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Topic: bitHopper: Python Pool Hopper Proxy - page 58. (Read 355813 times)

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August 08, 2011, 05:42:45 AM
I am not sure if there is an issue or if I understand the hopping method wrong but why does the actual version stick to one pool (polmine in my case) and does not switch to other pools, even if they have very few roundshares shares and much less compared to the other pools. (<43%)

Tried default and AltSliceScheduler..
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August 08, 2011, 05:24:10 AM
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Latest version.   Happening a lot....  Not just ars, was doing the same for slush earlier as well.
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August 08, 2011, 05:20:47 AM
check your bitcoinpool stats, it was a lie that they don't cut 50%, even with 3% donation

is it possible to save slice in db, so it was remembered between start/stop of bithopper

or how can I disable slicing completely?

I was wrong about bitcoinpool, earning are fine for block 140048 :x
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
August 08, 2011, 04:45:31 AM
Kewl. You can tell from the LP triggers in the output window that a block has been found several seconds before pident or fasthop update. Is this common knowledge and I'm just slow?

Sweet! Chart porn! Will hafta wait till I'm actually awake.

Hey does anyone know if there's a way to force either the default or altslice schedulers to mine somewhere when they really don't wanna? For instance when Deepbit or BTCG are sitting there set to mine_deepbit 1,888,786 shares and 100% is there some way to force them to mine? I tried penalty .01 and every role combination(I think), but they just sit there like dummies.
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Poor impulse control.
August 08, 2011, 04:43:03 AM
Good news everyone! 43% is dead!

We no longer have to hop at 0.43*difficulty!

I haven't been around much lately because I spent the last week running and rewriting 'byteHopper', a multiple pool hopping simulator. When when I got results I didn't want, I rewrote it from scratch. Three times.

Although I made it run faster each time the results are the same, and the cumulative distribution functions follow real world bitcoin results. So I'm finally happy with the results it gives.

I'm only posting a summary here and I'll get around to making blog posts on hoppersden to give more detail, but the gist of it is: If there are 3 or more hoppable pools, you can stay on pools as long as you want and still get the same long term reward as if you hopped on 0.43, but without needing backup and without pissing pool operators as much. Keep in mind that this is not a claim about one particular round, but over, say, 100000 rounds (which I used for the graphs below).

Of course in any given round, after total shares=diff, your shares are worth less than one. But over time the shorter rounds make up for it. Even with only 3 Prop and backup, your efficiency will always be about 1.83, unless you hop off *too soon*. With ten other pools you get about 250% over PPS - sound familiar?

tl;dr BOLD CLAIM: As long as you always hop to the pool with the lowest shares - regardless of hashspeed - you don't need to hop to backup at 0.43.

The ran up some quick graphs which show byteHopper results up to hopping at 3*diff for 0 other pools (ie one proportional pools and one PPS), 1 other pools, 3 other pools and 5 other pools, all plus pps when needed. '0 other pools' mean the same as Raulo's example, and gives the same results as his equation.

 This is basically not 'hopping' much at all. PPS only really has positive effect if you hop only one or two other pools.

                 
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August 08, 2011, 04:10:07 AM
check your bitcoinpool stats, it was a lie that they don't cut 50%, even with 3% donation

is it possible to save slice in db, so it was remembered between start/stop of bithopper

or how can I disable slicing completely?

I just checked my submitted shares percentage of total shares and it still matches up with my estimated rewards.

check previous round, how many total shares?

I wasnt in on the previous round so can only look at my current round shares compared to total share = estimate

That matches up, unless bitcoinpool makes 50% share value at round end which would be weird cause they usually decrease value of shares on the spot.
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August 08, 2011, 03:46:13 AM
check your bitcoinpool stats, it was a lie that they don't cut 50%, even with 3% donation

is it possible to save slice in db, so it was remembered between start/stop of bithopper

or how can I disable slicing completely?

I just checked my submitted shares percentage of total shares and it still matches up with my estimated rewards.

check previous round, how many total shares?
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Activity: 504
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August 08, 2011, 03:31:16 AM
check your bitcoinpool stats, it was a lie that they don't cut 50%, even with 3% donation

is it possible to save slice in db, so it was remembered between start/stop of bithopper

or how can I disable slicing completely?

I just checked my submitted shares percentage of total shares and it still matches up with my estimated rewards.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1006
August 08, 2011, 03:27:01 AM
What miners do you guys use?    Using AOCLBF at the mo but considering giving Cgminer a look.

I'd really like to get off phatk to avoid the CPU hogging bug, but it's just way faster for me.  There's probably something I'm missing somewhere though.
aoclbf.

i like the auto-restart feature though.
guiminer doesn't have anything like that.

i kinda miss some functions from guiminer though.
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August 08, 2011, 02:22:04 AM
Hmm I keep getting a spam of api errors for ninjacoin pool and it's killing my bithopper. It happens after about 30 - 45 min of running.

I had the same with another pool, had to go to work so couldn't find out what.
It started scrolling with errors. Restarted it but doesn't feel safe Tongue
Lucky I have a backup setup in case of an emergency Tongue

I'll have a look at it later, maybe back to an older version, worked whole night for me (It's 9:22 in the morning over here).
sr. member
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moOo
August 08, 2011, 02:20:05 AM
I use guiminer using phoenix with phatk2.1. i've played with AOCLBF, phoenix and poclbm. I'm just used to guiminer. Poclbm is giving me miner idle errors right now right after each share sumitted. Dont know how much that effects me as it goes right back up to speed
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August 08, 2011, 02:10:12 AM
What miners do you guys use?    Using AOCLBF at the mo but considering giving Cgminer a look.

I'd really like to get off phatk to avoid the CPU hogging bug, but it's just way faster for me.  There's probably something I'm missing somewhere though.
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August 08, 2011, 02:06:29 AM
can you post a debug log? I just disabled ninjaex because it was bugging me. Also update to tip. I had some nasty bugs with api polling times during errors.

I disabled ninjac and hopefully that will work. I'm going to head to bed, we shall see how it is in the morning Tongue If it's still doing it tomarrow I'll post a debug log for sure.
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moOo
August 08, 2011, 02:04:16 AM
pident just gave the block to deepbit Sad
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August 08, 2011, 02:02:04 AM
can you post a debug log? I just disabled ninjaex because it was bugging me. Also update to tip. I had some nasty bugs with api polling times during errors.
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August 08, 2011, 01:59:05 AM
Hmm I keep getting a spam of api errors for ninjacoin pool and it's killing my bithopper. It happens after about 30 - 45 min of running.
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August 08, 2011, 01:57:46 AM
and where do you magically getting irc confirmations?

they have a bot in there irc chan where you can check for blocks that the pool solved..and the two blocks wasn't them..
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August 08, 2011, 01:48:24 AM
check your bitcoinpool stats, it was a lie that they don't cut 50%



My stats seem to marry up with what Bithopper is telling me so far...

EDIT: That said though, on the site it indicates you've been present less than 50% of the round, and that's when they slug you, right?  Do you have a donation set?
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moOo
August 08, 2011, 01:41:59 AM
pool stats show no shares for the big block.. i dont trust them yet. irc.. ok you got me there..

c0000000000ww

same thing happened on the newest version or c00w-bitHopper-v0.1.3-19-g52db110...the disconnect and too many args thing.. had  a nice debug
output for ya on my clipboard but then decided to copy your file name so you would know i was on the latest.

anyways is there a way to output debug to file?

crap I will redo it in the more when i can watch

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August 08, 2011, 01:41:41 AM
why you think it wsnt ozco? everyone's shares reset and pident has a block at the same time they predict might be ozco  ..even if they give it lo confidence

because I checked at pool stats and irc..

poolstats and irc? what exactly do you mean by that lol.

Poolstats isnt updating on ozcoin(after the 10mil block the stats broke), and where do you magically getting irc confirmations?
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