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Topic: Bitmain to release S17E 64TH - page 3. (Read 4433 times)

copper member
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Clueless!
December 03, 2019, 05:18:44 PM
IF you look at the bitmain site on the technical specs..they seem to be doing this now. I assume it is for the newer released stuff and ALL will go on this route now. I suspect it is because to get the performance and hashing out of the same chips but just making bigger and bigger boxes there is not slack now. Maybe I'm wrong, but I suspect this will be the case. Anyway, others on this thread may have a workaround on this whole one setting thing..I'm just guessing.

But is there a workaround? Or are you simply stuck with this one power setting?

Brad
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December 03, 2019, 08:43:23 AM
My S17e arrived yesterday.   $492 tariff paid.

Up and running immediately, and looking just fine. I did notice it has no power settings for low power/ normal.  Just one set speed
legendary
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November 30, 2019, 11:02:19 AM
Yes, I am done as well.
Not sure if it is OK to say here that I might sell coupons.

pm me if you do - i may be interested.
legendary
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November 30, 2019, 12:45:43 AM
this uncertainty makes it really hard for me to order from them.

i think i may have ended my orders for 2019.

Yes, I am done as well.
Not sure if it is OK to say here that I might sell coupons.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
November 29, 2019, 09:53:11 PM
this uncertainty makes it really hard for me to order from them.

i think i may have ended my orders for 2019.
legendary
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November 29, 2019, 09:42:05 PM
Re price after halving-depends on btc price.

For me, both S17e and T17E came from China, urgh.
Taxes were about $493 for S17e and $360 for T17e.

Compare with s17pro from MY at $52 tax.
Why not switch ALL assembly to MY?
Oh, well.
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November 28, 2019, 12:36:48 PM
I would estimate the s17 pro can sell at 800 + shipping and still turn a profit.  I can see it at that price after 1/2 ing happens.
legendary
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be constructive or S.T.F.U
November 28, 2019, 08:56:45 AM

I know you know how it works, phill knows  and everyone who has been around long enough knows what bitmain really is, but that post was for the newbies who think bitmain are kind and moral for giving out coupons like that.

Marco is a trusted dude i bought a truck load of coupons of him last year, as for Jihan and the cheap gears i would love to hear from you next month or two when the gears you bought fall 30% in price   Grin
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
November 28, 2019, 07:55:56 AM
That was sarcasm Mikey! Btw Marco was awesome bought a coupon off him. But yeah Wu is a little fuck head. But at the same time I like cheap gear.

He is on my what ceo died last night list Roll Eyes


Every morning I google   Wu and Cook


Bimain's Jihan Wu

https://www.bing.com/search? bitmain's Jihan Wu

Apple's Tim Cook

https://www.bing.com/search? apple's Tim Cook
sr. member
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November 27, 2019, 08:00:35 PM
That was sarcasm Mikey! Btw Marco was awesome bought a coupon off him. But yeah Wu is a little fuck head. But at the same time I like cheap gear.
legendary
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be constructive or S.T.F.U
November 27, 2019, 07:40:38 PM
They sure compensated you super well for being one of the first to jump on the new product...... I hate them sometimes honestly.

I think phill knows that, but honestly they didn't compensate him fairly, you buy a gear for say 2500$ , one month later the gear drops to 1700$ , they send you a 600$ coupon which if you were to sell , you would never get 100% of it's face value, so you are only left with one logical option, which what he did , buy the discounted gear using the coupon just in an attempt to average the current miner's price, which will never happen.

if you haven't heart yet,  Jihan wu is back and he is probably responsible for all the price drops, he makes every other gear made by competitors look and smell like a terrible deal, and in the process of doing so,  everyone  including resllers and clients are getting screwed.
sr. member
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November 27, 2019, 07:15:50 PM
I GUESS it is what they did.

They sure compensated you super well for being one of the first to jump on the new product...... I hate them sometimes honestly.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
November 27, 2019, 07:13:29 PM
I am assuming they rewarded you with hefty coupons for preordering at such a premium?

I GUESS it is what they did.
sr. member
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November 27, 2019, 07:04:03 PM
I have 1 coupon  for 368  buying yet 1 more s17 pro looks tempting.  1599-368 = 1231 + 120 to ship =1351  and maybe no trump tax.  With paypal six months no interest.

I talked with frodocooper about a special thread on the bitmain coupon/refund situation it is a very unusual deal they are doing so I will be able to create this thread in hardware as a one time exception .  i.e. we do not want it to get lost in service discussion. As the thread may help out more then 1 or 2 or even 10 forum members. To get their fair refund/credits/coupons.

Edit I used my 368 coupon and purchased 1 more s17pro.  Cost was  1350 with shipping after coupon. If I get another Malaysia unit I will be at 40 for tax about 1390 usd for a unit that sold for over 3000 less then a month ago.  Yeah  I got caught up on 2 s17pro's and paid 4900 + 1200 = 6100 for 2 pieces.

But  with trump tax not applied due to  Malaysia builds  the next 2 cost  1550 and 1350 = 2900 for 2 pieces.

so with cost averaging 4 for 9000 = 2250 a piece.

I am assuming they rewarded you with hefty coupons for preordering at such a premium?
sr. member
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November 27, 2019, 05:51:50 PM
Due to stupidity of customs in my country, I've just received my S17e which should have been at my place at 15th of November.

However, I will try to avoid swearing and spitting on my country's customs and give you some useful info.

It's been running for 3 hours on ViaBTC (due to their current discounts and gifts, however I will switch it to Slushpool as soon as the event finishes).

Unit came with Nov 2 firmware which I guess is newest and it started at 68TH/s and slowly went down to 67.3TH/s (will see how much it goes down but I guess it will not go below 66.9 due to my next sentence).

Here is a Kernel Log code explaining why it probably will not go under 66.9 and some avg temps:

Code:
2019-11-27 19:48:02 frequency.c:161:get_ideal_hash_rate_GH: ideal_hash_rate = 66971
2019-11-27 19:48:02 frequency.c:180:get_sale_hash_rate_GH: sale_hash_rate = 64000
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2019-11-27 22:18:19 thread.c:188:calc_hashrate_avg: avg rate is 67203.41 in 30 mins
2019-11-27 22:18:19 temperature.c:465:temp_statistics_show:   pcb temp 35~61  chip temp 55~70
2019-11-27 22:48:21 thread.c:188:calc_hashrate_avg: avg rate is 67323.05 in 30 mins
2019-11-27 22:48:21 temperature.c:465:temp_statistics_show:   pcb temp 34~61  chip temp 55~69


I will measure power usage tomorrow and will edit this post when I get actual numbers.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
November 15, 2019, 06:12:48 PM
use

edit let me look more

this works

https://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Prong-Adapter-60320-C14/dp/B004OC579E/

all below is good

and this

https://www.amazon.com/NEMA-5-15P-C13-Splitter-Cord/dp/B00W5LJQKM/

with this meter in-between

https://www.amazon.com/Electricity-Monitor-Voltage-Overload-Protection/dp/B07DPJ3RGB/

don't run it more then 30  - 60 minutes to get your readings.

It is not good enough to run more then 30 to 60 minutes.

So attach the  plug to one of your 13c power cables  and to the meter

then attach the splitter to the meter  then run  for under an hour should work. may not
member
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November 15, 2019, 02:58:51 PM
After the firmware reset the unit is much more aggressive
The fans went up to 4200 4200 5160 5160
The temps stayed the same pcb 59 60 62 chips 67 67 70
But the has avg is up to 66.7TH
Up for an hour now will update if any changes

Any idea on  how much power it is using?

Got it up for over 3 hours
no idea on actual power consumption its running beside two s17 pro 50th and it running a few Cs less on board and chip (the S17 pros are in turbo mode at 56.5Th)
I can tell you by walking behind them the S17E is producing definitely significantly hotter air I don't doubt its running 3200 possibly 3300, its mostly hashing at 67Th

If there is a meter or something I can grab off amazon (I have prime so two day shipping) that allows me to plug it into I would love to have for a measure
I am using Nema 6-20P receptacles (Leviton 5822-W 20-Amp, 250-Volt)  so I would need it to plug into that
running one miner per dual outlet on a dual pole 240 breaker.
legendary
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be constructive or S.T.F.U
November 15, 2019, 02:05:21 PM
Temps also look good but I do have it by the window and I live in Canada currently -8C
temps are 61 59 60 pcb

This is bad , real bad I guess , according to this normal miner operation temps from bitmain >https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360005088914-Miner-normal-operating-temperature-range

it mentions max PCB for S17e is 80c , if it's freezing -8c and the miner is sitting by window, how the heck is it going to be in a hot place like my country where temps in the summer go to as high as 40c ? pretty sure I am going to toast those guys with the standard cooling I have.

I received my T17 40th today (spot order) i set fans at 95% as i usually do to all my gears since fans are dirt cheap and noise is not an issue in that particular farm, PCB temp is ranging at around 50 , outside temp is 21c and the max pcb temp on bitmain states 75 for this gear , so i guess the T17 will still run fine in the summer, but i am not sure about the S17e, guess i will have to improve the air ventilation there if i ever decide to get those S17e.

Quote
Kernel log goes thru the generic 0 asic found msg

a loose heatsink may cause this issue, did you try to shake the miner to inspect any noise coming of the heatsink?  also placing the miner horizontally may fix this if the heatsink is just about falling, you still have to get it fixed anyway, but it's good to know what went wrong.
member
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November 15, 2019, 12:00:38 PM
firmware reset got the hashboard up and running lets see how it holds up.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
November 15, 2019, 09:54:31 AM
Got my first s17E in my hands today.
It’s arrived it’s bigger that the s17pros slightly quieter haven’t observed it too much had to pop out to work
7 min avg was only 63th but I’m sure it will climb up and end up around 64 !
Temps also look good but I do have it by the window and I live in Canada currently -8C

Edit
Been around 9 hours machine is 63.85Th Avg
temps are 61 59 60 pcb and chip 68 69 67
Fans are 2880 2880 3720 3720
Frequency is 436 417 435 errors 0.0000%
Firmware is from Nov 2 2019
Psu is definitely hotter than the s17 pros

Any idea on  how much power it is using?
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