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Topic: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 - page 288. (Read 299688 times)

legendary
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If Litecoin increases its price, perhaps the L3 is interesting  Roll Eyes
The difficulty of the hash rate is increasing at a far faster pace. It is easily negating the value of the increase in the coin. The larger release of the units hasn't even hit the pools yet. LTC profitability is down almost 50% already from the stated highs. That will get much much worse.

 But it's a TON higher than it was up to the bit price runup, despite the recent hashrate/diff jumps.

 I came VERY close to shutting down my A2 units late last winter because they were very marginal on profitability DESPITE my low electric cost, and I was contemplating adding "more efficient" rigs in their place.
 Right now, they're bloody near my MOST profitable current rigs (though keep in mind I don't build riser-GPU rigs so all my GPU rigs are 3-card).

 They also cost me ballpark HALF what most of my recent GPU rigs have cost me, and are long since paid off....


 X11 total network hashrate IIRC is quite a bit lower as a "number of D3 units" basis than Scrypt is on a "number of L3+ or A4 units" basis - it'll probably be longer before Scrypt profitability drops to "last year" levels for an L3+ then it will be for a D3, especially with *3* folks making big X11 units now (and who knows what Baikal will come up with to replace their current chip with).

 One kicker in the deck - BW.COM and their Scrypt miner, which is CLAIMED to be 28nm therefore quite a bit cheaper to design and make than 14/16nm that the L3+ and A4 seems to be based on, AND a lot easier to get chips for.
 If BW.COM starts making and/or selling a serious number of THOSE miners, all bets are off.

 Scary part - it's specs are better than the A4 and VERY CLOSE on efficiency AND hashrate to the L3+.
 Perhaps THIS unit is why Bitmain cut L3+ pricing?


 On the other hand, BW.COM had announced plans at one point to sell their Bitcoin miners, then ended up either not doing so or ONLY selling them in bulk to large farms.....

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I am soo nervous about catching the next D3 batch. If I miss it again I'll have to wait for L4 or whatever miner.

If the next D3 batch has later shipping dates than the first 2 then I can see bitmain cutting the prices significaly like they did with the L3+

IMHO I think if you are in the September batch, you will probably be OK. Don't forget all the new X11 ASICs coming on the market around the same time. Dash difficulty already jumped 100%+ during July and will only continue to increase.
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I am soo nervous about catching the next D3 batch. If I miss it again I'll have to wait for L4 or whatever miner.

If the next D3 batch has later shipping dates than the first 2 then I can see bitmain cutting the prices significaly like they did with the L3+
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If Litecoin increases its price, perhaps the L3 is interesting  Roll Eyes
The difficulty of the hash rate is increasing at a far faster pace. It is easily negating the value of the increase in the coin. The larger release of the units hasn't even hit the pools yet. LTC profitability is down almost 50% already from the stated highs. That will get much much worse.
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If Litecoin increases its price, perhaps the L3 is interesting  Roll Eyes
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Comparison b/n D3 and L3+?  ROI wise, seems obvious D3 is winner.  Any reason to buy L3+?

Depends on how soon you can get either one. L3+ has already sold several batches, and D3 only a few. If you can get a D3 ordered in the next batch then it would be better than getting an L3+ in the next batch.
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Comparison b/n D3 and L3+?  ROI wise, seems obvious D3 is winner.  Any reason to buy L3+?

Not right now, it's too late.

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Comparison b/n D3 and L3+?  ROI wise, seems obvious D3 is winner.  Any reason to buy L3+?
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Difficulty will reach 10M really fast. However price won't go below 100$.

A realistic calculation would be with difficulties:

2M for Sept
6M in October
9M in November

Price between 150-230$us


I see....you're so good you can guarantee us that "price won't go below $100.00". That's just ridiculous. I agree with your calculations on difficulty. It's pure hubris to make definitive claims about the price of the asset. Any asset.
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Difficulty will reach 10M really fast. However price won't go below 100$.

A realistic calculation would be with difficulties:

2M for Sept
6M in October
9M in November

Price between 150-230$us

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Can please anyone tell me, why people buy D3, if there is A5?

Price...you can get 3 D3's for 300 bucks over 10k of 45gh

an A5 you can get 30gh for 10k I think their price is

my 2nd batch (ONE) D3 I got will arrive between Sept 18th and the 28th

A5 will arrive around the end of that month as well....

I myself think with the giant and I mean giant slam up in X11 difficulty...my miner will likely do the old 12-14 month ROI

in the 'plateau' after this full tidal wave of difficulty 'crashes thru' into December.

If it does better than that ...cool...but my expectations are very Modest.

Again this was on the 2nd batch D3 units at (again only got the ONE for above reasons on difficulty) as to a D3 offered to say

to hit the world middle of October after the A5's hit...er....not going there.

anyway, chump or champ we will know by end of December if any of this X11 stuff made any sense Smiley

(crypto: always drama) Smiley




I just made a spread sheet with various difficulty levels versus underlying coin price. My "worst case " for DASH is; 3m difficulty with DASH price at $50.00 and  .10Kw electricity. =$2,867.00 revenue per year. So that's your 1 year ROI/breakeven. Pretty ugly scenario to say the least but overall encouraging.

3m diff is a conservative guess IMO, I think it will be higher than this, sooner than you think Tongue
Yes I do too. If price remains high I use 10m in my calculations. I'm using 3m at a $50.00 DASH coin price. That would be a pretty nasty crash from $179.00.
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Yeah I think Searing is a bit pessimistic :p
Actually I tend to agree with his worst case scenario and I have no problem seeing DASH difficulty at 3m with a potential coin price of $50.00. If that does happen, it will not likely be overnight. It will take time and I feel strongly that you will pay off your hardware before this nightmare becomes reality.
sr. member
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Can please anyone tell me, why people buy D3, if there is A5?

Price...you can get 3 D3's for 300 bucks over 10k of 45gh

an A5 you can get 30gh for 10k I think their price is

my 2nd batch (ONE) D3 I got will arrive between Sept 18th and the 28th

A5 will arrive around the end of that month as well....

I myself think with the giant and I mean giant slam up in X11 difficulty...my miner will likely do the old 12-14 month ROI

in the 'plateau' after this full tidal wave of difficulty 'crashes thru' into December.

If it does better than that ...cool...but my expectations are very Modest.

Again this was on the 2nd batch D3 units at (again only got the ONE for above reasons on difficulty) as to a D3 offered to say

to hit the world middle of October after the A5's hit...er....not going there.

anyway, chump or champ we will know by end of December if any of this X11 stuff made any sense Smiley

(crypto: always drama) Smiley




I just made a spread sheet with various difficulty levels versus underlying coin price. My "worst case " for DASH is; 3m difficulty with DASH price at $50.00 and  .10Kw electricity. =$2,867.00 revenue per year. So that's your 1 year ROI/breakeven. Pretty ugly scenario to say the least but overall encouraging.

3m diff is a conservative guess IMO, I think it will be higher than this, sooner than you think Tongue
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Yeah I think Searing is a bit pessimistic :p
full member
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Merit: 110
Can please anyone tell me, why people buy D3, if there is A5?

Price...you can get 3 D3's for 300 bucks over 10k of 45gh

an A5 you can get 30gh for 10k I think their price is

my 2nd batch (ONE) D3 I got will arrive between Sept 18th and the 28th

A5 will arrive around the end of that month as well....

I myself think with the giant and I mean giant slam up in X11 difficulty...my miner will likely do the old 12-14 month ROI

in the 'plateau' after this full tidal wave of difficulty 'crashes thru' into December.

If it does better than that ...cool...but my expectations are very Modest.

Again this was on the 2nd batch D3 units at (again only got the ONE for above reasons on difficulty) as to a D3 offered to say

to hit the world middle of October after the A5's hit...er....not going there.

anyway, chump or champ we will know by end of December if any of this X11 stuff made any sense Smiley

(crypto: always drama) Smiley




I just made a spread sheet with various difficulty levels versus underlying coin price. My "worst case " for DASH is; 3m difficulty with DASH price at $50.00 and  .10Kw electricity. =$2,867.00 revenue per year. So that's your 1 year ROI/breakeven. Pretty ugly scenario to say the least but overall encouraging.
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Clueless!
Can please anyone tell me, why people buy D3, if there is A5?

Price...you can get 3 D3's for 300 bucks over 10k of 45gh

an A5 you can get 30gh for 10k I think their price is

my 2nd batch (ONE) D3 I got will arrive between Sept 18th and the 28th

A5 will arrive around the end of that month as well....

I myself think with the giant and I mean giant slam up in X11 difficulty...my miner will likely do the old 12-14 month ROI

in the 'plateau' after this full tidal wave of difficulty 'crashes thru' into December.

If it does better than that ...cool...but my expectations are very Modest.

Again this was on the 2nd batch D3 units at (again only got the ONE for above reasons on difficulty) as to a D3 offered to say

to hit the world middle of October after the A5's hit...er....not going there.

anyway, chump or champ we will know by end of December if any of this X11 stuff made any sense Smiley

(crypto: always drama) Smiley



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Can please anyone tell me, why people buy D3, if there is A5?
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Wire tranfer work like fine ...
64h to proceed, get mail by bitmain to validate payment ...
On the site, they "say first to order, first to ship" not first to pay ! 
So i pay in delay maybe i gona take the really first shipment Wink
And i speak with them on facebook, they answer ...


Sorry mate:

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Irene (Bitmain)
Jul 25, 15:37 CST

Dear customer,

We are pleased to inform you that we have will release a new batch of the Antminer D3 miner at this link after 6:30 PM (Beijing time) on July 25, 2017.

The Antminer D3 is Bitmain’s first ASIC miner to mine the X11-algorithm based cryptocurrency DASH.

This batch can deliver a hashrate of 15 GH/s. Because of the high demand and the manufacturing period, shipping for this batch will start after 15th of September 2017 and on a “first paid, first ship” basis. If we advance the shipment, we will notify you.

Please clear cookies in your browser if you’ve log in our original website.
You cannot place an order with more than 50 units of the Antminer D3 on our website. If you want to order more than 50 units, please contact us.

We’ve just updated our official website. For your ease and understanding, we have attached description of the new order and payment process with this email.

If you are using USD wire transfer as the payment method for your order, please leave us a message with the payment proof and your order details at support.bitmain.com within 3 days of submitting your order.

To place your order in time and without issues, we suggest that you add your shipping address to your Bitmain account well before the new batch is released.


When you make an order on the Bitmain website, the system automatically calculates the shipping cost to your address for the products that you have chosen. You will see the shipping cost and can make changes before you confirm your order.

As the stock is limited, we suggest that you confirm your order by payment while stock lasts. For more information on how to place your order please see this article on our website.

We would like you to receive your shipment promptly and so request that you prepare in advance for the customs clearance in your country to avoid delays or even unexpected costs.

Please visit support.bitmain.com if you have additional questions or concerns.

We wish you a very happy mining experience.

Best regards,
The Bitmain team
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Wire tranfer work like fine ...
64h to proceed, get mail by bitmain to validate payment ...
On the site, they "say first to order, first to ship" not first to pay ! 
So i pay in delay maybe i gona take the really first shipment Wink
And i speak with them on facebook, they answer ...
full member
Activity: 233
Merit: 100
Next time i will buy whatever CryptoCurrency you can use and pay with that !

Yeah I'm on the same boat. My first wire transfer took to long to confirm from bitmain and instead of getting a May K3+ they pushed me to July. This time to order the D3 I made my payment LTC waiting for it. The bad thing is here it's hard, because of capital controls (1000euro transfer per month limit) to top up an exchanger. And 3d secure doesn't work for a year now. 3rd world countries man
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