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Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 338. (Read 531164 times)

legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Also remember they are high quality programmers and every good programmer I have ever know was just a bit off center.  
Or maybe I am just a bit jelly of,the ability to be a high quality programmer as I do. Or,have that skill set.

There is a huge difference between being a massive bellend and a bit off center.

The bellends don't make it very far in the "real world" - You either learn to play nice with your team and co-workers, or your career is likely to be short at any publicly traded company.

Most, if not all of the brilliant engineers I know, do indeed have their own idiosyncrasies, but they aren't bellends. The people like Kano wouldn't last long on any team I've ever worked with, and people like Luke-Jr wouldn't make it to an interview stage after doing a background check on him. ck seems more like the people I've dealt with in my time - someone that may have a bad day here and there, but doesn't generally go around making life miserable for his team.

Sorry for the derail. Should probably get back on topic about how Bitmain likes to ignore the license and refuse to release cgminer updates, while exploiting the code for monetary gain.

Or is the topic how many of these will we buy?  I liquidated a lot of gear looking to order a third and or fourth.
legendary
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CK - my question was mostly rhetorical. I know all the business reasons why people deal with China. I also know (and for the most part represent) all the reasons why some people refuse to deal with China.
That I understood, however that doesn't stop people asking the questions so every so often an old bastard like me has to spell it out as clearly as possible.

Nothing wrong with that. As old bastard in training, I respect the point.

[laughing]... so, where is the demarcation line between OB in training vs OB?
I am firmly in the OB category already, regardless.

The demarcation line is called male balding pattern: you have it? you're OB, you don't? trainee.

 My grandpa still had a full head of hair in his 90s. Some of us are lucky and don't GET "male balding pattern" to a significant degree if at all.

legendary
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Can someone opine whether two S9 would be able to run on one 2880w PSU?
Thanks

no  unless you downclock to 13th.


but this is a complete and absolute guess.

2x S9's @ 1375W DC each will draw 2750W, which would be 95.5% load on PSU.  They should hold up just fine at stock clock unless ambient temp is very high.

legendary
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aka "whocares"
I personally could care less if it mines on -ck and/or Kano's software and pools or not.  Speaking of bastards, I think both of them are egotistical bastards.

For what it's worth, I've found ck to be a decent and helpful guy. Maybe a bit short sometimes, but not anywhere close to being a bellend like Kano.

And then there is Luke-Jr which is another level of crazy bastard altogether.


Yeah ck then Kano then Luke

Sort of 2  then 4 then 16

Shitty iPad does not do squared and cubed correctly .

I don't use Luke much at all.

I use ck and Kano quite a bit.


Also remember they are high quality programmers and every good programmer I have ever know was just a bit off center.   

Or maybe I am just a bit jelly of,the ability to be a high quality programmer as I do. Or,have that skill set.

I would personally pick Luke Jr, as I have done in the past and will do so on future projects.  He is an honest and polite individual in my eyes.  I have mined on Kano.is since the beginning (when I am mining Bitcoin), and have respect for them, just not to the level I respect Luke Jr.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I personally could care less if it mines on -ck and/or Kano's software and pools or not.  Speaking of bastards, I think both of them are egotistical bastards.

For what it's worth, I've found ck to be a decent and helpful guy. Maybe a bit short sometimes, but not anywhere close to being a bellend like Kano.

And then there is Luke-Jr which is another level of crazy bastard altogether.


Yeah ck then Kano then Luke

Sort of 2  then 4 then 16

Shitty iPad does not do squared and cubed correctly .

I don't use Luke much at all.

I use ck and Kano quite a bit.


Also remember they are high quality programmers and every good programmer I have ever know was just a bit off center.  

Or maybe I am just a bit jelly of,the ability to be a high quality programmer as I do not have that skill set.
legendary
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Coins, Games & Miners
CK - my question was mostly rhetorical. I know all the business reasons why people deal with China. I also know (and for the most part represent) all the reasons why some people refuse to deal with China.
That I understood, however that doesn't stop people asking the questions so every so often an old bastard like me has to spell it out as clearly as possible.

Nothing wrong with that. As old bastard in training, I respect the point.

[laughing]... so, where is the demarcation line between OB in training vs OB?
I am firmly in the OB category already, regardless.

The demarcation line is called male balding pattern: you have it? you're OB, you don't? trainee.
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
Yep. Honest and polite is the best way to go, but if you have to pick one always pick honesty.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I personally could care less if it mines on -ck and/or Kano's software and pools or not.  Speaking of bastards, I think both of them are egotistical bastards.  I would rather mine on Antpool or any other pool than support the software of those 2 guys.  They are condescending and downright rude 98% of the time.

I am all over the new Antminer S9 and if it pisses -ck and Kano off then even better.



    
Based on the returns at the kano.is pool it looks to me like he practices honesty above manners.  I would like both  but in mining I prefer an honest impolite at times person over a dishonest polite person.

one thing is 100% sure about bitmaintech they do not practice honesty when it comes to software.

As they refuse to honor international laws about using software. BTW deep pockets and proper political connections may one they really hurt them on this.


They still sell good gear.  Which I purchased from them last week.


hero member
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I personally could care less if it mines on -ck and/or Kano's software and pools or not.  Speaking of bastards, I think both of them are egotistical bastards.  I would rather mine on Antpool or any other pool than support the software of those 2 guys.  They are condescending and downright rude 98% of the time.

I am all over the new Antminer S9 and if it pisses -ck and Kano off then even better.

They may be egotistical bastards but I will always support their work and will only mine on pools running ckpool. These guys an an asset to the community, we cannot say so much about antpool.
sr. member
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I personally could care less if it mines on -ck and/or Kano's software and pools or not.  Speaking of bastards, I think both of them are egotistical bastards.  I would rather mine on Antpool or any other pool than support the software of those 2 guys.  They are condescending and downright rude 98% of the time.

I am all over the new Antminer S9 and if it pisses -ck and Kano off then even better.

Meanwhile using CGMiner in your S9, lol.
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
I've got about 40 S7 from various batches in hosting, so if I end up with any of them would save shipping cost. I'm working on a trade for a bunch of S5 but if I come up short I'll let you know.

I also will never mine on Antpool.
sr. member
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I personally could care less if it mines on -ck and/or Kano's software and pools or not.  Speaking of bastards, I think both of them are egotistical bastards.  I would rather mine on Antpool or any other pool than support the software of those 2 guys.  They are condescending and downright rude 98% of the time.

I am all over the new Antminer S9 and if it pisses -ck and Kano off then even better.
legendary
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Merit: 2703
Evil beware: We have waffles!
Sidehack, if you need a 135 chip s7 to play with, looks like I'll have a couple spares after my s9 arrives  (limited power budget) so I can always send you one.

btw: if you need more s5's to strip for making Compacs I have 3 more I can send ya. Wink As for old farts.... Turning 60 here next mo right around the Halving.
legendary
Activity: 3374
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
Well, I have a unique background. My father is a jack-of-all-trades carpenter and the son of a civil engineer; my mother is an English teacher, the daughter of a math teacher and a telephone lineman (farmers both), so I grew up alternating between swinging a hammer and digesting classic Literature. Alongside my engineering and science degrees I took enough English classes in college that I'm one shy of a minor in writing - something I might complete if I can afford to get back in this fall.

Oh yeah, and hardware is overpriced. I'm looking forward to my S7LN getting shipped any day now, so I can play around with optimized undervolting. Might pick up some cheap 135-chip S7s after the halving and crank 'em down to baseline efficiency. If any of Hawkfish's machines in my hosting are still up for grabs by then we might strike a deal.

Probably won't have any 16nm gear of my own until I'm running stuff I've built myself. Don't really have the budget anymore for a $2100 miner, not when that's more than I paid for my old-enough-to-drink car.
legendary
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Well, I just turned 30 last month so I don't think I qualify yet.

Wait a minute. You just turned 30 and you know how to write?

I don't know how you pulled that off. By your sense of grammar I thought for sure that you were at least in your fifties  Wink

Sorry for getting off topic. Returning to our regularly scheduled overpriced hardware thread...
legendary
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Well, I just turned 30 last month so I don't think I qualify yet.

Since healthcare considers people under 25 as children...sure.
Brain development does not stop until we are 25, too.
The funniest age definition I ever encountered was with NIH, which considers people below 42 years old as "young" scientists.
Maybe it is up to 45 now, I just don't know.
legendary
Activity: 3374
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
Well, I just turned 30 last month so I don't think I qualify yet.
legendary
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CK - my question was mostly rhetorical. I know all the business reasons why people deal with China. I also know (and for the most part represent) all the reasons why some people refuse to deal with China.
That I understood, however that doesn't stop people asking the questions so every so often an old bastard like me has to spell it out as clearly as possible.

Nothing wrong with that. As old bastard in training, I respect the point.

[laughing]... so, where is the demarcation line between OB in training vs OB?
I am firmly in the OB category already, regardless.
legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1859
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
CK - my question was mostly rhetorical. I know all the business reasons why people deal with China. I also know (and for the most part represent) all the reasons why some people refuse to deal with China.
That I understood, however that doesn't stop people asking the questions so every so often an old bastard like me has to spell it out as clearly as possible.

Nothing wrong with that. As old bastard in training, I respect the point.
hero member
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I am not going to quote above thread, getting too big. Now it is either S9 or nothing. Come July all of my S7s will not be almost worthless, once they are retired I would still be able to run my S9, 1 S9 will replace 3 S7s but still consume as much as 1 S7 and continue to contribute to the network. I pay 300x or 400x times more than it costs to make for an iPhone, I don't see it any differently.

Depending on the timing, maybe when you're ready to sell your S7s I'll buy them back from you Wink

Again, this is my preference, not an argument for how everyone should make the decision to buy or not.

I have 20 S7s from various batches at two colocation centers. I am willing to let them go now. If interested let me know.
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