitygen to create the address? How long did it take you to create that 10 character address?

It's an ordinary address, with quite a bit more than 10 characters...

This was the topic of the IRC channel, before luke-jr started to act like a frack'n lunatic and change it.

" STATEMENT:: Bitcoinica caused much harm to the value of Bitcoin. They were targeted and destroyed. As sure as Bitcoinica fell, the value of Bitcoin rose. Profit from devaluation surely destroys a currency."

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Quote from: Daily Anarchist on May 20, 2012, 02:10:38 PM

So we know he doesn't like Bitcoinica because he thinks it harms Bitcoin. So, he likes Bitcoin but not Bitcoinica.

Maybe.

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So we know he doesn't like Bitcoinica because he thinks it harms Bitcoin. So, he likes Bitcoin but not Bitcoinica.

The only extrapolation I would make is that he doesn't understand economics very well and thinks derivatives, short-selling, etc. are evil capitalist things.

The problem is that this guy sees what Wall Street does and thinks when Bitcoinica does it it must also be evil. The evil part of Wall Street is not the derivatives, short-selling, etc. It's the fact that when their investments and risks go bust they get FedGov to print new money up out of thin air to bail them out. This leads to moral hazard by essentially risking other people's money.

But when individuals risk their OWN money, it's not the same thing as evil Wall Street.

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Just thought I'd remind people of this.

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Quote from: Serith on May 20, 2012, 12:02:45 PM

I am sure that not everyone who got bitcoins will return it to Bitcoinica, so it's an expensive way to launder bitcoins by giving portion of it to random people.

Fixed your statement.

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Quote from: Serith on May 20, 2012, 12:02:45 PM

Quote from: Luke-Jr on May 20, 2012, 09:02:00 AM

Quote from: wachtwoord on May 20, 2012, 06:25:15 AM

oes anyone know , or have any idea about, his reasoning? Doesn't seem like a rational decision ....

Based on his comments on IRC, it seems his intention is to harm Bitcoinica more than anything else.

I am sure that not everyone who got bitcoins will return it to Bitcoinica, so it's a clever way to launder bitcoins by giving portion of it to random people.

That's what I was thinking. Now he can simply claim he got them donated when the hacker was giving them away.. reasonable doubt established.

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on May 20, 2012, 09:02:00 AM

Quote from: wachtwoord on May 20, 2012, 06:25:15 AM

oes anyone know , or have any idea about, his reasoning? Doesn't seem like a rational decision ....

Based on his comments on IRC, it seems his intention is to harm Bitcoinica more than anything else.

I am sure that not everyone who got bitcoins will return it to Bitcoinica, so it's a clever way to launder bitcoins by giving portion of it to random people.

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WTF? Ah!! I want to know the reasoning!?!? If he wanted to return the money he could give it to any public address of Gavin or any other honorable member here. The stunt doesn't look like good intention to me.
OTOH for mixing he could have done other things. I'm curious for your analysis and guess he is, too.

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Quote from: elux on May 20, 2012, 09:25:53 AM

Could anyone be so sweet as to pastebin the relevant IRC logs?

How much was returned in all, the full 18k? Or just specks and dust?

This? http://pastebin.com/3ukW7NpN

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Could anyone be so sweet as to pastebin the relevant IRC logs?

How much was returned in all, the full 18k? Or just specks and dust?

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Haha Luke-jr isn't pretending to be Bitcoins holy saviour Grin

(where would the PK stand for anyway?)

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Quote from: wachtwoord on May 20, 2012, 06:25:15 AM

oes anyone know , or have any idea about, his reasoning? Doesn't seem like a rational decision ....

Based on his comments on IRC, it seems his intention is to harm Bitcoinica more than anything else.

Quote from: check_status on May 20, 2012, 06:49:33 AM

Quote from: Luke-Jr

1BPKHoL1sAVnfzxnH38RfXYYcHrEcniUKW

Did you use Vanitygen to create the address? How long did it take you to create that 10 character address?

It's an ordinary address, with quite a bit more than 10 characters...

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Hacker seems to have left the channel.

What nick and IP was he using ?

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Quote from: wachtwoord on May 20, 2012, 06:25:15 AM

Does anyone know , or have any idea about, his reasoning? Doesn't seem like a rational decision ....

Judging by the little amounts in the address OP provided, I guess he just wants to distribute the coins the most he can so that following them becomes a harder task.

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Quote from: Scott J on May 20, 2012, 07:10:25 AM

So has anyone confirmed that they are coins from Bitcoinica he's giving away?

I did.

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Quote from: wachtwoord on May 20, 2012, 06:25:15 AM

Does anyone know , or have any idea about, his reasoning? Doesn't seem like a rational decision ....

... uhm why not? Just because you don´t understand?
In my eyes it is rather stupid not to see loads of possible reasonings behind this attack.
... could be just for the fun.
Maybe it´s a well planned attack and some bad coins are now starting to infect the chain.
Oh I praise you glorious crusaders and true believers, carry on to hunt them, doing your part of the work to destroy Bitcoin.

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Quote from: sebastian on May 20, 2012, 06:52:03 AM

check_status: I don't see where the "vanity" in the adress is.

We all have limitations.

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