Topic: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 - page 73. (Read 299686 times)

Try to explain these things to Bitmain, its look like they dont know that, Otherwise they will never let Baikalminer enjoy the privilege of being whole sole providers of MultAlgo miners. Don't give us false hope.
You give my answer
Qubit - combination of luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd, and echo. All of these algos are not th part of X11 than, you just prove my point.

No, it means I'm REALLY GLAD I didn't buy one

I think there were a 1,000 ppl on this forum 2-3 months ago predicted that once these 50,000 D3's hit the street that difficulty would skyrocket and profit would go to ZERO, and the thing is like always, the experts were right.

Another thing that was predicted in August 2017 is that bit-coin-Gold is a SCAM, and guess what the experts were right, but the shills are still active,

Hell there are probably shill's for D3's;

Even BITMAIN has taken the D3 off their product list and raised the price of S-9's

IMHO NEVER buy specific single application HW, this what is great about GPU's you can make them do anything, but a D3 is not even a useful boat anchor.

CANNABIS-COIN ( marijuana coin ) is the only X11 crypto that you can mine and pay your power bill

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Seriously I came so close to buying one back in August, so glad it didn't happen


A 1,000 Watts costs me $4/day, exactly how much profit they turn for DASH, trouble is they're a super loud space heater and the wife would not accept the noise. Next month when the 'last' 50,000 are delivered I suspect the profit will be less than $1/day for all X-11 coins.


ASIC CUSTOM Dev Kit for Algo Redeploy on D3
WRT to the assertion of redeploying the micro-code, NADA it has never happened, sure in theory somebody could offer a developer's kit and sell general purpose ASIC box at 20TH that you could pre-compile an algo, but this is NOT in the business model of BITMAIN, they want the same suckers to trash and buy new, providing U all with code would kill their business model.

Except all the x11 coins are worth less than Dash at the present time...thus in this post previously....maybe mine a mess of them and hold ..long odds

but $6.36/day dash and 4 or so of D3's still yet to hit the world and probably an equiv 30gh batches of Innsilicon A5 units to hit also

we could be looking at 20c a day from these after electric Smiley

Does this mean that the D3 will be profitable in the long run since you can mine so many different coins with it and you're not limited to just Dash?  So many bashing the D3 but it seems like a good miner long term.

Well...just to wind this thread back to reality...(and the many toasters we have purchased and/or are coming)

here is today's mining results for x11 dash at 12c kwh for a 17.5gh unit at 950 watts..

Using What to Mine calculator and a variety of x11 coins listed below:


Currently, $6,96/day for Dash.

https://whattomine.com/asic?utf8=%E2%9C%93&factor%5Bsha256_hr%5D=14000.0&factor%5Bsha256_p%5D=1370.0&factor%5Bscrypt_hash_rate%5D=500.0&factor%5Bscrypt_power%5D=800.0&x11f=true&factor%5Bx11_hr%5D=17500&factor%5Bx11_p%5D=1900.0&factor%5Bqk_hr%5D=450.0&factor%5Bqk_p%5D=75.0&factor%5Bqb_hr%5D=450.0&factor%5Bqb_p%5D=84.0&factor%5Bcost%5D=0.12&sort=Profitability24&volume=0&revenue=24h&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=abucoins&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=bitfinex&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=bittrex&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=bleutrade&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=c_cex&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=cryptopia&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=hitbtc&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=poloniex&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=yobit&dataset=Main&commit=Calculate



I still have the feeling..that I should setup the old PC Tower and put a mess of x11 sh*t coin wallets on there..and just multi-mine a crapload of x11 other than dash and hoard...

not that it would do any good but

1) I'd have lots of cryptos that would sound impressive (in my own mind) like I have 1 billion xxx coin..worht $12.83! USD!

2) The odds are NOT as good IMHO for DASH doubling as for some unknown currently overlooked sh*t coin, that probably exists now....(Helium x11, Helium x11..where for art thou!)

3) The tower would keep me busy and occupy my thoughts ...away...from the 'snake oil' salesman of Bitmain.....

Do you know what X11 even is? It is comprised of 11 mining algorithms, with over half being used in other coins.

yep ...you nailed it! I'll bet if they continue with x11 that would be their next step....hell, the D3's they 'slam'd' out to us,  would completely fund such a equip upgrade to a new product

you called it!

why do you need to separate the X11? pick a x11 coin and mine the thing to death, just don't expect to make money on dash.

Please do your own research.

Quark - uses 9 rounds of hashing from 6 DIFFERENT ALGORITHMS all of which are parts of the chained X11 algo- blake, groestl, bmw, jh, keccak, and skein.
Qubit - combination of luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd, and echo.

It's an ASIC period.

To counter you argument, Kindly explain the following,
1. Expalin Quark and Qubit Algos
2. Do you think that Other Manufacturers like Bitmain are so dump to work that out.
Its a FPGA period.

I have no clue what you are saying, everything sounds greek to me. But you know what, you just gave me some hope for the day. Lol, i hope what your saying is true and bitmain does get their developers to cook up a new firmware update for us. Multi algorithm sounds pretty good to me right now. Or this will be one of the worst investment of my life.
I will do my due diligence about what you are saying.

Any recommendations along with granatgas as a pool?  I want to try out different miners and see what works best for my D3's

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Thats what is most likely to happen lol

I dont understand all the buthurt here, I guess mining at razor thing margins since 2013 has hardened me to these type of issues.

Right now 1 D3 makes around $5 a day after .10 cents power cost, even with more hash coming online at $2.50 a day it will stil pay for itself in 14 months at the $1500 I paid with shipping , I suspect I will sell it along time before that

hahah that made me LOL for real, funny bastard

You're not mining LTC in that situation you twit. You're "mining" something else and CONVERTING IT by selling one and buying another at the going spread. As to your other ignorant comment. We DO try and help. But when they so fucking stupid that they buy 50 miners and then come in here asking basic shit, well...then they are beyond hope.

.....Or they just release a whole new miner with these changes and call it D3+ and start the whole dance over again. This is what I think would be more likely based on what we know about our friends at Bitemain.

In a Very short period of time, some other company (Baikal,..) is going to come out with this mining capability.

This makes sense , i suspect thats how Baikal does it

As it seems, many people didn't pay attention to my previous explanation why MULTI ALGORITHM MINING CAN WORK:

X11 is a chained mining algorithm using the following algorithms to compute the final hash result: blake, bmw, groestl, jh, keccak, skein, luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd, and echo.

That means that EACH of those algorithms can be used for mining SEPARATELY. In fact, making them all work together to produce an X11 hash is much, much more difficult than just getting the result of one of them. On an ASIC chip- lets use 28nm for reference- there are thousands of cores. Nearly all of the hashcores do mining, while the remaining small portion handles communication etc. Now, you allot a certain amount of hashcores to do each algorithm. For example, 300 for Keccak and 700 for Groestl (it is more intensive). At the end, you want a balanced hashrate on ALL groups of algorithms (eg; each group does 20GH of their algorithm). If you have 10 out of the 11 algos doing 30 GH but the last one doing 5 GH, your miner will have a final result of 4-5 GH X11 as the slowest performing algorithm becomes the hashrate bottleneck.

Bitmain needs to release a firmware upgrade that allows mining on the INDIVIDUAL GROUPS OF HASHCORES. That means they need to modify their version of cgminer such that it is able to tell the ASIC to run calculations on just one algorithm. Then patch their other programs to accommodate the modifications. That's it. All it takes is the WILL to help their buyers and a couple of developers.

Making fun of noobs is not nice! Teach them and inform them, this is the way to go, we've all been there! And by the way, as previously mentioned, YOU CAN mine LTC with D3 using prohashing with LTC payout!