Pages:
Author

Topic: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 - page 85. (Read 299686 times)

copper member
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1465
Clueless!
difficulty wont go more then 50 mil so it will be 3.5 usd day without electricity Cheesy at least i will be making that amount Smiley free electricity for me

but other folks who have to pay for electricity they will be screwed some even wont get any revenue

It will mathematically impossible for the Dash network to reach "50 M ". At some point waaaay south of that difficulty, a LOT of people that over paid for D3 Servers and are overpaying for Kwh, will be forced off the network because they will be mining at a loss. It's a game of attrition now. The same has happened in BTC and will happen in ALL crypto POW protocols. It's the nature of the beast. Man this hysteria is getting.....well......Hysterical.

Difficulty now is 51.9M  Cry

What can you say now?  Wink

AS illogical as it may seem...I'm looking to use my D3 'space heaters' to mine 'dubious' x11 coins on a hopeful pump

I just need everyone to make a decison on what dubious x11 coin we can pump in my deluded attempt to get this space heater to mine something as dubious as itself!

and boy....I"d get LOTS for my electric use...whew boy...not worth a damn...but LOTS!

(I am regressing to my newbie youth of 2013....but give me an x11 coin everyone else will pile into ....besides dash...and I'll give it a shot just to relive my newbie crypto days)

by god ...I bought a 'space heater' by god I'm gonna use the space heater and write off electric use as such!

(damn, I've become this guy)




Damn it! Point Taken! Full speed ahead!
full member
Activity: 294
Merit: 100
Who mentioned that the difficulty will not go over 50 million?
It's at 52 right now!
full member
Activity: 392
Merit: 102
difficulty wont go more then 50 mil so it will be 3.5 usd day without electricity Cheesy at least i will be making that amount Smiley free electricity for me

but other folks who have to pay for electricity they will be screwed some even wont get any revenue

It will mathematically impossible for the Dash network to reach "50 M ". At some point waaaay south of that difficulty, a LOT of people that over paid for D3 Servers and are overpaying for Kwh, will be forced off the network because they will be mining at a loss. It's a game of attrition now. The same has happened in BTC and will happen in ALL crypto POW protocols. It's the nature of the beast. Man this hysteria is getting.....well......Hysterical.

Difficulty now is 51.9M  Cry

What can you say now?  Wink
copper member
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1465
Clueless!
This D3 reminds me of the Antminer S2, S3 and the Terraminer from 2014.

Except this D3 seems like its worse.

Could you please tell more about that , what happened at 2014 ?

Well as one example ..knc made Neptune sha-256 bitmain machines...took crypto/cash 10 months or so in advance...then took the pre-order $$$
and filled thier data halls up with equip...driving up difficulty to the point of when the Neptunes shipped about 7 months late .....they lasted about
4-5 months and maybe got 1/4 of their ROI back

further folk who sued them under Swedish law LOST. Seems in Sweden, businesses are not covered by EU consumer protection...KNC got the courts to agree
caused they mined crypto...they could ONLY be business equipment .(even though they did not advertise as such) and WON

furhter more if you lose under Swedish court..you lost the 1.5k each unit to file with the lawyers and you had to pay I think up to 2k to KNC for damages too boot

there are about 9 other instances of these kinda games where the corporation went bankrupt or something and walked with all the crypto..common as hell

BFL/GAW miners/Alpha-Tech come to mind...all persons involved walked with crypto....the corporation took the hit if bankrupt or law enforcement

don't think the rules have changed all that much...we could be in for another cycle of this kinda thing perhaps...er wait...no other crypto mnfg's of any note but

bitmain...er never mind..only bitmain's tune now can be played

newbie
Activity: 77
Merit: 0
Wow 51.4 million difficulty!

Let's see how many people turn these prices of crap off now.

$4 a day return before electricity costs will leave many miners losing money. I think this has surprised even the most pessimistic amongst us!

Still another batch to come... end of November 70million difficulty?
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 253
This D3 reminds me of the Antminer S2, S3 and the Terraminer from 2014.

Except this D3 seems like its worse.

Could you please tell more about that , what happened at 2014 ?

Mining difficulty spiked and Bitcoin price stayed flat. Although, the people that mined and held for long-term won big.
member
Activity: 118
Merit: 11
I'm sorry for everyone who bought that bullshit..... me included.... 0.07 DASH in 7 days running with no errors, time to throw away my D3?.

I've tried to mine in MPH and Suprnova and the results are similar.... oh god.... what's the best pool for DASH?
The "swimming pool". LMAO!!


Lol
Good one buddy. I will jump in with it plugged in
LMAO!! Me too!

LOL, ok :

stratum+tcp://eu-swimmingpool.com:25501 is that right?.

I will try it... .
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
This D3 reminds me of the Antminer S2, S3 and the Terraminer from 2014.

Except this D3 seems like its worse.

Could you please tell more about that , what happened at 2014 ?
newbie
Activity: 77
Merit: 0
At least the Dash price rise is giving some relief today
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Looks really great but we should have had it with us by now.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
This D3 reminds me of the Antminer S2, S3 and the Terraminer from 2014.

Except this D3 seems like its worse.
full member
Activity: 187
Merit: 100
havent read the past 200 pages of posts.. but I just got my 2 D3 units.  not impressed, big mistake.  if you want to buy them from me hit me up.

how much?
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 110
I'm sorry for everyone who bought that bullshit..... me included.... 0.07 DASH in 7 days running with no errors, time to throw away my D3?.

I've tried to mine in MPH and Suprnova and the results are similar.... oh god.... what's the best pool for DASH?
The "swimming pool". LMAO!!


Lol
Good one buddy. I will jump in with it plugged in
LMAO!! Me too!
copper member
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1465
Clueless!
@searing are you planning on getting the DCRD asic? from obelisk.tech?


Nope, I think I got took by the Sia coin folk. They promised their minerbox solution this last Summer ...no show

They said previously to this that coupons would apply to future Sia coin obelisk orders......(I have 5) now they

say only 1 coupon per unit ...I'm not getting another 5

They also will not allow a swap of a siacoin miner pre-ordered for this DCRD unit ........even thou same price

Lastly, they pop'd out this DCRD on like Nov 2nd or some such ...and will only allow it for pre-sale till Nov 24th

and are unclear WTF presale means...they still say they are gonna sell 4000 units of each

So out of my approx 12.5k invested...it is likely I will take a loss on these...with me looking at profit rate 50% to the  tax man, unless I found some equip to apply

that 50% too instead ...I'd pay either way...why not apply it to dubious equip at a 25% in real $$$ risk this year due to high tax on mining income? WTH?

this year..plus the 25% real $$ I can apply to equip deduction for taking all this equip off this year vs 5 years in not towards

taxes I KNOW I will have to pay anyway on top of that...

I'm down 25% (again in real $$ applied to taxes owed thisyear anyway) of this purchase price if the units never make 1c ..due to the above tricks..ie 25% risk over what I'd end up paying IRS w/no equp tricks

thus in real money applied....after taxes and all is said and done on the total $12,675.usd with shipping for the 5 sia obelisk units

I"m likely looking at a loss...if a complete loss (they don't ship) in real $$ of $3,162.50

Of course, I could get lucky and they could arrive and make enough on Sia coin and their ideas to get that 25% back

but I am dubious after the fact. They can't even get the calc on the www.obelisk.tech website correct

still shows a profit at old 100mh rate, not the supposed 300mh rate
 

I'm really out again $3,162.50 from my $12,650 investment...l

I took a shot and lost....this year I've been doing a lot of that ...... the same idea for the D3 ...out of 4k spent ...out 1k plus

the newbie getting equip under the above scenario it is 25% equip deduction off taxes due to IRS and the other 75% is all risk (because again newbie)

These are some of the reasons us 'old dogs' took a chance on the D3's and other dubious equip....we made so much $$$ on the 4.15 to 50 buck LTC rise

mining.....that is the circumstances this year...indeed likely a big result of why all ASIC's of any flavor are all off the shelf

but a new pup buying the stuff above like me ...2 D3's combined price of 4k plus and 12.65k for 5 obelisks...that would be dire indeed

The last point on the DCRD decred miner...my view is a mess of ASIC's hitting that coin will blow it up the same way the knc titan firmware patch

in 2014 allowed knc titans to mine scrypt-N instead of scrypt-pow coins too....blew up all-N coins to worthlessness in a month or so

too much hash ....too little $$$ and coin or protocol goes boom...this could be the case with Dcrd decred mineR and MAYBE x11 mining, both could go boom

pumping out ASIC toasters have consequences.....








@searing I love your comprehensive answer, you are right about obelisk not worth risking few $$ with them no track record so far... already got burn with D3s will take 3-5 months to recover from that gut punch. Thank you for your insight.


also remember...I LIKELY will still pull this out as EVEN...with above I have 25% risked...in that the solo 401k I can make will be maxed out etc.....at 50% tax liability till Jan 1st
and the 25% off taxes owed in real $$$ i can take off on the 5 year equip deduction in ONE year as part of USA stimulus.that allows this equip windfall in 1 year.....I might just pull this off ....recouping that potential 25% loss if the crap can mine something .....for the D3 and the obelisks (which the Obelisks I can count off equip deduction this year and need to badly..but won't add to tax burden till next year ...assuming they too are not a form of asci toaster like bitmain)

The regular guys that are ONLY going to get the 25% equip deduction and risked 75% of income to get the D3 or the Obelisks...that is gonna be devastating

so anyway, my bet was 1) pay tax man 50% off all and not get any equip of any dubious flavor D3 or Obelisk

or 2) risk a likely only 25% or maybe a bit  more LOSS on equip purchases...that I could lose above that 50% when all is said and done..shifting it to equip rather than just pay IRS etc

hard not to take that bet..(or so I console myself with...these toe toaster space heaters of 2 D3's I have...and dubious fairy dust/bfl/unicorn type vaporware from obelisk)

All will change back to reset on income after Jan 1st 2018 ..and we can do this whole merry go round of wtf to do via  buy cyrpto/what crypto/what equip/how to hold/etc)

Then you have after Jan 1st and it all starts up again

what to hold/what to pump/what to dump (it is all so frigging complicated......)

right now after all the above shenanigans..... I likely still will pay the IRS 3-5K ....it will be that close this year mining (assuming LTC stays flat till Jan)

fun times...be careful what you wish for.....when you say yippiee to 4.15 to 50 buck LTC and you have scrypt pow miners.....if it goes from $55 bucks now

to $150 or $300 next year...for say LTC..you guys with scrypt-pow miners could be singing this same tune in 2018 Smiley


To stay on topic of the D3 however...I got zip...

1) helium x11 coin ...everyone pumps it like the 2nd coming ..er maybe?

2) thats it...the other option is space heaters for cat

and to be completely 'unfair' meanwhile in 'evil ASIC miner land' the KNC titan scrypt pow machines, currently doing LTC  from 2014 ARE STILL MAKING MONEY (Titans are evil they are..I don't understand...their powerful voodoo to cheat death!)



copper member
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1465
Clueless!
Hi.
Today I recieved information about my november batch was shipped, but package is only antminers without PSU's Sad Anyone had similiar issues?

Yep..the PSU's on the same order...folks seem to say are consistently 2-3 weeks later .....bitmain you have to 'love em' .... they just must

bounce out of bed every morning.....with 'evil glee' to start the day on how to muck us up......(glad someone is having a good time)

sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
I'm sorry for everyone who bought that bullshit..... me included.... 0.07 DASH in 7 days running with no errors, time to throw away my D3?.

I've tried to mine in MPH and Suprnova and the results are similar.... oh god.... what's the best pool for DASH?

Hello, you can try coinmine.pl here is the link
https://www2.coinmine.pl/dash/
You can always join coinmine slack channel also for fast support.
Has been very solid since i started mining dash. Just make sure you stay on it instead of jumping around.
Glad to see many miners getting off the the nicehash and prohashing pools to mine dash..
Please try to hold dash a bit.
sr. member
Activity: 873
Merit: 268
I have down clocked my D3 from 537 mhz (because it was hanging up and a lot HW errors) once i downclocked it to 500 Mhz (approx 17 ghs power usage is 1100 w at the wall down from 1220w for 537mhz)

It runs very stable lot cooler no or few hw errors every 1 day running stable for 7 days. I would recommend that to everyone.

i recommended the same, few pages back.

all those retarded-OC 19.3Gh, please downclocked to 500 Mhz. On most miner the HW is almost negligible. Some recorded ZERO, yes 0000 HW errors.
This HW errors after downclock is due to the fans (some comes with Nidec, some with SJ and another one can't remember with yellow tag)
my best record is 5 days until it hit xxxxxxxxx, then a simple reboot did the magic, as usual.



Yep if every one downclocked maybe we all be little bit more profitable.
HAHAHAHA!!!!! If only it were that simple!!! Good one.

lol... i am glad some got my sarcasm.
full member
Activity: 264
Merit: 100
I'm sorry for everyone who bought that bullshit..... me included.... 0.07 DASH in 7 days running with no errors, time to throw away my D3?.

I've tried to mine in MPH and Suprnova and the results are similar.... oh god.... what's the best pool for DASH?
The "swimming pool". LMAO!!


Lol
Good one buddy. I will jump in with it plugged in
full member
Activity: 217
Merit: 101
HOLY SHIT!

Dash just broke the PETAHASH barrier.



D3 will be an expensive ass paper weight.


Dude, I'm going to cry,  I'm still going to mine anyway, what else can you do...
full member
Activity: 217
Merit: 101
i have my d3 hosted remotely.  how do i login to access it and make changes?

Either have another PC/laptop in the same LAN with something like Teamviewer installed and configured so you can remote into that and then connect to the D3 web portal.

OR port forward the HTTP/HTTPS ports to your D3 static IP from router.
Pages:
Jump to: