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Topic: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 - page 76. (Read 299686 times)

newbie
Activity: 14
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...and probably in January iBeLink will release 100GH/s model for 2200 dollars and we all be f..k..d...
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
So true. The scariest thing is, soon they will hit the wall on Technology advancements and the whole "mining train" will hit the station with no brakes at 200mph. The only "miners" will be large corporations with free electricity because they greased Government palms.

Funny, that's what people were saying 3-4 years ago.  So far it hasn't come to pass.  Not sure it ever will.

M
Yes, I know but where do we go from 7nm??? 3nm??? Also, it's actually happening. Look at Japan. Govts and large Corps are now joined at the hip. They normally like to grind up everything and everybody in their path and keep all the chips.

I wouldn't rule anything out! Smiley

You missed the part about banks being hipped in there as well.

M
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 110
So true. The scariest thing is, soon they will hit the wall on Technology advancements and the whole "mining train" will hit the station with no brakes at 200mph. The only "miners" will be large corporations with free electricity because they greased Government palms.

Funny, that's what people were saying 3-4 years ago.  So far it hasn't come to pass.  Not sure it ever will.

M
Yes, I know but where do we go from 7nm??? 3nm??? Also, it's actually happening. Look at Japan. Govts and large Corps are now joined at the hip. They normally like to grind up everything and everybody in their path and keep all the chips.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1030
Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!
Guys cheer up. your in before "the man"  lol

stop complaining and "plug it in"

So true, no one says you have to mine Dash.  Pick a shitcoin and hope the price goes up!!
full member
Activity: 264
Merit: 100
Guys cheer up. your in before "the man"  lol

stop complaining and "plug it in"
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
So true. The scariest thing is, soon they will hit the wall on Technology advancements and the whole "mining train" will hit the station with no brakes at 200mph. The only "miners" will be large corporations with free electricity because they greased Government palms.

Funny, that's what people were saying 3-4 years ago.  So far it hasn't come to pass.  Not sure it ever will.

M
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 110

If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.

Dude, Bitmain is based in China.  What makes you think you have any rights there?


this is not a fucking cell phone which they can produce and sell witohout limit.
is it realy so hard to understand for you ?



Sure it is, there is no law saying they can't produce millions of them.  If people (us) are still buying them, they will still produce them.  Why wouldn't they?  In a year they will produce newer/faster models and the cycle will start all over again.  People that get in on the 1st batch will make money and everyone else seeing how much money they are making will jump on the bandwagon and get screwed.
What make you think Bitmain gives a rat's ass about your rights, they are in business to make money.

surely there is no law violation, absolutely
but as the biggest firm in the market, we have to ask Bitmain to comply with some ethical rules.
Only they can anticipate the increase in difficulty and take the necessary precautions( like to not selling too much)
In order for the market to be sustainable, it is necessary to stick to a simple rule like not killing algorithims
actually, The only purpose is to emphasize this issue



As a newbie you haven't seen this cycle yet.  When gridseed came out with the 5 chip miners, people jumped all over them.  Then the next shiny toy came out, old product got dumped and new miners were bought.  This cycle has been going on for years.  In a year a faster miner will come out to even the playing field and everyone will be jumping all over it.
It's supply and demand, Bitmain puts them up for sale (they don't even have them yet), let's say 20,000 units.  In a couple days all units are sold.  Rinse and repeat.  If people are still buying them why shouldn't they make them?
So true. The scariest thing is, soon they will hit the wall on Technology advancements and the whole "mining train" will hit the station with no brakes at 200mph. The only "miners" will be large corporations with free electricity because they greased Government palms.
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 110

If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.

Dude, Bitmain is based in China.  What makes you think you have any rights there?


this is not a fucking cell phone which they can produce and sell witohout limit.
is it realy so hard to understand for you ?



Sure it is, there is no law saying they can't produce millions of them.  If people (us) are still buying them, they will still produce them.  Why wouldn't they?  In a year they will produce newer/faster models and the cycle will start all over again.  People that get in on the 1st batch will make money and everyone else seeing how much money they are making will jump on the bandwagon and get screwed.
What make you think Bitmain gives a rat's ass about your rights, they are in business to make money.

surely there is no law violation, absolutely
but as the biggest firm in the market, we have to ask Bitmain to comply with some ethical rules.
Only they can anticipate the increase in difficulty and take the necessary precautions( like to not selling too much)
In order for the market to be sustainable, it is necessary to stick to a simple rule like not killing algorithims
actually, The only purpose is to emphasize this issue


That's a great point D3 and I agree wholeheartedly, but reality is, in today's corporate grab bag, it's all about rape and pillage. Damn the torpedoes and fuck the customer. Get what you can when you can. Too bad really. Kind of Ironic, Crypto and Block Chain are a libertarian initiative, designed to combat exactly that ethos, yet, here we are, getting buttraped by a huge corporation right in the Crypto backyard!!

BTW......I can't stop laughing at your choice of Screen name. No offense but that's a Helluva screename!! LOL!
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1030
Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!
Wow great but like somebody said by the time we get it and start using the speed may not be the same as now.

Yep, we're all idiots!!
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Wow great but like somebody said by the time we get it and start using the speed may not be the same as now.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1030
Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!

If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.

Dude, Bitmain is based in China.  What makes you think you have any rights there?


this is not a fucking cell phone which they can produce and sell witohout limit.
is it realy so hard to understand for you ?



Sure it is, there is no law saying they can't produce millions of them.  If people (us) are still buying them, they will still produce them.  Why wouldn't they?  In a year they will produce newer/faster models and the cycle will start all over again.  People that get in on the 1st batch will make money and everyone else seeing how much money they are making will jump on the bandwagon and get screwed.
What make you think Bitmain gives a rat's ass about your rights, they are in business to make money.

surely there is no law violation, absolutely
but as the biggest firm in the market, we have to ask Bitmain to comply with some ethical rules.
Only they can anticipate the increase in difficulty and take the necessary precautions( like to not selling too much)
In order for the market to be sustainable, it is necessary to stick to a simple rule like not killing algorithims
actually, The only purpose is to emphasize this issue



As a newbie you haven't seen this cycle yet.  When gridseed came out with the 5 chip miners, people jumped all over them.  Then the next shiny toy came out, old product got dumped and new miners were bought.  This cycle has been going on for years.  In a year a faster miner will come out to even the playing field and everyone will be jumping all over it.
It's supply and demand, Bitmain puts them up for sale (they don't even have them yet), let's say 20,000 units.  In a couple days all units are sold.  Rinse and repeat.  If people are still buying them why shouldn't they make them?
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10

If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.

Dude, Bitmain is based in China.  What makes you think you have any rights there?


this is not a fucking cell phone which they can produce and sell witohout limit.
is it realy so hard to understand for you ?



Sure it is, there is no law saying they can't produce millions of them.  If people (us) are still buying them, they will still produce them.  Why wouldn't they?  In a year they will produce newer/faster models and the cycle will start all over again.  People that get in on the 1st batch will make money and everyone else seeing how much money they are making will jump on the bandwagon and get screwed.
What make you think Bitmain gives a rat's ass about your rights, they are in business to make money.

surely there is no law violation, absolutely
but as the biggest firm in the market, we have to ask Bitmain to comply with some ethical rules.
Only they can anticipate the increase in difficulty and take the necessary precautions( like to not selling too much)
In order for the market to be sustainable, it is necessary to stick to a simple rule like not killing algorithims
actually, The only purpose is to emphasize this issue

full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 110
OK i have both my D3 up and mining


Nice, best of luck! Watch your Chip temps and HW errors. These are some hot runnin bastards. Seems like Bitmain kicked the frequency up to near Redline at 537. I run mine all at 525 or lower to help stabilize them. Whenever I let them run at 537, no matter how much I cool them they start kicking out HW errors and crashing boards. Might want to manually set your fans to 80-100% too.
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0

I would advice you to let some more space behind the D3, otherwise they will heat up very quickly...
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1030
Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!

If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.

Dude, Bitmain is based in China.  What makes you think you have any rights there?


this is not a fucking cell phone which they can produce and sell witohout limit.
is it realy so hard to understand for you ?



Sure it is, there is no law saying they can't produce millions of them.  If people (us) are still buying them, they will still produce them.  Why wouldn't they?  In a year they will produce newer/faster models and the cycle will start all over again.  People that get in on the 1st batch will make money and everyone else seeing how much money they are making will jump on the bandwagon and get screwed.
What make you think Bitmain gives a rat's ass about your rights, they are in business to make money.
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10

If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.

Dude, Bitmain is based in China.  What makes you think you have any rights there?


this is not a fucking cell phone which they can produce and sell witohout limit.
is it realy so hard to understand for you ?

legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1030
Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!

If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.

Dude, Bitmain is based in China.  What makes you think you have any rights there?
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10

If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.
full member
Activity: 264
Merit: 100
OK i have both my D3 up and mining

legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1030
Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!

Like they care, they already have your money.  For those of us who have been mining a while, there is always risk, there has always been risk.  If you can't deal with it you shouldn't be mining.  I know I have 4 of these coming in soon, I know they are going to sell at a loss.  But you lick your wounds and keep on mining.
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