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Topic: Bitmain to release S17E 64TH - page 9. (Read 4433 times)

member
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September 18, 2019, 12:32:46 PM
All good points, but how good is deal if btc goes to 12k, 14k or higher before December?  Kinda seems like Bitmain wants us to buy their product now.
legendary
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September 18, 2019, 12:14:08 PM

They mentioned that coupons will issued before 18th sep, but nothing showed up yet, maybe they mean 2020? Anyhow keep in mind that you won't get to use two coupons for one miner, so you won't get a114$ coupon, it may make more sense to buy a 500$ coupon than using your own coupons if you plan on buying T17,S17,T17e or S17e.

Anyhow the coupons should show up soon, i will keep you guys updated with their prices.
legendary
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September 18, 2019, 10:08:29 AM
I am waiting until I get the coupons from my s9k's  2 s9k's 310 - 253 =57 bucks     so I should get 57 + 57 = 114  If I don't get that  I don't buy.

So Far I do not see that.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 2541
EIN: 82-3893490
September 18, 2019, 10:00:04 AM
maybe but if the prices drop AND I can snag a coupon, then it will be even a better deal (that being said, I am sitting here with 2 T17's in my cart right now....)
legendary
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September 18, 2019, 09:29:28 AM
I may wait and see what coupons people get and buy some coupons and get some gear then.

Might be too late Smiley

Anyone notice, there are T17E and T17-38 are live for 1st Dec if you are interested.

Looks like limit of 2 per customer per batch
legendary
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September 18, 2019, 09:26:09 AM
I may wait and see what coupons people get and buy some coupons and get some gear then.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
September 18, 2019, 09:14:19 AM
Depends on your building goals.  I have a lot of  power left to fill.  But if you don't have much room to expand  this deal  is not so good.
legendary
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September 18, 2019, 09:03:52 AM
if prices drop before  it ships they give a coupon

You have to also keep in mind that the real value of the coupon is never 100%, depending on the overall market conditions at the time of issuing the coupon ( gear price, bitcoin price, difficulty, buyers liquidity etc..) those coupons could be worth as low as 10% of their face value.

in other words, let's say you pay 1529$ for the T17e Dec batch, and then price drops to 1029$ , you get a 500$ coupon, so it may seem like you have paid only 1029$ but in reality if you want to sell that coupon, you may only get an offer of say 100$ because that is what the coupon market price is (hypothetically) , so in reality you paid 1429$ and not 1029$ because if you were to buy the coupon for 100$ the miner would cost you 1029$+100$ = 1129$ which means you paid 300$ more for the same gear.

While there is no guarantee about the coupon actual values by then, but sure thing it's never 100%, throughout bitmain coupon history the value goes from 10% to 40% , it only goes pass 40% in very rare scenarios, in fact in many cases nobody wants those coupons, I have personally had more than 200 coupons expired in my account, i know people who had a much larger number of expired coupons, simply because at some point of time nobody wants to pay a dime for the coupon, in fact they wouldn't want them for free neither.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
September 18, 2019, 08:45:42 AM
You can not exceed the price given

so in the case of the s17e on sale right now:

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020190917150939672JFWahe97068C   due to ship dec 11-20

the reference price of 2544 is the most you can pay

if prices drop before  it ships they give a coupon

Ie if it is   only 2000 on dec 1  you get a 544 coupon

compare this to the m20s  https://pangolinminer.com/product/whatsminer-m20-series/

2510  jan 1 - jan 15
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 2541
EIN: 82-3893490
September 18, 2019, 08:16:02 AM
and what would they do if the transaction price was higher? make you pay more?

also - does anyone have any valid coupons even? I used to get them by the dozens for prior orders but I have made 4 or 5 orders now and have received none.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
September 18, 2019, 08:08:52 AM
#99
I just got this for my s9k order totally unexpected  the price war has started!

Quote from: Bitmain
Actual Transaction Price of Antminer S9k-13.5TH/s
Sep 18 at 7:21 AM

webmaster @ bitmaintech . com
To: phil... @ yahoo.com
Dear customer,
Thank you very much for your purchase of our products.  
You are receiving this email to inform you that we will issue the Actual Transaction Price of Antminer S9k-13.5TH/s(Shipping date: 20-30, Sep. 2019)
 
Item No.
Product Reference Price
Actual Transaction Price
Antminer S9k-13.5T
310USD
253USD
 
1. If the Actual Transaction Price of the product is lower than the Product Reference Price, the remaining amount will be generated in your account.
You may use the remaining amount to purchase additional products at the Actual Transaction Price, or you may use the remaining amount to purchase
other products shown on the website that are available for purchasing.
2. If the actual price of our same product is lower than the Actual Transaction Price within 10 natural days after the delivery of the products (i.e., delivering to the carrier)
(hereinafter referred to as the “Insured period”), we will calculate the difference of the Actual Transaction Price and the lowest actual price during the Insured Period,
and issue the coupons of the same amount as the difference to you. The usage rules of coupons are subject to the instructions upon coupons issuance.
member
Activity: 287
Merit: 18
September 18, 2019, 05:33:54 AM
#98
Well the reference price is a new idea...

microbt cant beat that...if they could they would...inno is and has always been in a "outfielder" position Wink
legendary
Activity: 4382
Merit: 9330
'The right to privacy matters'
September 17, 2019, 09:47:10 PM
#97
I'm not seeing Trump taxes going away before the election. China is trying to run out the clock. In my opinion, more chance of tariffs going up by December.

Maybe it is possible you are correct.
hero member
Activity: 544
Merit: 589
September 17, 2019, 07:54:10 PM
#96
Ordering the s17 for dec may be smart to do if trump taxes are ended it becomes a very good deal to buy one.

I'm not seeing Trump taxes going away before the election. China is trying to run out the clock. In my opinion, more chance of tariffs going up by December.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 2541
EIN: 82-3893490
September 17, 2019, 07:43:42 PM
#95
yea. debating it. still in the air if I just ride out what I have until after the halving. I am super intrigued to see what happens when rewards are slashed - will huge farms shut off? will the difficulty drop back under 10? or even lower? how much will transaction fees increase? if they go too high, I can see that as a huge turn off for people trading --- all again depending on how the price climbs as well.
legendary
Activity: 4382
Merit: 9330
'The right to privacy matters'
September 17, 2019, 07:27:34 PM
#94
Ordering the s17 for dec may be smart to do if trump taxes are ended it becomes a very good deal to buy one.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 2541
EIN: 82-3893490
September 17, 2019, 07:25:34 PM
#93
These are trump tax 800 is the cut off.

I will soon see this as my s9 order is 798 usd

thanks. wasnt sure if it was 800 or 1000
legendary
Activity: 4382
Merit: 9330
'The right to privacy matters'
September 17, 2019, 07:17:51 PM
#92
Well the reference price is a new idea.

Last week they had a stupid high price 3200 or 3300 for it.

The 2544 is much better for the s17e

2544/64 = 39.75

2107/53 = 39.75.  S17.

Both are good numbers it is the lessor efficient model.

But this is an insurance policy for a miner.

Buy an s17 for 2107. The price will not go up.

But if conditions change they will issue a coupon to make up for it.

So if the m20 is dropping and lots of other gear is dropping in price.

You may get a four or five hundred dollar coupon for more gear.

No one else is offering this preorder insurance.

I see it as a direct attack on Whatsminer gear. Since most of the gear is priced out to Jan.
I also see it as an attack against the innosilicon t3 50t which is now promised to ship under 8 days.
hero member
Activity: 544
Merit: 589
September 17, 2019, 07:14:23 PM
#91
It would be nice if they gave us a formula for how they'd calculate the price. At least what circumstances would lead to a lower price. If a competitor releases a 45W/TH miner at a lower price for Dec. delivery, will the match it?
legendary
Activity: 4382
Merit: 9330
'The right to privacy matters'
September 17, 2019, 06:42:05 PM
#90
what's the price limit to avoid tariff?

These are trump tax 800 is the cut off.

I will soon see this as my s9 order is 798 usd
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