Topic: [BitFunder] Ziggap Bitcoin Sales Service - page 3. (Read 24693 times)

Everyone knows his address, actually.  Coingenuity knows his phone number.  Also: Someone on OTC hired a PI that found him.

With the amount of trading that he has done I'm sure several people know his address etc. With the amount that he must owe in total with his BTCJam loan and these investments there must be enough worth chasing him for... although squeezing blood out of a stone is generally a difficult thing.

Personally he owes me about 60BTC through BTCJam, although I'd settle for 30BTC which is what is outstanding on the capital as I'm willing to ignore the interest owed.

Glad you made a profit!  I sorta made a profit too, if I'm counting in USD. 

Who I REALLY feel bad for are the people who had 60+ BTC there.

Caliber

Surround yourself with excelent people

I don't know the community very well yet. I've had solid experiences so far with Jah, bitcQuick, and ASICMINER-PT, BTCINVEST in terms of dividend payouts.

ZigGap was my only disappointment so far, but then I invested blindly so you win some you lose some

Do you have any recommendations in terms of individuals you trust who run assets on bitfunder? Just on a personal level I mean.

Yes, ASICMINER kicks ass, they actually went up quite a bit recently which makes up for the ZigGap stuff in a way =)

Not really.  I don't really do Bitcoin assets much.  ASICMINER seems good, but I don't know them on a personal level.

Ironically, the only one I knew was aethero.   

I don't know the community very well yet. I've had solid experiences so far with Jah, bitcQuick, and ASICMINER-PT, BTCINVEST in terms of dividend payouts.

ZigGap was my only disappointment so far, but then I invested blindly so you win some you lose some

Do you have any recommendations in terms of individuals you trust who run assets on bitfunder? Just on a personal level I mean.

I think it's best to just trade with people you know. 

Also, aethero has always been unstable.  See copumpkin's rating.  The reasons I quit ZigGap:

• Aethero was unstable and often went into rants
• He asked me to do things I wasn't comfortable with, such as go around the Internet and post spam about ZigGap

On an unrelated note this spells the death of the OTC/WOT network. Aethero was one of the most trusted people I've ever heard of.

I guess everyone has their sell-out price. For Aethero, it was a million shares at 0.0001.

Sad.

On an unrelated note this spells the death of the OTC/WOT network. Aethero was one of the most trusted people I've ever heard of.

I guess everyone has their sell-out price. For Aethero, it was a million shares at 0.0001.

Sad.

I sold my debt.  Got just under 50% worth, which is a profit (as BTC went up a lot).

ZigGap is over.

*Chirp* ?

Depends what you mean by a scam.

I'd say majority of companies (including this one) didn't start off with any intention to scam or defraud investors.  Most fail because of gross incompetence.  People believing they can run before they've properly learnt how to walk.  People exaggerating things to sell shares (take a look at OP for this one - he claims a dedicated team of professionals yet soon as problems start he's whining about it being a one-man operation).

As I run a fund that trades, and as the majority of companies are badly run I have no option but to trade in them.  Whilst trading doesn't have the same degree of exposure as investment (I don't EXPECT them to make a profit for me - my profit comes from their investors) I do necessarily have exposure when a company suddenly gos bad (more accurately, when it suddenly becomes visible to everyone that it's bad - most were rotten inside from the start).  I have to manage that risk - which so far I've done OK at.

There's other non-scam businesses out there besides ASIC-MINER.  Most will make a loss for you if you invest long-term, but they'll do so (fairly) honestly if that's any consolation.  And don't forget ASIC-MINER was a gamble when it started - there was a significant chance they'd be late/never to market.  That ASIC-MINER has done so well is largely down to the total incompetence/deceitful behaviour of two of their main rivals.