Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 344. (Read 531164 times)

Doooode, are you the only punter here who doesn't realize that BTC is going to be worth a gazillion dollars real soon now ?

And btc keeps rising..  about 120$ per machine roi had one bought coin instead of s9.  Same happen with s7.  hmmmm

This is still about making money correct?? Not loaning it out for 12 months with hopes of some interest.  Or the hopes of dumping it on some poor math inept individual.

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d57heinz

They are sold out. So you are lucky to get you. But you might not get ROI if the difficulty rises too fast.

Let me look into my crystal balls,yep gonna be winter for 7 more weeks 

anyone can calculate how long can take profit after halving

 Bitfury's chip has demonstrated comparable performance, if they ever get the bloody thing into MINERS available for sale - depending on how hard they push for hash/chip vs efficiency, they could IN THEORY top the S9 efficiency.

 On the other hand, Bitmain is probably not running THEIR new chip at max efficiency, it was amazing the initial batches of the S7 showed up at the mid-point of the chip's operating range rather than at the top of the voltage range / least efficient point like the later, lower-chip-count batches went to.



 I suspect that "yield limit" issues are behind the low available numbers (so far) on the S9. I'm sure the numbers will ramp up with each batch - not to mention they probably kept quite a few (probably a majority) of the initial month or two of unit manufacture for internal farm/Hashnest use.

Yes. Consider yourself lucky.

Hopefully we won't have to wait too many batches before the price makes sense.

They are no longer for sale on the website.  Are they sold out?

Thank you for the post, one of the best description on the reality of mining... I could add some points to the lists easy.

I am sure you will be back
I am sure you will be back!


Small time miner have the advantage to be able to use the heat...

Mining is just getting interesting.  

I'm not up on this..but what are they figuring 2 more months with ethereum mining is good yet..with the increase in difficulty etc? the that is kinda all she wrote?

curious

(on the other hand a GPU card gets about 2x the $$$ then 1 Titan cube at 2x the price at least how I figured it a month ago...probably Titan cube is not that quite that bad now)

GPU mining again,NO MOAR ASIC's fer me!!! 

I think my mining days are completely over. Bummer, I miss the noise and extra winter heat ;-)

I'm not sure on S5's there are still some places that have "free" or super cheap electricity.   The "free" electricity if they get some bargins on old gear espically.   Granted it is a smaller and smaller subset. And is most cases someone is still footing the bill for the electricity.

But I think S5's will remain on in some places even after having.   I'm not that lucky though I will be needing to be S7 or S9 myself after having.   (Kinda depends on what BTC does)

Out of the 400PH, I am pretty sure most of that hashrate was the S4/S5/SP20 which will still keep running under free electricity.

The S3 and older will probably get mostly turned off.

okay 400 ph was the network size last sept

see below from bitcoinwisdom

Sep 04 2015   56,957,648,455   4.98%   407,718,729 GH/s


all of that is older less efficient then the s-7 or avalon 6

much of it  turns to junk at the ½
current hash is 1,426,731,353 gh


May 24 2016   199,312,067,531   2.60%   1,426,731,353 GH/s


so my thoughts   are if we grow to 1,600,000,000 up to the ½ ing we drop that 400,000,000 and will be at 1,200,000,000

a diff of 166  vs current diff of 199

difficult to even assume as bitmain are restricting sales which to my knowledge, they haven't done in such low numbers before.

good to see that hopes are high but on the other hand, some might be too "high" on what ever that 1 might be smoking, eating or drinking . . .

if 1 thinks//assumes//calculates//hopes :

-BTC price to go up & MAINTAIN at a certain value (what if it doesn't hold long enough for 1 to achieve ROI & make a little profit ?)

-if 1 thinks that if he/she is the ONLY 1 who knows how to mine/upgrade using an S9 & sell off older miners then it's very wrong, because it is the BIG boys game now UNLESS 1 have almost ZERO to NONE maint. costs. & many others will also know to do so too "technically" the global hashrate stays pretty much the same or if not it may even go up !

-hmmm i don't even want to add in downtime such as warranty claims, broken psu or catches fire, fan separation or what so ever & we all know that it's gonna take some time to get the parts back from warranty let alone a reply from the manufacturer, i hope 1 takes this into consideration when it comes to ROI.

-most guys calc the ROI based on 100% luck mining at pool, not everyday is sunday mate, take that into account too.

bla bla bla & the lists goes on & on, not trying to be a bit*H here & i hope someone does look into those points as a +ve 1.

in the meanwhile, leaning back, munching the popcorns & wait for a drop, might get 1 or a few when time is right.

I looked at what happened in November 28th 2012 for the last halving. Yes, it looked like a 30 day period the hash rate went down about 10%. But in another 30 days it was close to the original level.

So if history is any guide (and what else do we have?) then we'll lose about 138 PH/s for a couple of months between July 10th and September 10th. After that it will be business as usual.

I'm not sure where you came up with your 400 PH/s number, but maybe I'm missing something. I'm a bit jet lagged so I'm not sure my math is right.

you are better off if batch 2 comes after ½ ing.

Just keep selling your s-7's and  then hold ½ in cash and ½ in btc.

When the time comes get an s-9 or 2.

there is 400ph in gear older then the s-7  it all dies at the ½ ing .

So there will be a 10 to 15% drop in hashrate.  By bitmaintech holding back on the s-9  doing moderate self mining.  They will make their share of coin.  You will be able to order the batch 2 and get a crack at some money. Around July 4th.