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Topic: Bitmain to release S17E 64TH - page 2. (Read 4433 times)

sr. member
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December 24, 2019, 10:31:17 AM
Interesting... So are they the same person?  Roll Eyes  Huh
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
December 24, 2019, 09:32:34 AM
No I have an email  starts with  Chita and ends with Carol  Roll Eyes

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Chita (Bitmain)
Dec 17, 15:46 CST

Dear philipma1957,

Thanks for contacting us.

Could you please tell us you want to change T17+ 64T to T17+ 58T or want to wait for T17+ 64T ?

If you have other confusion or concerns, please kindly be free to let us know.
Thanks for your cooperation and wish you a great day ahead.

Regards,
Carol
Bitmain
sr. member
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Merit: 416
December 24, 2019, 07:45:25 AM
same here

Thanks for your reply.
After checking with our manager, we can move the payment to your new order with S17+
please make new order from our website, then tell us the new order ID, thanks

Best regards,
Bella
​BITMAIN

Woah, nice, I was hoping that would work. I got the same problem, but I had T17+ which they want to downgrade from 64 to 58TH/s, I said "no, please go for upgrade to S17+, I will pay difference (in BTC!)". Additionally, $80 difference and 1 month prior shipping would have been a good option for me but I have T17e in that same order, so I really do not know how they plan to do this as I do not want to pay shipping for 2 units separately.

Tho, this was their mail:
Quote from: Chita
Dear Filip,

We’re terribly sorry to inform you that stock of T17+ 64T in your order ID 001201----------- is insufficient.

Now we trying to solve the issue by offering product update from T17+ 64T to T17+ 58T. If you agree with the solution, please kindly help reply to this email for confirmation as soon as possible, and then we will send you a special link to place a new T17+ 58T order immediately. Please also take note that USD shall be chosen as the payment mode of your new T17+ order.

Additionally, the price of one unit 58T T17+, 11-20,Dec. batch is $1203. The price difference of T17+ 64T and T17+ 58T be remained as balance under your account, for the specific usage rule of balance.

Please feel free to contact us, we will guide you accordingly.

Regards,
Chita
Bitmain

Also, I have never before been in contact with Chita, is she/he new at Bitmain support?
newbie
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December 24, 2019, 05:37:48 AM
same here

Thanks for your reply.
After checking with our manager, we can move the payment to your new order with S17+
please make new order from our website, then tell us the new order ID, thanks

Best regards,
Bella
​BITMAIN
full member
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December 23, 2019, 01:41:10 PM
Rec'd email today:

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Chita (Bitmain)
Dec 23, 18:51 CST

Dear PopoJeff,

We’re terribly sorry to inform you that stock of S17e 64T in your order ID 0012019100801087 is insufficient.

Now we trying to solve the issue by offering product update from S17e 64T to S17e 60T. If you agree with the solution, please kindly help reply to this email for confirmation as soon as possible, and then we will send you a special link to place a new S17e 60T order immediately. Please also take note that USD shall be chosen as the payment mode of your new S17e order.

Additionally, the price of one unit S17e 64T, 21-31,Dec. batch is $1433. The price difference of S17e 64T and S17e 60T be remained as balance under your account, for the specific usage rule of balance.
Please feel free to contact us, we will guide you accordingly.

Regards,
Chita
Bitmain

I replied, asking for an S17+ instead.



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  Rec'd reply:
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Chita (Bitmain)
Dec 24, 12:03 CST

Sorry, can not change S17e to S17+

So i asked them to cancel this order, since they cannot fulfill the correct product. And apply value to acct credit.
sr. member
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December 10, 2019, 08:16:48 AM
But is there a workaround? Or are you simply stuck with this one power setting?

It seems that @AlecMe found a workaround for T17e which also works for S17e. You can check his guide here.

However, in these 2 images that I posted you can see what you should change and what are the results:

This is how options look for S17e. All I had to do was go inspect elements and change "display:none" to "display:HERE" (I used caps so it can be visible on picture), you can use anything instead of "HERE".
https://imgur.com/a/teF805s
https://imgur.com/a/llVh1A2
As my pictures still won't show up here even after I tried changing resolutions you will have 2 links bellow with full resolution.

Inspect elements edit: https://imgur.com/a/ITxeDRQ
Result in Miner Configuration: https://imgur.com/a/VNlcVUK

I am yet to test all the options so I still cannot recommend meddling with this.

EDIT:
Using fan control worked without any problems.
Usable %:0-100 but lowest I tried was 30% and as soon as temps reach 78C fans would ramp up to 100% and go back down to 30% until it reaches "Critical Temperature" again. It was annoying at least, and dangers at most as 80C is limit for S17e.

Using different modes didn't do anything noticeable in miner status (will have to check Kernel Log for more data) except the starting speed, on Sleep Mode and Normal Mode it would start as high as 68TH/s and slowly goes down to 66TH/s (sometimes it takes days) and on Low Power, it starts at 65TH/s and slowly goes up to stable 66TH/s.

Changing Voltage does not do anything as it still goes back to its 1850 default.

Increasing Frequency does not do anything as it auto-tunes itself to 438/423/437 (respectively) in my case (yours may vary).
sr. member
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Created AutoTune to saved the planet! ~USA
December 05, 2019, 11:04:05 AM
It will cover T17e as well. At least it should I will double check but it appears the T17e and T17 are the same machine E just better chips from asic lottery. The + models are different machines and won't be supported right off the bat. Early testing shows the ability to downvote up to 25% but I have not yet found the magic number for best performance and th/s yet. Someone will probably beat me to finding the best settings. I am pretty excited for the downclock so I can stop running my pdu's at a stupid high load.

Edit: T17e has more chips and is a different machine so no. Original firmware posted will just work for only T17.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
December 05, 2019, 10:56:35 AM
I am so looking forward to playing with the t17.   will this cover the t17e and t17+?
sr. member
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Created AutoTune to saved the planet! ~USA
December 05, 2019, 10:47:28 AM
I should have a firmware for T17 and S17 within a day. There was a bug getting the T17 chips to autotune. Think we got it ironed out and it should hopefully be working. If it works after some testing I will have a thread for the firmware within a day or two.
legendary
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December 04, 2019, 09:15:43 PM
sure hope we can get into the t17 variants to undervolt

would be a nice option around halving. I only have the T17 variants and no S17 variants.
jr. member
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December 04, 2019, 09:14:35 PM
sure hope we can get into the t17 variants to undervolt
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
December 04, 2019, 02:46:09 PM
the s17 responds extremely well to underclocking/volting in testing, so far

yeah i can get good numbers with mine.

i purchased a s17/s17pro controller as a spare .

it can flash to either one so i made it a s17 pro controller.

put in place of the s17 and tested the mod.

very happy with low setting.

all this is in prep for 1/2 ing if needed i can go more efficient.
jr. member
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December 04, 2019, 02:22:17 PM
the s17 responds extremely well to underclocking/volting in testing, so far
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
December 04, 2019, 02:15:33 PM
the s17 pro controller will work on my s17. it will show the gear as a s17 pro.

it will do the lowest setting flawlessly.

it needs an occasional reboot on middle speed.

it does not do well on turbo runs very hot and shuts down.

but the low setting it is very good.

i only played around with one s17 as i only have 1 s17.
copper member
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Clueless!
December 04, 2019, 01:43:16 PM
[...]

Again, good to know, from those of us on the sidlelines I always wondered what the difference was between T17 and S17 and S17 pro was. I assume the S17 pro has the better bin'd chips and such? Perhaps firmware improvements besides speed settings?

(munches popcorn in bleachers..till 10c kWh mining comes back, I'm on the injured reserved list for ASIC mining! Smiley

Brad
sr. member
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December 04, 2019, 01:08:16 AM
How much do you wanna bet that they will add sleep mode and/or Low Power mode in firmware for 17e models as soon as btc halving happens?
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
December 03, 2019, 11:35:33 PM
the t17e is not much. one speed and pulls 3356 watts

gear like this is poorly designed and serves not much purpose.

as 3356/53th = not too good.

it runs hot in a very well vented room.

i do not recomend buying the t17e or the s17e.

the s17 and s17 pro are better since they have multiple speeds.

yeah i know run gear hard and fast seems good way to earn coins.

well the gear breaks and overheating happens.

if you can cool or vent gear ⚙️ properly it is okay. but lots of us don’t ac we only vent .

in the summer turning gear down is good option.  and the 17e gear does not have it.
copper member
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Clueless!
December 03, 2019, 10:37:29 PM
hmmm...

well, do you figure they maxed the puppies out to get more into a box? Or is that overkill and not needed? In other words are they reaching a limit on how these puppies are made size wise?

not getting any anyway..some people have hobbies... I sit in the ASIC bleachers and 'mope' about my ONE never to ROI Bitmain S9i on https://slushpool.com.

Ack! Far I have fallen from my ASIC Miner addiction and my 'glory' days. Well, hell, at least I can watch and eat popcorn!

Brad
jr. member
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December 03, 2019, 09:37:48 PM
limiting the under/overclock is probably to sell binned chips for more as an (e/+) model
sr. member
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December 03, 2019, 06:57:04 PM
There are no "power settings" per se. You just power it on and it works on default speed (auto detects best frequency and power draw (voltage), as far as I can see). In General settings you can only edit pool info. But as usual you can access Advanced Settings by typing:

Code:
http://192.168.0.12/cgi-bin/minerAdvanced.cgi

instead of:

Code:
http://192.168.0.12/cgi-bin/minerStatus.cgi

However, miner totally ignores any frequency you give to it and forwards with its auto-speed default setting.
Frequency usually ranges between 423 and 438.
Also as I said previously, it has this line near the end of Kernel Log:

Code:
frequency.c:161:get_ideal_hash_rate_GH: ideal_hash_rate = 66971

Which probably indicates it's target speed. So far after few restarts, it worked between 68 and 67 TH/s, however, after 24h or so, it would drop to around 66 TH/s which is still higher than rated 64 TH/s that is also indicated near the end of Kernel Log via this line:

Code:
frequency.c:180:get_sale_hash_rate_GH: sale_hash_rate = 64000
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