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Topic: [BitFunder] IceDrill.ASIC IPO (235 Thash Mining Operation powered by HashFast) (Read 378671 times)

donator
Activity: 2772
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Hey guys, long time no see.

I'm doing taxes and information about how many icedrill shares I held would be very helpful to maybe declare some losses here.

Does anyone have an idea where to get information about my holdings of icedrill shares? I vaguely remember registering on some site after bitfunder went haywire. Is that site still up? Does it allow me to check my holdings?

Is there any kind of list of holders available or anything that would allow me to determine how much of icedrill I held?

Another question: what was a typical entry price? I assume buying was possible on bitfunder? Does anyone have a price history? In what time-range did I likely by my shares? Was there some initial offering price I could latch on to?

Any help appreciated.

member
Activity: 99
Merit: 11
26 BTC are still sitting in the Eligius payout address at https://blockchain.info/address/1J1WB4LxdKwR7Y3cSEYLDbYk16xiHa9ivp

Anybody seen DeadTerra, Will, or the other dude lately?

Are these BTC being held in reserve, or limbo, or just forgotten?

 Huh

Did you ever hear back from any of those 3? The 25BTC is still in the wallet.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 501
26 BTC are still sitting in the Eligius payout address at https://blockchain.info/address/1J1WB4LxdKwR7Y3cSEYLDbYk16xiHa9ivp

Anybody seen DeadTerra, Will, or the other dude lately?

Bump!

Will is active again, perhaps he'll give us an update or something?   Huh

O my God... This is a blast from the past ...

They should first extract the shitforks. At least BCH and BTG and deliver them as well.

The shitforks are the least of our concerns (but I love the fact we are all calling them shitforks).

The BTC recovered from Frap.doc may now be worth much more than Hashfast's debts.

We need Will to weigh in and tell us if the recent BTC moonshot has made iCEDRILL solvent.

The bankruptcy process has been winding down for years, asymptotically approaching its formerly foregone conclusion, but the explosion of the Frap.doc horde's fiat value may be a game changer.

I hope the creditor committee wasn't planning on quietly slinking off with all those massively appreciated Bitcoins.

Anyone here play golf with Judge Montali?  I'd love to chat him up about What This All Means(tm).  Cheesy

The creditor committee was dissolved many years ago when Hashfast was put into receivership.  The trustee appointed by the judge has been the sole decision maker ever since, and the committee members get no more information than ordinary members of the creditor class.  The trustee settled with Cypherdoc long ago.

Hashfast is a dead dog and so is Icedrill
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
Exchange Bitcoin quickly-https://blockchain.com.do
There was a post in here by og before..


he must of deleted it.. I do wonder why he is so sour against other projects that went wrong... I mean at least these guys admited it went wrong.. unlike NastyScams..

that one he keeps on flogging, even after not being able to pay debts in full..

now he is even calling it a charity!

anyway - hope you have some luck recovering the funds iCEBREAKER!

legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
26 BTC are still sitting in the Eligius payout address at https://blockchain.info/address/1J1WB4LxdKwR7Y3cSEYLDbYk16xiHa9ivp

Anybody seen DeadTerra, Will, or the other dude lately?

Bump!

Will is active again, perhaps he'll give us an update or something?   Huh

O my God... This is a blast from the past ...

They should first extract the shitforks. At least BCH and BTG and deliver them as well.

The shitforks are the least of our concerns (but I love the fact we are all calling them shitforks).

The BTC recovered from Frap.doc may now be worth much more than Hashfast's debts.

We need Will to weigh in and tell us if the recent BTC moonshot has made iCEDRILL solvent.

The bankruptcy process has been winding down for years, asymptotically approaching its formerly foregone conclusion, but the explosion of the Frap.doc horde's fiat value may be a game changer.

I hope the creditor committee wasn't planning on quietly slinking off with all those massively appreciated Bitcoins.

Anyone here play golf with Judge Montali?  I'd love to chat him up about What This All Means(tm).  Cheesy
sr. member
Activity: 299
Merit: 250
26 BTC are still sitting in the Eligius payout address at https://blockchain.info/address/1J1WB4LxdKwR7Y3cSEYLDbYk16xiHa9ivp

Anybody seen DeadTerra, Will, or the other dude lately?

Bump!

Will is active again, perhaps he'll give us an update or something?   Huh

O my God... This is a blast from the past ...

They should first extract the shitforks. At least BCH and BTG and deliver them as well.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
26 BTC are still sitting in the Eligius payout address at https://blockchain.info/address/1J1WB4LxdKwR7Y3cSEYLDbYk16xiHa9ivp

Anybody seen DeadTerra, Will, or the other dude lately?

Bump!

Will is active again, perhaps he'll give us an update or something?   Huh
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
You expect DT and Will to have used their magical psychic powers to predict BTC prices would collapse while difficulty exploded.

This is a really weak excuse. The price of BTC was below $100 when the security was released. If DT and Will took 25,000 BTC with no plan for a "collapse" in BTC price then what you are actually using for defense is that the issuers of the security were incompetent instead of fraudulent.

I did not invest in this "security" but wanted to read what happened. I have not seen anything that remotely resembles any sort of accountability of what happened. Your above explanation that it was the issuer's incompetence and that investors should have done DD to know the issuers were incompetent appears to be the closest thing we will get.
legendary
Activity: 4354
Merit: 3614
what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
learn to accept that risk, loss, and creative destruction are just as much part of capitalism as reward, gain, and success. 


lmao.. "creative destruction" many luzes here.

i accept losses in risky stuff: in finances, crypto, and life i general. but "creative destruction" riiiiight.

i do creative destruction deliberately with my electronics and my jeep. but again deliberately.

iceypoo, you are on ignore, just saw this cuz someone else quoted you, so maybe i will look for any reply you make, maybe not. couldnt care less about your opinions.


EDIT: btw i never went for your scam, so no dog in this fight.
member
Activity: 88
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DT wasn't acting as a "charity."  He was starting an ultra-risky ASIC mining company, which failed to beat the odds despite considerable efforts to the contrary.  We investors knew, or should have known, the risks going in and did our own due diligence accordingly.

Where that boy be at? Ain't been around lately.

So when you said "I am sure that the owners of this made out quite well" what you meant was
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Dunno 'bout him, but I'd say they haven't lost their shirts on this, as did all their marks  suckers savvy investors.

I implore you to eschew oversensitivity.

You've clearly been to Lrn 2 Sound Like a Pompous Douche finishing school Smiley

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Will and DT now have to deal with the endless-although-debunked scam accusations, and they wasted two years of the prime of their lives in the process

Ahh, don't weep for them, they'll be fine. Danny Brewster "wasted two years of the prime of [his] life" too, and look how well he's doing Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
I had you ignored because I find your posting style annoying and you seem to just shill for things like FailFast/IceDrill/Monero. I never bought pre-orders from FailFast or invested into this. I also never said I was using facts when I made my statement. "Oh, I am sure that the owners of this made out quite well." is just an opinion. Nice try making it sound like I had tried posting facts. It does take talent to make Bitcoins disappear like that though.

So when you said "I am sure that the owners of this made out quite well" what you meant was

"I believe, based on nothing but hivemind prejudice, that the owners of this made out quite well."

Thanks for clearing that up.   Smiley

It it possible you find my posts "annoying" because they cut against the grain of the hivemind, but you can't refute them?

I implore you to eschew oversensitivity.  Embrace difference of opinion and delivery style, as molecular has.

If he had ignored me, he'd have missed my reportedly enjoyable rant about the angry overentitled mob mentality, which is driven by the "success has many fathers but failure is an orphan" principle.

As a result of ID's negative ROI, Will and DT now have to deal with the endless-although-debunked scam accusations, and they wasted two years of the prime of their lives in the process, so they did not in fact make out "quite well."

Again, your own opinion = OK.  Your own facts = not OK.

In the future please be more clear when talking rubbish.  It lowers the signal/noise ratio when you present opinion in ways which may be casually/reasonably interpreted as factual assertion.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1119
I had you ignored because I find your posting style annoying and you seem to just shill for things like FailFast/IceDrill/Monero. I never bought pre-orders from FailFast or invested into this. I also never said I was using facts when I made my statement. "Oh, I am sure that the owners of this made out quite well." is just an opinion. Nice try making it sound like I had tried posting facts. It does take talent to make Bitcoins disappear like that though.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
I don't agree with you much, but above rant, I must say, I can get behind.

Especially this part:

Shake off the self-pity, grow up, and learn to accept that risk, loss, and creative destruction are just as much part of capitalism as reward, gain, and success.  You don't get one without the other.  Your parents should be slapped for failing to teach you that key life lesson.

This should also be told to our beloved banking elite, btw. No more "too big to fail", "too big to jail",...

Let's see how shit goes down this time around in Europe. Seems bail-outs might be back because Italy doesn't want it's bank-owning populous to suffer and is just going to ignore anti-bailout regulations.

Another Espresso, per favore. Europe on the brink...


I have him ignored, but I did not invest into that turd even after being approached by DT. I agree if you invest into risky stuff be prepared to lose out. I assume Ice was shilling for HF like always, though  Tongue

Molecular, we do seem to clash often but I respect you for reading my posts regardless, and especially for publicly praising them when appropriate.

Blazed is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.

The facts of this matter have been elucidated by two years of hideously expensive bankruptcy process, and they contradict the hivemind scam accusations popular around here.

Icedrill's earnings and payouts to investors are indelibly inscribed on the blockchain, for all to see.

It's pure laziness and hubris to refuse to read this fine thread, yet be "sure that the owners of this made out quite well."

How nice that Blazed may use the Ignore feature to mute any voices contradicting the bubble of invalid assumptions in which he dwells.   Cheesy

What should we do about people who continue to parrot Scam Accusation that have had their (700+) days in court, and were found to be without basis?

Where I come from, we call such defamation slander and libel.

I'd really like to see Blazed attempt to answer just one question:

Do you really believe the Hashfast creditor committee (many of whom don't like Icedrill) could have failed to discover such malfeasance during the expensive, exhaustive two year course of the bankruptcy proceedings?

The fact his only response is "LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU" demonstrates he has zero integrity, nor cares a wit for logic, fairness, and justice.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1119
I don't agree with you much, but above rant, I must say, I can get behind.

Especially this part:

Shake off the self-pity, grow up, and learn to accept that risk, loss, and creative destruction are just as much part of capitalism as reward, gain, and success.  You don't get one without the other.  Your parents should be slapped for failing to teach you that key life lesson.

This should also be told to our beloved banking elite, btw. No more "too big to fail", "too big to jail",...

Let's see how shit goes down this time around in Europe. Seems bail-outs might be back because Italy doesn't want it's bank-owning populous to suffer and is just going to ignore anti-bailout regulations.

Another Espresso, per favore. Europe on the brink...


I have him ignored, but I did not invest into that turd even after being approached by DT. I agree if you invest into risky stuff be prepared to lose out. I assume Ice was shilling for HF like always, though  Tongue
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
I don't agree with you much, but above rant, I must say, I can get behind.

Especially this part:

Shake off the self-pity, grow up, and learn to accept that risk, loss, and creative destruction are just as much part of capitalism as reward, gain, and success.  You don't get one without the other.  Your parents should be slapped for failing to teach you that key life lesson.

This should also be told to our beloved banking elite, btw. No more "too big to fail", "too big to jail",...

Let's see how shit goes down this time around in Europe. Seems bail-outs might be back because Italy doesn't want it's bank-owning populous to suffer and is just going to ignore anti-bailout regulations.

Another Espresso, per favore. Europe on the brink...
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
I must be misunderstanding this. Can someone clarify? Did DeaDTerra receive more than 22,000 BTC and return less than 500 BTC to shareholders? If this is remotely accurate then why is DeaDTerra  still showing to be a trusted user? Did some good come of this that made people ok with donating to DeaDTerra like a charity?

HashFast fucked us all.

Oh, I am sure that the owners of this made out quite well. 


Frankly sir(s), you have no factual nor rational basis for these accusations.

You are wrong, and the way you went about forming your incorrect, libelous assertions is condemnable.

Do you really believe the Hashfast creditor committee (many of whom don't like Icedrill) could have failed to discover such malfeasance during the expensive, exhaustive two year course of the bankruptcy proceedings?

DT wasn't acting as a "charity."  He was starting an ultra-risky ASIC mining company, which failed to beat the odds despite considerable efforts to the contrary.  We investors knew, or should have known, the risks going in and did our own due diligence accordingly.

You three are such asinine millennial snowflakes.  You think this universe is made by Nerf, and you aren't allowed to lose at anything unless some evil villainous conspiracy is responsible.  You expect DT and Will to have used their magical psychic powers to predict BTC prices would collapse while difficulty exploded. 

Shake off the self-pity, grow up, and learn to accept that risk, loss, and creative destruction are just as much part of capitalism as reward, gain, and success.  You don't get one without the other.  Your parents should be slapped for failing to teach you that key life lesson.

Your conflation of trust and profit is ignorance at its most obnoxious; the former is a priori but the latter is a posteriori.

Please learn the difference before you start gossiping nonsense about events and people you know nothing about, save your parroting of uncharitable previously refunted innuendo and regurgitation of the hivemind's mob mentality.

So much entitlement, so little time.  I know a risk-free existence is part of the Free Shit Army manifesto, but that's not how the real world works.   Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1119
I must be misunderstanding this. Can someone clarify? Did DeaDTerra receive more than 22,000 BTC and return less than 500 BTC to shareholders? If this is remotely accurate then why is DeaDTerra  still showing to be a trusted user? Did some good come of this that made people ok with donating to DeaDTerra like a charity?

HashFast fucked us all.

Oh, I am sure that the owners of this made out quite well. 
legendary
Activity: 2786
Merit: 1031
I must be misunderstanding this. Can someone clarify? Did DeaDTerra receive more than 22,000 BTC and return less than 500 BTC to shareholders? If this is remotely accurate then why is DeaDTerra  still showing to be a trusted user? Did some good come of this that made people ok with donating to DeaDTerra like a charity?

HashFast fucked us all.
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
I must be misunderstanding this. Can someone clarify? Did DeaDTerra receive more than 22,000 BTC and return less than 500 BTC to shareholders? If this is remotely accurate then why is DeaDTerra  still showing to be a trusted user? Did some good come of this that made people ok with donating to DeaDTerra like a charity?
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
26 BTC are still sitting in the Eligius payout address at https://blockchain.info/address/1J1WB4LxdKwR7Y3cSEYLDbYk16xiHa9ivp

Anybody seen DeadTerra, Will, or the other dude lately?

Are these BTC being held in reserve, or limbo, or just forgotten?

 Huh

You can just monitor that address & watch where some of the the money you have lost is at. The miracle of blogchain technology, our indelible public ledger Smiley
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