what is "mine_friendly" and how it works?
Topic: bitHopper: Python Pool Hopper Proxy - page 110. (Read 355689 times)
mine_slush hops on at 0 and off at 10%. My stats are broken atm, what are yours? (efficiency and shares submitted)
Has the 10% figure been arrived at mathematically or is it just someone's best guess? I currently have slush disabled because I can't bear to watch the balance keep going down after leaving.
I was the same way until I figured it out. Make sure that the role for slush is "mine_slush" and not just "mine". Basically what happens is that on rounds less than 10 minutes you make a MASSIVE reward for the number of shares you submit (3-400% efficiency range) and on rounds longer than like 30 minutes you basically get nothing. It works out to between 100-200% efficiency. Been running it for a day myself and I am currently at over 150% efficiency. Believe me, it works.
not exponentially 
mine_slush hops on at 0 and off at 10%. My stats are broken atm, what are yours? (efficiency and shares submitted)
Has the 10% figure been arrived at mathematically or is it just someone's best guess? I currently have slush disabled because I can't bear to watch the balance keep going down after leaving.
Doesn't balance from every pool keep going down after you leave?
mine_slush hops on at 0 and off at 10%. My stats are broken atm, what are yours? (efficiency and shares submitted)
Has the 10% figure been arrived at mathematically or is it just someone's best guess? I currently have slush disabled because I can't bear to watch the balance keep going down after leaving.
Btw. I make more than 170% of expected value, these 0 rounds are just higher variance...
mine_slush hops on at 0 and off at 10%. My stats are broken atm, what are yours? (efficiency and shares submitted)
Has the 10% figure been arrived at mathematically or is it just someone's best guess? I currently have slush disabled because I can't bear to watch the balance keep going down after leaving.
Slush is known to be broken
...and thats why i'd love to get my hands on his algo so i can find the max efficiency hop on/off points accurately.
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Slush is known to be broken
what exactly does mine_slush do? should I be mining them? I seem to be doing well with slush, but I know this could be luck.
Yeha the more I thought about mine_charity the more I thought it was the exact opposite of hopping and could possible lead to eff below 100%, I'm glad someone else did the math.
mine_slush hops on at 0 and off at 10%. My stats are broken atm, what are yours? (efficiency and shares submitted)
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Slush is known to be broken
what exactly does mine_slush do? should I be mining them? I seem to be doing well with slush, but I know this could be luck.
Yeha the more I thought about mine_charity the more I thought it was the exact opposite of hopping and could possible lead to eff below 100%, I'm glad someone else did the math.
Slush is known to be broken
...and thats why i'd love to get my hands on his algo so i can find the max efficiency hop on/off points accurately.
I won't bother with Meni's. All those zeros would have my little macbook air churning for months! Plus I have no idea how to access opencl in R. But pplns might hold a few interesting surprises.
Slush is known to be broken, Meni's scoring claims to be hopping proof though. No worries, it's not that urgent and theoretically you should anyways just find out that it really only gives an expected value of 100%.
@organo:
Do you haveby chance monte carlo sims with prop pools to be hopped and scored (ideally) or at least PPLNS pools as backup_latehop (on backup pools, select the one with the most shares currently)?
Even though I should know better, it still "feels" to bring potentially more output if you jump in on long rounds in these payout methods, as at least scored pays for sure more if you get in late (though you never know when "late" happens).
I wrote the sims from scratch to make 2 and 3d graphs of hop on v hop off v efficiency, so it's not modular. The reason i wrote them was to show that late hop on always reduces efficiency to below 1.0 . No one was following the math and everyone follows charts!
So I could write a sim for pplns to provide a similar graph of hop on v hop off v efficiency if people want one, but for scored pools I'd need the algo for weighting shares and I don't think slush will make that happen in a hurry.
BTW, for me slush pays out well if you start at 0 and leave v early.
@para:
Yeah, I'd actually like to display a more descriptive error like "user.cfg incomplete for [pool], disabling [pool]".
Not at the moment though, but within 24 hours, ok?
@organo:
Do you haveby chance monte carlo sims with prop pools to be hopped and scored (ideally) or at least PPLNS pools as backup_latehop (on backup pools, select the one with the most shares currently)?
Even though I should know better, it still "feels" to bring potentially more output if you jump in on long rounds in these payout methods, as at least scored pays for sure more if you get in late (though you never know when "late" happens).
Yeah, I'd actually like to display a more descriptive error like "user.cfg incomplete for [pool], disabling [pool]".
Not at the moment though, but within 24 hours, ok?
@organo:
Do you haveby chance monte carlo sims with prop pools to be hopped and scored (ideally) or at least PPLNS pools as backup_latehop (on backup pools, select the one with the most shares currently)?
Even though I should know better, it still "feels" to bring potentially more output if you jump in on long rounds in these payout methods, as at least scored pays for sure more if you get in late (though you never know when "late" happens).
I wrote a monte carlo sim for hopping and now we can hopefully put the whole mine_charity thing to bed.
If you hop on at 2 * difficulty, your efficiency never goes over about 0.83.
I'll post chartporn tomorrow and if there are any requests I'll put the sim on github.
If you hop on at 2 * difficulty, your efficiency never goes over about 0.83.
I'll post chartporn tomorrow and if there are any requests I'll put the sim on github.
@sukrim would you mind coding some "removefromlist" filter if username and pass is not found in user.cfg for a certain pool ?
I just removed accidentally some pool credentials and was getting parse error not knowing why. Thanks
I just removed accidentally some pool credentials and was getting parse error not knowing why. Thanks
I plan on adding rejects and last time seen. Whats in the database is the shares for each worker and where they were submitted currently.
You get the total shares submitted (I think including stale/invalid) on the stats page per worker (whatever you enter as "user" in your miner when connecting to bitHopper), that's all currently.
Might be enough if you have one proxy you share with friends, or to see how many shares have been submitted by one machine, but nothing very sophisticated (yet). If you need something specific, feel free to code it in - I doubt though that there will be many developments in this direction in the near future... if you really need these stats you can anyways use a second proxy and if several people want to poolhop, they can all just use local proxys.
Might be enough if you have one proxy you share with friends, or to see how many shares have been submitted by one machine, but nothing very sophisticated (yet). If you need something specific, feel free to code it in - I doubt though that there will be many developments in this direction in the near future... if you really need these stats you can anyways use a second proxy and if several people want to poolhop, they can all just use local proxys.
i don't understand the "individual miner" part though
perhaps he is thinking about separate worker stats instead of miners?
you can use bitcoin-mining-proxy in between miner and hopper proxy for that purpose
so what does this individual miner status show? do the arthor mean per pool? or is there a flexable mining proxy like feature that's built in already.
also what information should you connect to the hopper by? e.g. the username and password
ah ok, connect putting any username (ex: x) and any pass (ex: y)
edit: you will have to provide usernames and passwords for every pool in "user.cfg"
i don't understand the "individual miner" part though
you can use bitcoin-mining-proxy in between miner and hopper proxy for that purpose
so what does this individual miner status show? do the arthor mean per pool? or is there a flexable mining proxy like feature that's built in already.
also what information should you connect to the hopper by? e.g. the username and password
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