Topic: Bitmain Announces the Antminer R4 and APW5 Power Supply, Designed for Silence - page 43. (Read 84827 times)

I'm on GMT and its 15:40 and its still not listed on their site.

https://enshop.bitmain.com/products/antminer-r4-silent-bitcoin-miner.html


11 PM GMT+8
3 PM GMT
11 AM US Eastern Time
8 AM US Pacific Time

About 50 minutes I think.

So what time does it go on sale in the US? I can't figure out exactly.

Though price is a bit high, I see a lot of potential in this ASIC. I think that it will very soon be out of stocks !

I need to check on stock, but I can put together some $70 server PSU (DPS800) kits to power these. Won't be whisper quiet of course but it'd work fine on 120V. Looks like I might end up with one or two hosted so it'll be fun to actually see one in action soon.

Maybe maybe not.

Still not listed.  I think it lists in about an hour.

Nice ! Will it ROI ?

PPC is a different coin that uses sha256  but it is not better to mine then btc  for a while it was.

No this is for SHA256 algorithms.

Can we mine altcoin through this miner as i am new to this mining field, and what percentage of hashpower will it use to mine the altcoin and what about the software to mine it. and what algorithm will it use to mine the altcoin. If any one can help me with the spec of this miner.

Bitmain WANs us to focus on the $1000 r4? 

Well, it looks like with the announcement of the R4, all of the S7 and S7-LN products are no longer listed.

I got a feeling it won't be sold without a PSU for warranty reason. For what ever warranty's they do honor .

How i came up with a 1000 $ per miner was i looked up the price of the S9 then divided that by 12.93 th and got about 123.xxxx  for the price per th and multiplied 8.45 by 123.xxx, that came to about 1089 or so .
but it's all guessing till they go on sell in a few hours.

Eth is not hard, to set up at all, in fact, I like it more then setting up a antminer which can be a bear some times, because, i try to do more, then i need to .

i read it more seems you won't be forced to by there PSU ...

Optional Custom-built PSU for Further Noise Reduction

Yeah I will even though I am nearing max power for my house.

so who plans on getting some r4's tommrow , i have some customers ordering and drop shipping them to me for hosting tomorrow

my friend  you don't understand what a cartel is . or maybe you don't believe that

china practices an asic cartel like opec used to do with oil.

there is zero doubt that difficulty is controlled by china.  If you don't see it I am sorry.

BTW I am not against them doing it.  I would do the same as they are doing with one exception my warranty would be 1 year and I would charge more for the gear.

To me the only mistake I see them doing is giving terrible service on 90 day warranties which encourage miners to mine GPU coin and convert to btc.

Maybe they think it is a good move for them to do.


Okay forget what I just wrote.  I will ask this of you?

Do you think bitmaintech can build 45,000 s-9's?  they have over   40,000 in btc in one of their  main accounts.

Why not build 40,000 and self mine ?   Here is why 40,000 s-9's are about 520ph.  If they build them and self mine will they make a lot of money no and here is why the diff would jump from  220 to 290 maybe more like 310.
So here is their account     I paid to this address 1AT1AWEYK1VP5it5347b61nh7KseA3ESjo


https://blockchain.info/address/1AT1AWEYK1VP5it5347b61nh7KseA3ESjo

which went here

https://blockchain.info/address/1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V  45,900 coins  about 26,000,000
usd

that money mostly sits  with a few withdrawals here and there.  They can build 10,000 20,000 s-9's easy and self mine they don't

thats because they would be mining against their own gear.  they limit difficulty growth.

When a rival shows up and sells something good they bring the extra hash power  and beat back the competition .

So rathe then calling them out to a hash fight the lesser companies don't push gear against them been going on for years.  Last company was sp-tech and spoondoolies got crushed in a price war.

once again It works for them  and I just think they need to do a better warranty plan to be truly smart .

Mining is subject to economics like everything else. Why do you think home mining is dead?

It doesn't make sense economically to shut down your miners to manipulate difficulty.

Certainly risks with ASICs too.  They are hardly foolproof.  But I have to believe noobs are attracted to mining by bitcoin first.
The world of alts currencies open up when they realize how hard it is to make anything on btc.  Of course there is no easy money anywhere right now.

So, what is the price on this, anybody knows?
I see $1000 and i see $1300 (or maybe $1300 is with PSU).
I don't care about PSU, and will definetly not pay $1300 for a 8.6Th miner.

If they try this, i see a benefit of pushing used S7 prices way up (to $450-500 territory).

@Swimmer63

eth-not really that challenging. There is a learning curve, but not a very steep one.
I am sure a lot of newbs burn antminers in the first few minutes. I remember setting up a first S1. Oh, boy!