bitHopper: Python Pool Hopper Proxy - page 113.

muyoso

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So Sukrim is actively trying to piss off pool operators apparently:

Quote from: Sukrim on July 31, 2011, 12:17:53 AM

Yeah I see, just hopped in again! Kiss

By the way - what is done against people gaming the jackpot by creating (e.g.) 100 accounts and simply running 100 miners on a GPU (not really a problem for GPUs, though I haven't tried with that high numbers) all going at CPU miner speed? I guess that could increase chances to "jack the pot" somewhat significantly and only costs time one to set the whole stuff up once.

Edit:
And hellooo >200GH/s hash rate! Thanks and gratulations to everyone who chooses to mine at massive losses just to make hoppers happy!

from the Triplemining thread:

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=23663.msg414447#msg414447

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Quote from: bitcoindaddy on July 31, 2011, 08:44:35 PM

Care to share the config? json doesn't look like it's working.

Code:

[bitminersunion]
name: bitminersunion.com
url: http://www.bitminersunion.org
mine_address: pool.bitminersunion.org:8341
role: mine
api_address: http://67.249.146.78/stats.php
api_method: re
api_key: 
Shares this round:([ 0-9]+)

user: testuser
pass: testpass

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[bmunion]
name: bitminersunion.org
mine_address: pool.bitminersunion.org:8341
api_address: http://67.249.146.78/stats.php
api_method:re
api_key:this round:([ 0-9]+)

api_strip:''
role:info
url: http://www.bitminersunion.org/
#CHANGE THIS
user: x
pass: x

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Quote from: djex on July 31, 2011, 07:57:10 PM

Yeah I was looking at their site yesterday. It should be hop-able since they have proportional payout but some people were complaining about this and wanted it changed to PPLNS.

More info in his first thread: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=33072.0

Now the question is are the stats delayed or not.

Edit: It seems like the stats are not delayed. Updates on each refresh of the page.

Edit 2: Added it to my pools, so far so good. Going to get the ~40% and monitor the profit to see if it drops any.

Care to share the config? json doesn't look like it's working.

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Just created a Github account and tried to create a pull request, hope it worked out as intended...

pools.cfg would then contain only developer relevant information, no longer some mess to edit in user names + passwords just because some pool now has a different API address.

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Quote from: joulesbeef on July 31, 2011, 07:34:47 PM

http://www.bitminersunion.org/ these guys look hop able
they list their shares anyways.

they havent found a block yet either..

Yeah I was looking at their site yesterday. It should be hop-able since they have proportional payout but some people were complaining about this and wanted it changed to PPLNS.

More info in his first thread: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=33072.0

Now the question is are the stats delayed or not.

Edit: It seems like the stats are not delayed. Updates on each refresh of the page.

Edit 2: Added it to my pools, so far so good. Going to get the ~40% and monitor the profit to see if it drops any.

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moOo

http://www.bitminersunion.org/ these guys look hop able
they list their shares anyways.

they havent found a block yet either..

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moOo

cool; I guess I can tone down the hate a tiny bit. I do like the 8 digit payout. i'll give them another chance anyways.

If they were on fire AND I actually had to urinate, then I guess I WOULD piss on them

doesnt look like it would help us but interesting enough to share.. a daily luck graph.. made by [this guy

click onthe picture in the reddit link too.. it shows more.

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Quote from: djex on July 31, 2011, 06:23:53 PM

So does this mean bclc is safe to mine on now?

Yes and no.

I dont know if they are still delaying stats. If they are, you will still come out ahead on most rounds but efficiency is not going to be fantastic. If they are not delaying stats, then yes its pretty safe to mine on.

Also, the owner of the pool has not been kind to miners. I am going to mine them but constantly keep an eye on whether they are gaming stats or not.

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thanks djex, I was not putting all my attention into this, working now

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Quote from: hawks5999 on July 31, 2011, 06:12:52 PM

Quote from: muyoso on July 31, 2011, 05:09:23 PM

Jine over at bitcoins.lc says that the issue with the json is permanently solved in the new system he is launching tonight. Time will tell. On the upside, 8 figure payments finally. YAY.

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It was me uncommenting a few lines due to the 10m row.
It basically sets the stats to a static value to avoid having to do COUNT(*) against a 10m row's table.

Sorry for that, the issue is permanently solved in the new system and it shouldn't be an issue in the future.

- Jine

See joules? Tongue

I was just manually managing bclc this morning. I probably lost some overnight but it's all working now. I get enough from bclc to make it worth keeping a watch on them. I think jine is probably at a point where fking with hoppers is boring and bclc is big enough that we only benefit him and the 247ers there.

So does this mean bclc is safe to mine on now?

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Quote from: muyoso on July 31, 2011, 05:09:23 PM

Jine over at bitcoins.lc says that the issue with the json is permanently solved in the new system he is launching tonight. Time will tell. On the upside, 8 figure payments finally. YAY.

Quote

It was me uncommenting a few lines due to the 10m row.
It basically sets the stats to a static value to avoid having to do COUNT(*) against a 10m row's table.

Sorry for that, the issue is permanently solved in the new system and it shouldn't be an issue in the future.

- Jine

See joules? Tongue

I was just manually managing bclc this morning. I probably lost some overnight but it's all working now. I get enough from bclc to make it worth keeping a watch on them. I think jine is probably at a point where fking with hoppers is boring and bclc is big enough that we only benefit him and the 247ers there.

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Quote from: paraipan on July 31, 2011, 05:04:05 PM

@djex

ok, I'm into it

edit: it's working for you ? I don't have that much skills to make it work here

Yeah it works fine for me. Did you copy the code I posted and replace the corresponding code in the index.html?

This might help:

Code:

function getName(payload, srv) {
-	return srv['name'];
+	return "" + srv['name'] + "";
}

function getColor(payload, srv) {
	if(payload['servers'][payload['current']]['name'] == srv['name']) {
		return 'yellow';
	}
	if(srv['lag'] == true) {
		return 'red';
	}
-	return undefined;
+	return 'white';
}

Those are the two changes. Then in the pool.cfg for each pool add the line "url: http://pool-url-here.com" without quotes of course.

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Jine over at bitcoins.lc says that the issue with the json is permanently solved in the new system he is launching tonight. Time will tell. On the upside, 8 figure payments finally. YAY.

Quote

It was me uncommenting a few lines due to the 10m row.
It basically sets the stats to a static value to avoid having to do COUNT(*) against a 10m row's table.

Sorry for that, the issue is permanently solved in the new system and it shouldn't be an issue in the future.

- Jine

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@djex

ok, I'm into it

edit: it's working for you ? I don't have that much skills to make it work here

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Quote from: paraipan on July 31, 2011, 07:32:59 AM

Quote from: djex on July 31, 2011, 01:17:33 AM

If any one is interested I made an edit to the index.html so each pool name is a link to its corresponding web address. Makes it easier to visit a pool while reviewing pool stats. The links open in a new tab / window.

Just add the line "url: http://site-address-here.com" to the pool.cfg file for each pool and then change code in the index.html to the code below.

Code:

function getName(payload, srv) {
	return "" + srv['name'] + "";
}

function getColor(payload, srv) {
	if(payload['servers'][payload['current']]['name'] == srv['name']) {
		return 'yellow';
	}
	if(srv['lag'] == true) {
		return 'red';
	}
	return 'white';
}

I will make a pull req. for you if you want.
The code you released is public domain or you transfer copyright to c00w?

Yeah any one can use it. It's just a few edits that's all. If you want to make a pull req go right ahead.

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Looks like bitcoins.lc is faking stats on the json compared to what the website says. Disabled for now.

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Quote from: hawks5999 on July 31, 2011, 02:27:28 PM

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=32664.0

Is this information helpful in optimizing hopping. It's comparable to pident and appears to be somewhat related to the new poclbm-autohop method. Seems we need a missionary to reach out to Grinder. gnaget of course comes to mind. Can we knight him our missionary-ambassador? His conversion is so compelling

But this

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Deepbit and Bitcoins.lc are very good, while Eligius lags far behind. The stats are particularly impressive for bclc, because they announce other pools blocks before the pool that solved it almost 50% of the time. Deepbit announce about 50/50 of their own and other pools blocks first.

basically says that detecting if a pool has found a new block via long polling lag does not work.

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expected payout is not how much you should make for the current block: It is how much you should make for all shares that have been submitted, correctly calculating for difficulty.

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wow, nice info hawks

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