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legendary
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THESE FUCKING CUNTS HAVE MADE ME WAIT OVER 6 MONTHS SO FAR, JUST TO GET VERIFIED!!!!!
THEY IGNORE EMAILS!!! THEY SEND YOU AN EMAIL WHEN THEY FEEL LIKE IT!!! MOTHER FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT!!!!!
DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY HERE!!!!!
YOU WILL REGRET IT!!!!!

there are many sheep who will not listen.
newbie
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THESE FUCKING CUNTS HAVE MADE ME WAIT OVER 6 MONTHS SO FAR, JUST TO GET VERIFIED!!!!!
THEY IGNORE EMAILS!!! THEY SEND YOU AN EMAIL WHEN THEY FEEL LIKE IT!!! MOTHER FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT!!!!!
DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY HERE!!!!!
YOU WILL REGRET IT!!!!!
newbie
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90-99% of all the Bitcoin is owned by 1% of all the users.
Bitcoin is an improvement to the monetary system only in efficiency. The main issue of the previous fiat currencies is more abundant in Bitcoin which is the concentration of the elites wealth making all other users slaves for the system.
Fair distribution and manipulation proof are the most important elements needed.
Also note the volatility as a way they increase their holdings through manipulation.
The entire crypto shere has been infiltrated not only bitcoin.

www.bitcoinb.io

Get involved and help expose the manipulation!
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"You gave Japan as an example of where Bitfinex is breaking the law. Where does Japanese law state that?"

TheQuin, another example that you know nothing about regulations :

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-crypto-currencies-japan/japan-to-warn-hong-kong-based-cryptocurrency-exchange-binance-source-idUSKBN1GY1BK?__twitter_impression=true

https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/03/22/binance-cryptocurrency-japan-operation/

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Contrary to reports from Japanese news outlet Nikkei, Binance has denied rumors that Japan’s Financial Services Authority (JFSA) is planning to issue a warning requiring the cryptocurrency exchange desk to shut down its operation in the country.

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Earlier today, Nikkei reported that the JFSA will likely deliver a shutdown warning to Binance in the coming days or weeks. The purported reason for the penalty was that the cryptocurrency exchange desk – which has several employees in Japan – has reportedly been operating without government approval, according to the local outlet.

Again, operating in Japan, unlike Bitfinex.
legendary
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Japan, Germany and many other countries requires a license for trading digital currencies like BTC.

Sometimes you can actually get something half right, but unfortunately, the other half defeats you.

Another pertinent question you didn't answer.

You gave Japan as an example of where Bitfinex is breaking the law. Where does Japanese law state that?

Does Bitfex own a Japan or EU financial license? I don't see it Smiley

It doesn't need one.

Unlike the US they don't consider licenses to be required of companies operating in foreign countries just because some of their citizens may use the service.

From all you are saying is that Bitfinex don't need any financial license anywhere.  Right? Cheesy

At the moment it would be only the US and even that is dubious due to the fact that the regulators reinterpreted the existing laws after the fact. That being said the US justice system is a conviction machine and they will always win in their own courts so it is possible that a few crypto exchanges may get a fine. With the BTC-e example, it is the money laundering that is the serious issue.


"You gave Japan as an example of where Bitfinex is breaking the law. Where does Japanese law state that?"

TheQuin, another example that you know nothing about regulations :

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-crypto-currencies-japan/japan-to-warn-hong-kong-based-cryptocurrency-exchange-binance-source-idUSKBN1GY1BK?__twitter_impression=true
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"Institutional Investors" are going to send $300 million dollars to a company:    LOL

Exactly, they wouldn't, so they must be sure that Tether is totally above board.

It has been long established that many of the tether “prints” is bitfinex processing customer USDT withdrawals.

Bitmex also published a research report about a month ago concluding bitfinex likely has bank accounts in PR and that tether is iargely used for financial speculation.
legendary
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"Institutional Investors" are going to send $300 million dollars to a company:    LOL

Exactly, they wouldn't, so they must be sure that Tether is totally above board.


by generating funds from thin air just to pump BTC. this is called fraud, market manipulation, issuing securities and so on .... Smiley

Bitfinex are criminals.
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"Institutional Investors" are going to send $300 million dollars to a company:    LOL

Exactly, they wouldn't, so they must be sure that Tether is totally above board.
legendary
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Tether prints $300,000,000 and Bitcoin jumps nearly $1000 in less than 30 minutes

https://imgur.com/SCxxxEj


"Institutional Investors" are going to send $300 million dollars to a company:    LOL

1. Not once completed an audit they promised.
2. Lied about association with Bitfinex.
3. Founded by a ponzi scammer.
4. CFO thought about committing fraud several times.
5. Under CFTC investigation.
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The relevant bit:

reportedly pursuing investors in the country.

Are Bitfinex doing that? If you actually read the story you would see it is about raising funds via an ICO not operating an exchange.

The next relevant bit:

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Revised in April 2017, the new payment services law prohibits unregistered cryptocurrency exchanges from operating in the country. Exceptions are made to exchanges operating before the updated legislation.

Operating in means have a physical presence in, not having customers in. How many times do I have to explain that to you? Even if an exchange did have an office in Japan they would be OK because of the exception.
legendary
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I am keep saying that Bitfinex is doesn't have any financial license and that they operate a criminal company and the TheQuin is responding that they don't need one.  Huh Roll Eyes Grin

All the licensed exchangers are idiots and TheQuin & Bitfinex are the smart ones...

No, I said they don't need those licenses because they either don't have a physical presence in that jurisdiction or in the case of BVI don't need one because they are not trading equities, commodities or forex.

Of course, you already know that because you were unwilling to answer the questions I left you about AvaTrade.


For Mr shill TheQuin :

Japan’s Financial Services Agency (FSA) has issued its first warning under the country’s revised payment services law – which recognizes bitcoin as a legal method of payment – to Macau-based Blockchain Laboratory, an unregistered firm reportedly pursuing investors in the country.

https://www.ccn.com/japanese-regulator-warns-unregistered-macau-based-crypto-operator/

Bitfinex is unlicensed in Japan as it's in any other country. Bitfinex accepts clients from Japan even they don't have any license for that.

Again, you talk non-senses...  Wink
legendary
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Bitfinex fails to perform promised audits. Instead, they have a shareholder tell everyone it’s all cool:

https://medium.com/@bitfinexed/bitfinex-fails-to-perform-promised-audits-instead-they-have-a-shareholder-tell-everyone-its-all-965ae7037b5d
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Besides, I´m pretty sure that they currently only allow Euro deposits and still don´t offer USD deposits
to retail clients.

They have re-enabled it on the withdrawals page, although I haven't actually tried it as I'm all in on BTC at the moment.
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...

We have been through this one as well and again there is no evidence to support this.

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There is a new, highly popular, thread on reddit where a guy has made some analysis about Tether using
the OMNI block explorer. If his discoveries are true - I unfortunately didn´t have the time
to dig into his claims deeper - things are looking pretty grim for Bitfinex.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7ih0hd/guess_who_controls_over_half_a_billion_tethers/

Basically he found out that even the wallets with high Tether balances that allegedly belong
to the big altcoin exchanges Poloniex and Bittrex according to the official "Tether richlist" seem to be controlled by Bitfinex.

I concede that this is once again little actual proof and much conjecture and the author also states:
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Due to the increasing attention of this post, I feel the need to re-state that there's always
the possibility that we're all severely misunderstanding what's going on here.
Which is actually my hope, as I've already stated. I want to emphasize that I am just some guy.
I get things wrong and I make mistakes. Knowing this, please don't take this post as the gospel truth.
I am not an authority. In such a case that we are indeed severely misunderstanding things,
I would also hope that Bitfinex/Tether could explain what all this is about, so we can all chillax.

Let´s hope that this is just again a misunderstanding, but at first glance something definitely looks suspicious.

Besides, I´m pretty sure that they currently only allow Euro deposits and still don´t offer USD deposits
to retail clients.



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Your knowledge about financial licenses are almost zero so I cannot debate with you anymore.

As I already explained to you but you seem incapable of understanding let me try again.

Bitfinex does not require a licence to trade cryptocurrencies in any country it does not have a physical presence. The US would be the only exception to this and that is why Bitfinex has stopped accepting customers located in the US.
In all the examples you came up with of other exchanges holding licences they are required to do so because they have offices located in those jurisdictions.

Under BVI law there is no requirement to hold a licence for a cryptocurrency exchange. In the example you gave of AvaTrade they are required to hold a licence because they trade equities, commodities and forex which is something Bitfinex does not do.

The facts remain : Bitfinex is a unlicensed company,

I have demonstrated this to be completely untrue.

their Tether is printing USDT out of thin air. They are a fraud and a scam.

We have been through this one as well and again there is no evidence to support this.

All USD trading on Bitfinex is actually USDT. They used to offer real USD which is why they are listed on coinmarketcap as such, but they lost their bank. How is it possible to have such volumes without a bank account? Smiley

They have new banking arrangements and are currently accepting deposits and withdrawals in both USD and EUR.

@deisik
I guess this the wrong thread for this argument anyway but you argued that "with more money being poured into the system will cause even higher price fluctuations"
I disagreed with that. "higher price fluctuations" is higher volatility so I stated what actually does cause higher volatility and you ignored it until I ask you many times to actually engage with my point then you just arrogantly dismiss it as not worthy of debate without giving any counter-argument. It is pointless to continue.

legendary
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I am keep saying that Bitfinex is doesn't have any financial license and that they operate a criminal company and the TheQuin is responding that they don't need one.  Huh Roll Eyes Grin

All the licensed exchangers are idiots and TheQuin & Bitfinex are the smart ones...

No, I said they don't need those licenses because they either don't have a physical presence in that jurisdiction or in the case of BVI don't need one because they are not trading equities, commodities or forex.

Of course, you already know that because you were unwilling to answer the questions I left you about AvaTrade.



Your knowledge about financial licenses are almost zero so I cannot debate with you anymore. It's alright if you are Bitfinex investor, shill or staff...

The facts remain : Bitfinex is a unlicensed company, their Tether is printing USDT out of thin air. They are a fraud and a scam.

All USD trading on Bitfinex is actually USDT. They used to offer real USD which is why they are listed on coinmarketcap as such, but they lost their bank. How is it possible to have such volumes without a bank account? Smiley

Bitfinex = Tether = criminal gang       Stay away of them !  Cool
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I am keep saying that Bitfinex is doesn't have any financial license and that they operate a criminal company and the TheQuin is responding that they don't need one.  Huh Roll Eyes Grin

All the licensed exchangers are idiots and TheQuin & Bitfinex are the smart ones...

No, I said they don't need those licenses because they either don't have a physical presence in that jurisdiction or in the case of BVI don't need one because they are not trading equities, commodities or forex.

Of course, you already know that because you were unwilling to answer the questions I left you about AvaTrade.
legendary
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this is about Bitfinex shit....

TheQuin and Quickseller are like their PR. They talk nonsenses with no common sense like any shill Smiley  


I am keep saying that Bitfinex is doesn't have any financial license and that they operate a criminal company and the TheQuin is responding that they don't need one.  Huh Roll Eyes Grin

All the licensed exchangers are idiots and TheQuin & Bitfinex are the smart ones...

It's not strange to see this thing on forums because I saw hordes of shills defending BTC-e in the same way,  so....

legendary
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You voice some trivialities about volatility, but this is as just irrelevant. How else should I call that but uninformative noise?


Another example of ignorant arrogant and unable to answer

Note that I ain't calling you any names

I don't say that you are wasting my time, I don't call you an ignorant, arrogant, and unable to argue look-alike, and whatever else you say in my regard or blame me with. Oh, sorry, I said you were flat-out wrong with your understanding of scarcity, but that's the way you are. And now you come and say that if I want to continue this debate I need to respond to your point. Nevertheless, which point exactly should I respond to? That volatility is whatever it is? What difference does it make if I'm primarily concerned with the causes of it and don't particularly care which definition of it you choose to use? Further, you make claims that there are dollars in the system but can you substantiate your claims apart from the fact that they were spent on bitcoins? How do you know that these dollars are still in the system? You don't know that and unless you provide evidence, your point is moot
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You voice some trivialities about volatility, but this is as just irrelevant. How else should I call that but uninformative noise?


Another example of ignorant arrogant and unable to answer.

It is relevant, as I have pointed out many times without response, as it was the basis of your opening argument that I am disagreeing with.

If you want to continue this debate you need respond to it.

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