Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 265.

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Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

I just attempted to with one of my S9's it didn't work for me.

you probably have to use a proxy.

this is what i use
https://github.com/Stratehm/stratum-proxy

Shortened as so long but I just tried zpool and am having no issues mining direct to it. Will test for 30 minutess or so and post a screenshot but right now it seems to work just a tad slower my batch one is getting: 13,797.82 but have only ran for 3 minutes.

So looking promising as far as running it. Is zpool really paying that well?

With stratehm it is noticeably more stable for S7 and S9, the S9 is significantly better than the S7 and I have never had my batch 3 lock up. The servers are not tremendously stable so expect to get 0.0002-0.0003 lower payout than what is listed by way of failovers, but you'll still get some good profitability.

Seems to be same results after 30 minute's. No issues mining direct from a batch 1 S9. Site is possibly slow though as in 30 minutes it show's hashrate much slower on zpool site. Guess will see in a while if it catches up hopefully.:

I did lose a little hash compared to a normal pool (I've tested many on it). Has anyone used this pool much is it really paying out so good consistently?

You'll find my miners there when profitability is doing well (>.0018), no complaints all around. You'll sometimes find profitability will get mis-reported a bit due to the exchanges they use, but it's never too bad.

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Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

I just attempted to with one of my S9's it didn't work for me.

you probably have to use a proxy.

this is what i use
https://github.com/Stratehm/stratum-proxy

Shortened as so long but I just tried zpool and am having no issues mining direct to it. Will test for 30 minutess or so and post a screenshot but right now it seems to work just a tad slower my batch one is getting: 13,797.82 but have only ran for 3 minutes.

So looking promising as far as running it. Is zpool really paying that well?

With stratehm it is noticeably more stable for S7 and S9, the S9 is significantly better than the S7 and I have never had my batch 3 lock up. The servers are not tremendously stable so expect to get 0.0002-0.0003 lower payout than what is listed by way of failovers, but you'll still get some good profitability.

Seems to be same results after 30 minute's. No issues mining direct from a batch 1 S9. Site is possibly slow though as in 30 minutes it show's hashrate much slower on zpool site. Guess will see in a while if it catches up hopefully.:

I did lose a little hash compared to a normal pool (I've tested many on it). Has anyone used this pool much is it really paying out so good consistently?

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Quote from: edonkey on August 11, 2016, 02:49:32 PM

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Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

I just attempted to with one of my S9's it didn't work for me.

you probably have to use a proxy.

this is what i use
https://github.com/Stratehm/stratum-proxy

Shortened as so long but I just tried zpool and am having no issues mining direct to it. Will test for 30 minutess or so and post a screenshot but right now it seems to work just a tad slower my batch one is getting: 13,797.82 but have only ran for 3 minutes.

So looking promising as far as running it. Is zpool really paying that well?

With stratehm it is noticeably more stable for S7 and S9, the S9 is significantly better than the S7 and I have never had my batch 3 lock up. The servers are not tremendously stable so expect to get 0.0002-0.0003 lower payout than what is listed by way of failovers, but you'll still get some good profitability.

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Quote from: edonkey on August 11, 2016, 02:49:32 PM

.....

Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

I just attempted to with one of my S9's it didn't work for me.

you probably have to use a proxy.

this is what i use
https://github.com/Stratehm/stratum-proxy

Shortened as so long but I just tried zpool and am having no issues mining direct to it. Will test for 30 minutess or so and post a screenshot but right now it seems to work just a tad slower my batch one is getting: 13,797.82 but have only ran for 3 minutes.

So looking promising as far as running it. Is zpool really paying that well?

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Since the halving these things are not earning very much at all. I have 2 of them, one of them I got at under 3 BTC with a couple weeks to mine before the halving, and it still looks like it is going to be a long, long time before these ROI and that's without any electricity costs. I have one underclocked and the other setup to underclock for 6 hours a day and then do stock clock for the other 18 hours. Based on what others have said about failure rates this looks like a bigger gamble than I had anticipated.

And what really sucks is that it comes on the heels of S7's that still haven't hit ROI with free electricity and decent resale price on two of them. In about 2 months I should hit an overall break-even on the S7's since I still have an early batch unit mining at an average 5.02 Th/s but if not for the resale prices those things would have been a loss for sure. Wondering if the S9's might be better sold at this point rather than gamble on them lasting long enough to get my BTC back.

you should check out zpool.. it pays out almost as much as prehalving bitcoin.. its also not effected by bitcoin difficulty..

According to the zpool site it returns 0.0018 per THs. Not clear if that's before or after the 2% fee.

That's a 45% increase over straight BTC mining with a 2% fee and 100% luck.

Are you mining there and really seeing these numbers?

yes, its kind of picky about how you setup your miners tho.. check the zpool thread in the mining altcoin section.

i have 2 s7s, underclocked to 525 @ 3500 ghs (7000 ghs total) and i make around .01 to .012 a day in bitcoin.
keep in mind that value fluctuates on current market price of the coins being mined.. you can check the daily running stats on https://poolpicker.eu/table?algo=sha-256

Thanks for getting back to me. That's very interesting.

But you're not running any S9's against zpool. I seem to remember someone indicating earlier in this thread that S9s did not work well with alts. Not sure if I'm misremembering or not.

And of course since Bitmain hasn't provided the sources to their modified miner, it can't be reviewed.

Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

I just attempted to with one of my S9's it didn't work for me.

you probably have to use a proxy.

this is what i use
https://github.com/Stratehm/stratum-proxy

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Quote from: edonkey on August 11, 2016, 02:49:32 PM

Quote from: aarons6 on August 11, 2016, 02:14:35 PM

Quote from: edonkey on August 11, 2016, 01:32:23 PM

Quote from: aarons6 on August 10, 2016, 11:57:12 PM

Quote from: not.you on August 10, 2016, 08:33:56 PM

Since the halving these things are not earning very much at all. I have 2 of them, one of them I got at under 3 BTC with a couple weeks to mine before the halving, and it still looks like it is going to be a long, long time before these ROI and that's without any electricity costs. I have one underclocked and the other setup to underclock for 6 hours a day and then do stock clock for the other 18 hours. Based on what others have said about failure rates this looks like a bigger gamble than I had anticipated.

And what really sucks is that it comes on the heels of S7's that still haven't hit ROI with free electricity and decent resale price on two of them. In about 2 months I should hit an overall break-even on the S7's since I still have an early batch unit mining at an average 5.02 Th/s but if not for the resale prices those things would have been a loss for sure. Wondering if the S9's might be better sold at this point rather than gamble on them lasting long enough to get my BTC back.

you should check out zpool.. it pays out almost as much as prehalving bitcoin.. its also not effected by bitcoin difficulty..

According to the zpool site it returns 0.0018 per THs. Not clear if that's before or after the 2% fee.

That's a 45% increase over straight BTC mining with a 2% fee and 100% luck.

Are you mining there and really seeing these numbers?

yes, its kind of picky about how you setup your miners tho.. check the zpool thread in the mining altcoin section.

i have 2 s7s, underclocked to 525 @ 3500 ghs (7000 ghs total) and i make around .01 to .012 a day in bitcoin.
keep in mind that value fluctuates on current market price of the coins being mined.. you can check the daily running stats on https://poolpicker.eu/table?algo=sha-256

Thanks for getting back to me. That's very interesting.

But you're not running any S9's against zpool. I seem to remember someone indicating earlier in this thread that S9s did not work well with alts. Not sure if I'm misremembering or not.

And of course since Bitmain hasn't provided the sources to their modified miner, it can't be reviewed.

Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

I just attempted to with one of my S9's it didn't work for me.

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Quote from: aarons6 on August 11, 2016, 02:14:35 PM

Quote from: edonkey on August 11, 2016, 01:32:23 PM

Quote from: aarons6 on August 10, 2016, 11:57:12 PM

Quote from: not.you on August 10, 2016, 08:33:56 PM

Since the halving these things are not earning very much at all. I have 2 of them, one of them I got at under 3 BTC with a couple weeks to mine before the halving, and it still looks like it is going to be a long, long time before these ROI and that's without any electricity costs. I have one underclocked and the other setup to underclock for 6 hours a day and then do stock clock for the other 18 hours. Based on what others have said about failure rates this looks like a bigger gamble than I had anticipated.

And what really sucks is that it comes on the heels of S7's that still haven't hit ROI with free electricity and decent resale price on two of them. In about 2 months I should hit an overall break-even on the S7's since I still have an early batch unit mining at an average 5.02 Th/s but if not for the resale prices those things would have been a loss for sure. Wondering if the S9's might be better sold at this point rather than gamble on them lasting long enough to get my BTC back.

you should check out zpool.. it pays out almost as much as prehalving bitcoin.. its also not effected by bitcoin difficulty..

According to the zpool site it returns 0.0018 per THs. Not clear if that's before or after the 2% fee.

That's a 45% increase over straight BTC mining with a 2% fee and 100% luck.

Are you mining there and really seeing these numbers?

yes, its kind of picky about how you setup your miners tho.. check the zpool thread in the mining altcoin section.

i have 2 s7s, underclocked to 525 @ 3500 ghs (7000 ghs total) and i make around .01 to .012 a day in bitcoin.
keep in mind that value fluctuates on current market price of the coins being mined.. you can check the daily running stats on https://poolpicker.eu/table?algo=sha-256

Thanks for getting back to me. That's very interesting.

But you're not running any S9's against zpool. I seem to remember someone indicating earlier in this thread that S9s did not work well with alts. Not sure if I'm misremembering or not.

And of course since Bitmain hasn't provided the sources to their modified miner, it can't be reviewed.

Anyone out there using S9s successfully with zpool?

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Quote from: edonkey on August 11, 2016, 01:32:23 PM

Quote from: aarons6 on August 10, 2016, 11:57:12 PM

Quote from: not.you on August 10, 2016, 08:33:56 PM

Since the halving these things are not earning very much at all. I have 2 of them, one of them I got at under 3 BTC with a couple weeks to mine before the halving, and it still looks like it is going to be a long, long time before these ROI and that's without any electricity costs. I have one underclocked and the other setup to underclock for 6 hours a day and then do stock clock for the other 18 hours. Based on what others have said about failure rates this looks like a bigger gamble than I had anticipated.

And what really sucks is that it comes on the heels of S7's that still haven't hit ROI with free electricity and decent resale price on two of them. In about 2 months I should hit an overall break-even on the S7's since I still have an early batch unit mining at an average 5.02 Th/s but if not for the resale prices those things would have been a loss for sure. Wondering if the S9's might be better sold at this point rather than gamble on them lasting long enough to get my BTC back.

you should check out zpool.. it pays out almost as much as prehalving bitcoin.. its also not effected by bitcoin difficulty..

According to the zpool site it returns 0.0018 per THs. Not clear if that's before or after the 2% fee.

That's a 45% increase over straight BTC mining with a 2% fee and 100% luck.

Are you mining there and really seeing these numbers?

yes, its kind of picky about how you setup your miners tho.. check the zpool thread in the mining altcoin section.

i have 2 s7s, underclocked to 525 @ 3500 ghs (7000 ghs total) and i make around .01 to .012 a day in bitcoin.
keep in mind that value fluctuates on current market price of the coins being mined.. you can check the daily running stats on https://poolpicker.eu/table?algo=sha-256

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Quote from: edonkey on August 11, 2016, 01:32:23 PM

Quote from: aarons6 on August 10, 2016, 11:57:12 PM

Quote from: not.you on August 10, 2016, 08:33:56 PM

Since the halving these things are not earning very much at all. I have 2 of them, one of them I got at under 3 BTC with a couple weeks to mine before the halving, and it still looks like it is going to be a long, long time before these ROI and that's without any electricity costs. I have one underclocked and the other setup to underclock for 6 hours a day and then do stock clock for the other 18 hours. Based on what others have said about failure rates this looks like a bigger gamble than I had anticipated.

And what really sucks is that it comes on the heels of S7's that still haven't hit ROI with free electricity and decent resale price on two of them. In about 2 months I should hit an overall break-even on the S7's since I still have an early batch unit mining at an average 5.02 Th/s but if not for the resale prices those things would have been a loss for sure. Wondering if the S9's might be better sold at this point rather than gamble on them lasting long enough to get my BTC back.

you should check out zpool.. it pays out almost as much as prehalving bitcoin.. its also not effected by bitcoin difficulty..

According to the zpool site it returns 0.0018 per THs. Not clear if that's before or after the 2% fee.

That's a 45% increase over straight BTC mining with a 2% fee and 100% luck.

Are you mining there and really seeing these numbers?

I'm very curious to know the answer to this.

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Quote from: aarons6 on August 10, 2016, 11:57:12 PM

Quote from: not.you on August 10, 2016, 08:33:56 PM

Since the halving these things are not earning very much at all. I have 2 of them, one of them I got at under 3 BTC with a couple weeks to mine before the halving, and it still looks like it is going to be a long, long time before these ROI and that's without any electricity costs. I have one underclocked and the other setup to underclock for 6 hours a day and then do stock clock for the other 18 hours. Based on what others have said about failure rates this looks like a bigger gamble than I had anticipated.

And what really sucks is that it comes on the heels of S7's that still haven't hit ROI with free electricity and decent resale price on two of them. In about 2 months I should hit an overall break-even on the S7's since I still have an early batch unit mining at an average 5.02 Th/s but if not for the resale prices those things would have been a loss for sure. Wondering if the S9's might be better sold at this point rather than gamble on them lasting long enough to get my BTC back.

you should check out zpool.. it pays out almost as much as prehalving bitcoin.. its also not effected by bitcoin difficulty..

According to the zpool site it returns 0.0018 per THs. Not clear if that's before or after the 2% fee.

That's a 45% increase over straight BTC mining with a 2% fee and 100% luck.

Are you mining there and really seeing these numbers?

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Quote from: not.you on August 10, 2016, 08:33:56 PM

Since the halving these things are not earning very much at all. I have 2 of them, one of them I got at under 3 BTC with a couple weeks to mine before the halving, and it still looks like it is going to be a long, long time before these ROI and that's without any electricity costs. I have one underclocked and the other setup to underclock for 6 hours a day and then do stock clock for the other 18 hours. Based on what others have said about failure rates this looks like a bigger gamble than I had anticipated.

And what really sucks is that it comes on the heels of S7's that still haven't hit ROI with free electricity and decent resale price on two of them. In about 2 months I should hit an overall break-even on the S7's since I still have an early batch unit mining at an average 5.02 Th/s but if not for the resale prices those things would have been a loss for sure. Wondering if the S9's might be better sold at this point rather than gamble on them lasting long enough to get my BTC back.

you should check out zpool.. it pays out almost as much as prehalving bitcoin.. its also not effected by bitcoin difficulty..

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Quote from: sidehack on August 10, 2016, 11:24:36 PM

You can send those other S7s if you want. I got room for 'em.

I might do that. I only need one spare to um, tinker with... ref https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15884808

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You can send those other S7s if you want. I got room for 'em.

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Quote from: not.you on August 10, 2016, 10:05:41 PM

That's actually more or less what I have done. I started with GPU mining BTC and saved my mining earnings and bought up over time and so on just as you said. However I have always been running these things at work, and even though I could technically add more miners, as the power requirements have increased I haven't felt ok with growing the mine to the limits of the facilities. I have stated on these boards before that my boss knows about my miners and doesn't care, but I do care that I don't take advantage of the company, and the electricity that I don't pay for but get to use. So yes I could add more hashrate but I am limiting myself to just three miners over about 1200Watts. I have some smaller stuff mining alts but I only have 2 S9's and an S7 for BTC and I don't really see myself growing the BTC farm with current power requirements. Back in the days of the S1's and S3's I had quite a few more but at some point I would need to move to hosted in order not to feel like I was abusing the situation and I can't see that hosted would make ROI at all.

Similar deal at work for me (though I'm a partner in the business) but I've capped myself at 18kw there. I was pulling 20kw until I Sidehack'd all of the s7's- and put one more back on line ta boot! With 4 s9's going I've now got 3 or 4 s7's sitting idle that I took offline to replace withe s9's. My other Partner has never objected and just views it as part of keeping me happy so I can do the voodoo that I do so well. But still, same desire to not take advantage applies.

As Mel Brooks said, It's GOOD to be King! Wink

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That's actually more or less what I have done. I started with GPU mining BTC and saved my mining earnings and bought up over time and so on just as you said. However I have always been running these things at work, and even though I could technically add more miners, as the power requirements have increased I haven't felt ok with growing the mine to the limits of the facilities. I have stated on these boards before that my boss knows about my miners and doesn't care, but I do care that I don't take advantage of the company, and the electricity that I don't pay for but get to use. So yes I could add more hashrate but I am limiting myself to just three miners over about 1200Watts. I have some smaller stuff mining alts but I only have 2 S9's and an S7 for BTC and I don't really see myself growing the BTC farm with current power requirements. Back in the days of the S1's and S3's I had quite a few more but at some point I would need to move to hosted in order not to feel like I was abusing the situation and I can't see that hosted would make ROI at all.

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Quote from: not.you on August 10, 2016, 08:33:56 PM

Since the halving these things are not earning very much at all. I have 2 of them, one of them I got at under 3 BTC with a couple weeks to mine before the halving, and it still looks like it is going to be a long, long time before these ROI and that's without any electricity costs. I have one underclocked and the other setup to underclock for 6 hours a day and then do stock clock for the other 18 hours. Based on what others have said about failure rates this looks like a bigger gamble than I had anticipated.

And what really sucks is that it comes on the heels of S7's that still haven't hit ROI with free electricity and decent resale price on two of them. In about 2 months I should hit an overall break-even on the S7's since I still have an early batch unit mining at an average 5.02 Th/s but if not for the resale prices those things would have been a loss for sure. Wondering if the S9's might be better sold at this point rather than gamble on them lasting long enough to get my BTC back.

With free power (most of mine is as well) you just have to run them long enough to ROI based on what it alone produces. Hell I have B1's still running and given the time, long ago paid for even just on what income each has produced. But...

What is better is to roll a miners income back into a kitty to be used for upgrades/expansion. Once you have a decent farm started, look at the farm income -- not necessarily per-machine income. Even with the halving, with my farm running ~125-130THs it pays for a new s9 in about 14 days. When not upgrading/expanding it's income grows rather nicely now.

Ja for the 1st couple of miners it can be a bitch but that will be your only need for any real out-of-pocket expenses. Once things get going then the fun starts Cheesy

Just gotta start somewhere and look at the long term goal.

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Since the halving these things are not earning very much at all. I have 2 of them, one of them I got at under 3 BTC with a couple weeks to mine before the halving, and it still looks like it is going to be a long, long time before these ROI and that's without any electricity costs. I have one underclocked and the other setup to underclock for 6 hours a day and then do stock clock for the other 18 hours. Based on what others have said about failure rates this looks like a bigger gamble than I had anticipated.

And what really sucks is that it comes on the heels of S7's that still haven't hit ROI with free electricity and decent resale price on two of them. In about 2 months I should hit an overall break-even on the S7's since I still have an early batch unit mining at an average 5.02 Th/s but if not for the resale prices those things would have been a loss for sure. Wondering if the S9's might be better sold at this point rather than gamble on them lasting long enough to get my BTC back.

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Quote from: -droid- on August 10, 2016, 11:41:32 AM

Quote from: bitcoinbarron on August 10, 2016, 11:33:05 AM

I am hoping that the fact Bitmain have gone quiet with releasing batches of the S9. That they have taken it back to the drawing board to find out why they are so unreliable.

Its a nice thought anyway

no they are simply replacing the S7's in their farm with S9's and sending bulk orders to other china farms

No doubt that the Chinese farms are a monster market that needs to be taken care of but not all mega farms are in China or Asia in general folks... Get over it.
ref: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15721138
which is a 5MW farm being built in Labrador. Power there is $0.025 per kWh
They mention when full will hold "Thousands of s9's"

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Quote from: -droid- on August 10, 2016, 11:41:32 AM

Quote from: bitcoinbarron on August 10, 2016, 11:33:05 AM

I am hoping that the fact Bitmain have gone quiet with releasing batches of the S9. That they have taken it back to the drawing board to find out why they are so unreliable.

Its a nice thought anyway

no they are simply replacing the S7's in their farm with S9's and sending bulk orders to other china farms

Judging by the increased hash rate, I think you are right.

-droid-

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Quote from: bitcoinbarron on August 10, 2016, 11:33:05 AM

I am hoping that the fact Bitmain have gone quiet with releasing batches of the S9. That they have taken it back to the drawing board to find out why they are so unreliable.

Its a nice thought anyway

no they are simply replacing the S7's in their farm with S9's and sending bulk orders to other china farms

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