Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) - page 16.

teskostecenje

member

Activity: 154

Merit: 10

Quote from: adaseb on April 18, 2018, 02:30:53 PM

Quote from: siampumpkin on April 16, 2018, 11:49:38 PM

Does anyone know anything about the hardware in these miners? Do they have ram for the DAG file? How are they sharing the DAG information across all the asics? If anyone knows I would appreciate the info. Huh

We are actually all curious about this.

However they have posted no photos of what the inside hash board look like so we have no idea if they just took some RX 470 GPUs and stuffed them in a tiny box or if it has regular DDR3 ram with an FGPA to do the processing.

I am guessing these products aren't even built yet and they are manufacturing them right now.

Since they don't ship until July

You really dont think that they have some amount of those asics already mining for them and just stockpyling them untill they can ship complete batch?There were rumors about those asics for months already and bitmain have 2 more months before shiping....

adaseb

legendary

Activity: 3808

Merit: 1723

Quote from: siampumpkin on April 16, 2018, 11:49:38 PM

Does anyone know anything about the hardware in these miners? Do they have ram for the DAG file? How are they sharing the DAG information across all the asics? If anyone knows I would appreciate the info. Huh

We are actually all curious about this.

However they have posted no photos of what the inside hash board look like so we have no idea if they just took some RX 470 GPUs and stuffed them in a tiny box or if it has regular DDR3 ram with an FGPA to do the processing.

I am guessing these products aren't even built yet and they are manufacturing them right now.

Since they don't ship until July

Metroid

sr. member

Activity: 2142

Merit: 353

Xtreme Monster

Quote from: heavyarms1912 on April 17, 2018, 12:48:47 PM

Quote from: steve666 on April 17, 2018, 01:33:02 AM

They're chinese, they can do anything for money...

Who doesn't?

Whoever has values.

sjyi

jr. member

Activity: 182

Merit: 1

Quote from: steve666 on April 17, 2018, 01:33:02 AM

...
However anyone could done this, but who needs to project a circle from scratch, when you have a bunch of ready to use and P&P stuff, it shows how far desperated they are in earning money and how much they already gathered so they can make such a device without rising and funding all that industrial network which is needed to build up a working PC - they just buy from them RAM, GPU, CPU and thats it, only need to make your own board which is easy as fucking with all that datasheets they have.

They're chinese, they can do anything for money...[/b]

If it's that easy to build an equivalent competing device, why not release it and beat them at their own game? Even their competitor Panda, can't seem to build a better device.

It is so ironic how many people complain about others what others will do for money, but they themselves resell what Chinese manufacture for them to get money for themselves.

heavyarms1912

full member

Activity: 729

Merit: 114

Quote from: steve666 on April 17, 2018, 01:33:02 AM

They're chinese, they can do anything for money...

Who doesn't?

steve666

newbie

Activity: 41

Merit: 0

I bet that this thing will be just build-in modified GPU and RAM boards running on some custom micro motherboard with premade OS that make it looks like ASIC but acts like any other PC with GPU's mounted.

However anyone could done this, but who needs to project a circle from scratch, when you have a bunch of ready to use and P&P stuff, it shows how far desperated they are in earning money and how much they already gathered so they can make such a device without rising and funding all that industrial network which is needed to build up a working PC - they just buy from them RAM, GPU, CPU and thats it, only need to make your own board which is easy as fucking with all that datasheets they have.

They're chinese, they can do anything for money...

siampumpkin

sr. member

Activity: 420

Merit: 260

Does anyone know anything about the hardware in these miners? Do they have ram for the DAG file? How are they sharing the DAG information across all the asics? If anyone knows I would appreciate the info. Huh

teskostecenje

member

Activity: 154

Merit: 10

Quote from: cryptolopoly on April 16, 2018, 04:05:57 AM

Quote from: cuteman on April 15, 2018, 04:38:23 PM

Got email from PandaMiner claiming they outperform E3

----------------------
Dear miners:

Now PandaMiner have made the price adjustment, the cost exceed the ASIC E3. According to the comparison:

One more point, we support delivery in 7 working days, while E3 requires 3 month. Miners can gain a lot of mining profits during 3 month.

Price: $2508 per unit(PSU and shipping cost included)
Model：PandaMiner B3 Pro
GPU: AMD RX 470*8 cards
Delivery: 7 working days
Limited amount: 1000 units

Do not buy panda miners. They didn't tell you about the HIGHER power consumption.

That panda miner consumes about 1300W while bitmain's E3 consumes only 800W (and maybe even less when it is actually shipped). There is no logic at all in buying more expensive hardware that earns less money.

Dont forget that they also screwed over their customers last spring when ethereum mining was heating up and there was the begining of gpus shortage,people paid in advance and never got those miners(later on they offered slower miners with rx550 or 560 gpus i forgot)Afaik they took payments in btc but gave $ in return when it turned out to be imposible to deliver and at that time btc was going up in price

greyday

member

Activity: 434

Merit: 52

Quote from: siampumpkin on April 16, 2018, 04:21:45 AM

Quote from: cryptolopoly on April 16, 2018, 04:05:57 AM

Quote from: cuteman on April 15, 2018, 04:38:23 PM

Got email from PandaMiner claiming they outperform E3

----------------------
Dear miners:

Now PandaMiner have made the price adjustment, the cost exceed the ASIC E3. According to the comparison:

One more point, we support delivery in 7 working days, while E3 requires 3 month. Miners can gain a lot of mining profits during 3 month.

Price: $2508 per unit(PSU and shipping cost included)
Model：PandaMiner B3 Pro
GPU: AMD RX 470*8 cards
Delivery: 7 working days
Limited amount: 1000 units

Do not buy panda miners. They didn't tell you about the HIGHER power consumption.

That panda miner consumes about 1300W while bitmain's E3 consumes only 800W (and maybe even less when it is actually shipped). There is no logic at all in buying more expensive hardware that earns less money.

I don't think it is wise to buy either of the miners. Either they will be forked out or the companies will delivery defective & used equipment as they frequently do.

Either way, the power consumption on 470s vs even just spending that money on 580 cards, a mobo/cpu/psu/ram, and risers? I'd go the latter every time, my 580s get the same hashrate as the E3 is advertised to and clocks in at about 720W +/- 10%...

siampumpkin

sr. member

Activity: 420

Merit: 260

Quote from: cryptolopoly on April 16, 2018, 04:05:57 AM

Quote from: cuteman on April 15, 2018, 04:38:23 PM

Got email from PandaMiner claiming they outperform E3

----------------------
Dear miners:

Now PandaMiner have made the price adjustment, the cost exceed the ASIC E3. According to the comparison:

One more point, we support delivery in 7 working days, while E3 requires 3 month. Miners can gain a lot of mining profits during 3 month.

Price: $2508 per unit(PSU and shipping cost included)
Model：PandaMiner B3 Pro
GPU: AMD RX 470*8 cards
Delivery: 7 working days
Limited amount: 1000 units

Do not buy panda miners. They didn't tell you about the HIGHER power consumption.

That panda miner consumes about 1300W while bitmain's E3 consumes only 800W (and maybe even less when it is actually shipped). There is no logic at all in buying more expensive hardware that earns less money.

I don't think it is wise to buy either of the miners. Either they will be forked out or the companies will delivery defective & used equipment as they frequently do.

cryptolopoly

jr. member

Activity: 37

Merit: 1

Quote from: cuteman on April 15, 2018, 04:38:23 PM

Got email from PandaMiner claiming they outperform E3

----------------------
Dear miners:

Now PandaMiner have made the price adjustment, the cost exceed the ASIC E3. According to the comparison:

One more point, we support delivery in 7 working days, while E3 requires 3 month. Miners can gain a lot of mining profits during 3 month.

Price: $2508 per unit(PSU and shipping cost included)
Model：PandaMiner B3 Pro
GPU: AMD RX 470*8 cards
Delivery: 7 working days
Limited amount: 1000 units

Do not buy panda miners. They didn't tell you about the HIGHER power consumption.

That panda miner consumes about 1300W while bitmain's E3 consumes only 800W (and maybe even less when it is actually shipped). There is no logic at all in buying more expensive hardware that earns less money.

suchmoon

legendary

Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: Sandal_Hat on April 15, 2018, 06:35:30 PM

Quote from: cuteman on April 15, 2018, 04:33:46 PM

Bitmain Pushes Ethereum ASIC Release to July, Citing Disappointing Performance

Bitmain's new ASIC for Ethereum will only be released after July due to some initial problems with the chip's performance that the company hopes to address before shipping it to customers.

Industry sources also note that the chip is being manufactured using the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company’s 28-nanometer architecture.

This may explain why the Antminer E3 barely has a higher mining efficiency than a Radeon Rx 480 graphics card rig. To help clarify what we mean, the Antminer E3 is advertised at 180 megahashes per second with an 800-watt nominal power consumption. In contrast, a rig with six Radeon Rx 480 cards will produce 150 megahashes per second with a 900-watt nominal power consumption, and it’s hardly the most efficient GPU out there.

Hmmmm and people were saying that they were mining with these for awhile?

This is just a copy-paste without reference so I wouldn't pay too much attention to that. The delivery date was always July. The original article seems to be confused saying that the E3 was promised to be delivered in April.

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20180410PD210.html

Sandal_Hat

full member

Activity: 462

Merit: 118

Quote from: cuteman on April 15, 2018, 04:33:46 PM

Bitmain Pushes Ethereum ASIC Release to July, Citing Disappointing Performance

Bitmain's new ASIC for Ethereum will only be released after July due to some initial problems with the chip's performance that the company hopes to address before shipping it to customers.

Industry sources also note that the chip is being manufactured using the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company’s 28-nanometer architecture.

This may explain why the Antminer E3 barely has a higher mining efficiency than a Radeon Rx 480 graphics card rig. To help clarify what we mean, the Antminer E3 is advertised at 180 megahashes per second with an 800-watt nominal power consumption. In contrast, a rig with six Radeon Rx 480 cards will produce 150 megahashes per second with a 900-watt nominal power consumption, and it’s hardly the most efficient GPU out there.

Hmmmm and people were saying that they were mining with these for awhile?

dnssandbox

jr. member

Activity: 57

Merit: 5

Quote from: HagssFIN on April 15, 2018, 04:55:07 PM

Quote from: cuteman on April 15, 2018, 04:38:23 PM

Got email from PandaMiner claiming they outperform E3

----------------------
Dear miners:

Now PandaMiner have made the price adjustment, the cost exceed the ASIC E3. According to the comparison:

One more point, we support delivery in 7 working days, while E3 requires 3 month. Miners can gain a lot of mining profits during 3 month.

Price: $2508 per unit(PSU and shipping cost included)
Model：PandaMiner B3 Pro
GPU: AMD RX 470*8 cards
Delivery: 7 working days
Limited amount: 1000 units

Batch 1 E3 miners were much cheaper than the Pandaminer,
and 180Mh/s & 800W are not the final numbers as Bitmain has mentioned before.

Also Pandaminers have had a lot of quality issues in the past.

^ This..

I expect the hash rate will be much higher when it is released. I never expected it was ever going to be 180Mh/s. After the original announcement, I figured released product would be 200-220 Mh/s.

Now, considering other manufacturers are releasing a competing product, the fact that the Bitmain product won't be released until July, plus the fact that they have been slowing raising the price, it might even be in the 230-250 range.

I don't think Bitmain is going to release a first batch product after another manufacturer releases one, and have the Bitmain product not perform as well or better.

HagssFIN

legendary

Activity: 2506

Merit: 1714

Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.

Quote from: cuteman on April 15, 2018, 04:38:23 PM

Got email from PandaMiner claiming they outperform E3

----------------------
Dear miners:

Now PandaMiner have made the price adjustment, the cost exceed the ASIC E3. According to the comparison:

One more point, we support delivery in 7 working days, while E3 requires 3 month. Miners can gain a lot of mining profits during 3 month.

Price: $2508 per unit(PSU and shipping cost included)
Model：PandaMiner B3 Pro
GPU: AMD RX 470*8 cards
Delivery: 7 working days
Limited amount: 1000 units

Batch 1 E3 miners were much cheaper than the Pandaminer,
and 180Mh/s & 800W are not the final numbers as Bitmain has mentioned before.

Also Pandaminers have had a lot of quality issues in the past.

cuteman

full member

Activity: 392

Merit: 102

Got email from PandaMiner claiming they outperform E3

----------------------
Dear miners:

Now PandaMiner have made the price adjustment, the cost exceed the ASIC E3. According to the comparison:

One more point, we support delivery in 7 working days, while E3 requires 3 month. Miners can gain a lot of mining profits during 3 month.

Price: $2508 per unit(PSU and shipping cost included)
Model：PandaMiner B3 Pro
GPU: AMD RX 470*8 cards
Delivery: 7 working days
Limited amount: 1000 units

cuteman

full member

Activity: 392

Merit: 102

Bitmain Pushes Ethereum ASIC Release to July, Citing Disappointing Performance

Bitmain's new ASIC for Ethereum will only be released after July due to some initial problems with the chip's performance that the company hopes to address before shipping it to customers.

Industry sources also note that the chip is being manufactured using the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company’s 28-nanometer architecture.

This may explain why the Antminer E3 barely has a higher mining efficiency than a Radeon Rx 480 graphics card rig. To help clarify what we mean, the Antminer E3 is advertised at 180 megahashes per second with an 800-watt nominal power consumption. In contrast, a rig with six Radeon Rx 480 cards will produce 150 megahashes per second with a 900-watt nominal power consumption, and it’s hardly the most efficient GPU out there.

Longsnowsm

hero member

Activity: 868

Merit: 517

Over 2k now per unit and climbing with the price of crypto... Making those that jumped in on batch 1 at $800 feel pretty good about that gamble.

madmartyk

legendary

Activity: 2702

Merit: 1030

Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!

Quote from: siampumpkin on April 15, 2018, 01:30:06 PM

Quote from: madmartyk on April 15, 2018, 09:26:33 AM

Quote from: HagssFIN on April 15, 2018, 08:04:00 AM

@siampumpkin
I bought one unit when the price was $800USD per unit.

I'm just curious to see this machine and also what's inside it.

Same here

Looking forward to you posting some pics when you get it. Curious to see what is inside also. Roll Eyes

Well you have 2 months to wait, unless they ship them early.

siampumpkin

sr. member

Activity: 420

Merit: 260

Quote from: madmartyk on April 15, 2018, 09:26:33 AM

Quote from: HagssFIN on April 15, 2018, 08:04:00 AM

@siampumpkin
I bought one unit when the price was $800USD per unit.

I'm just curious to see this machine and also what's inside it.

Same here

Looking forward to you posting some pics when you get it. Curious to see what is inside also. Roll Eyes

Topic: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) - page 16. (Read 16420 times)