Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 78.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 22, 2017, 04:23:30 PM

THE JAN ORDER may count as a 2018 sale for taxes so by shipping it now it still means they pay taxes for it after 2018.

The dec order if shipped on Jan may count as a 2018 sale for taxes so they won't pay taxes until after 2018.

This is not really how corporate taxes work. Tax authorities does not really care which batch etc you name your product, invoice dates define which tax period you need to report it into.

It quite interesting though that they are so dynamic with their shipping time frames. As long as it is in the positive surprise territory it's all good

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 22, 2017, 04:23:30 PM

Quote from: kotlarz on December 22, 2017, 03:50:44 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 22, 2017, 03:13:09 PM

Quote from: mustangy on December 22, 2017, 10:43:50 AM

i have 8 jan batch
really anyone get jan 21-30 batch already?
dec 1-10 and 21-30 shipped at same time to me

yes I did it came on weds the 20th

but my dec 21st - dec 31st is yet to ship>

annoying and until they ship the dec 21 -31 .

I won't know if I am ahead time wise.

Getting the Jan 21 -31 on Dec 20 is about 43 or 44 days ahead of time.

But if they hold the Dec 21 - 31 for a long time I lose that 44 days.

When did you order the Jan 21-31 batch? My order hasn't shipped shipped yet and I ordered rather early.

as I said it is no big deal as they did not ship my dec 21 -31 batch.

I am not really ahead.

I suspect they shipped the Jan batch in my case because I had a dec order.
So on my end it is a push so far (unless they ship the Dec order very soon )

On their end It as is a Jan date maybe it is a tax benefit for them.

FOLLOW MY LOGIC :

THE JAN ORDER may count as a 2018 sale for taxes so by shipping it now it still means they pay taxes for it after 2018.

The dec order if shipped on Jan may count as a 2018 sale for taxes so they won't pay taxes until after 2018.

On my end I get one order really early and one order like a week late. so if you gain 44 days and lose 7 you gain over 35 days.

In your case if you only have that Jan 21-31 order they don't get to manipulate taxes in their favor so they just send it the correct time.

I also ordered I lot of them since sept 1st 2017 so they may have pushed this out quickly.

Still I am not ahead until I get the dec 21-31 shipped. I think if my logic is correct it will ship on Jan 2 or 3

That logic is sound, can't argue with that hah. Sleazy tactics.

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Quote from: kotlarz on December 22, 2017, 03:50:44 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 22, 2017, 03:13:09 PM

Quote from: mustangy on December 22, 2017, 10:43:50 AM

i have 8 jan batch
really anyone get jan 21-30 batch already?
dec 1-10 and 21-30 shipped at same time to me

yes I did it came on weds the 20th

but my dec 21st - dec 31st is yet to ship>

annoying and until they ship the dec 21 -31 .

I won't know if I am ahead time wise.

Getting the Jan 21 -31 on Dec 20 is about 43 or 44 days ahead of time.

But if they hold the Dec 21 - 31 for a long time I lose that 44 days.

When did you order the Jan 21-31 batch? My order hasn't shipped shipped yet and I ordered rather early.

as I said it is no big deal as they did not ship my dec 21 -31 batch.

I am not really ahead.

I suspect they shipped the Jan batch in my case because I had a dec order.
So on my end it is a push so far (unless they ship the Dec order very soon )

On their end It as is a Jan date maybe it is a tax benefit for them.

FOLLOW MY LOGIC :

THE JAN ORDER may count as a 2018 sale for taxes so by shipping it now it still means they pay taxes for it after 2018.

The dec order if shipped on Jan may count as a 2018 sale for taxes so they won't pay taxes until after 2018.

On my end I get one order really early and one order like a week late. so if you gain 44 days and lose 7 you gain over 35 days.

In your case if you only have that Jan 21-31 order they don't get to manipulate taxes in their favor so they just send it the correct time.

I also ordered I lot of them since sept 1st 2017 so they may have pushed this out quickly.

Still I am not ahead until I get the dec 21-31 shipped. I think if my logic is correct it will ship on Jan 2 or 3

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 22, 2017, 03:13:09 PM

Quote from: mustangy on December 22, 2017, 10:43:50 AM

i have 8 jan batch
really anyone get jan 21-30 batch already?
dec 1-10 and 21-30 shipped at same time to me

yes I did it came on weds the 20th

but my dec 21st - dec 31st is yet to ship>

annoying and until they ship the dec 21 -31 .

I won't know if I am ahead time wise.

Getting the Jan 21 -31 on Dec 20 is about 43 or 44 days ahead of time.

But if they hold the Dec 21 - 31 for a long time I lose that 44 days.

When did you order the Jan 21-31 batch? My order hasn't shipped shipped yet and I ordered rather early.

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Quote from: mustangy on December 22, 2017, 10:43:50 AM

i have 8 jan batch
really anyone get jan 21-30 batch already?
dec 1-10 and 21-30 shipped at same time to me

yes I did it came on weds the 20th

but my dec 21st - dec 31st is yet to ship>

annoying and until they ship the dec 21 -31 .

I won't know if I am ahead time wise.

Getting the Jan 21 -31 on Dec 20 is about 43 or 44 days ahead of time.

But if they hold the Dec 21 - 31 for a long time I lose that 44 days.

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Quote from: mustangy on December 22, 2017, 10:43:50 AM

i have 8 jan batch
really anyone get jan 21-30 batch already?
dec 1-10 and 21-30 shipped at same time to me

Strange thing for me is my Dec PSU's came over 2 weeks ago, though they still say "shipping" on my account. Not "Shipped"

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i have 8 jan batch
really anyone get jan 21-30 batch already?
dec 1-10 and 21-30 shipped at same time to me

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Quote from: taserz on December 21, 2017, 07:35:23 PM

14th/s have issues I have a lot of them.

Changed ethernet cable oddly worked for me man...on 2 occasions lol

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 21, 2017, 01:39:29 PM

Quote from: CrypotoCreanis on December 21, 2017, 10:29:44 AM

Well today is the 1st day of the official Dec 21-30 batch ship dates. Waiting for that email notification.......

Yeah I am mining with my Jan 21-31 2018 order

while I wait for my Dec 21-31 2017 order to ship.

A true WTF?

Maybe they juz labeled it wrong or bitmain wants to delay your christmas present Cheesy

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 21, 2017, 01:39:29 PM

Quote from: CrypotoCreanis on December 21, 2017, 10:29:44 AM

Well today is the 1st day of the official Dec 21-30 batch ship dates. Waiting for that email notification.......

Yeah I am mining with my Jan 21-31 2018 order

while I wait for my Dec 21-31 2017 order to ship.

A true WTF?

[HONG KONG - HONG KONG]Shipment information received

MINE WAS JANUARY BATCH

SENT DECEMBER

BUT STUCK WITH THE ABOVE MESSAGE 4 days

PLEASE JUST SEND THE FKIN MINERS

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 21, 2017, 01:39:29 PM

Quote from: CrypotoCreanis on December 21, 2017, 10:29:44 AM

Well today is the 1st day of the official Dec 21-30 batch ship dates. Waiting for that email notification.......

Yeah I am mining with my Jan 21-31 2018 order

while I wait for my Dec 21-31 2017 order to ship.

A true WTF?

Mine was originally Jan 21-31 order, but they bumped it up to December. My guess is I am in the back of the line as far as priority if they truly follow the first order/first ship mantra

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14th/s have issues I have a lot of them.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 21, 2017, 01:39:29 PM

Quote from: CrypotoCreanis on December 21, 2017, 10:29:44 AM

Well today is the 1st day of the official Dec 21-30 batch ship dates. Waiting for that email notification.......

Yeah I am mining with my Jan 21-31 2018 order

while I wait for my Dec 21-31 2017 order to ship.

A true WTF?

I read on another site that some of the 14.0s had riser burnouts from high heat and had to be redone. Not sure if that's true but I heard it independently from 2 different resellers. I've been trying to add one more s9 for like a month now. I actually got in to the bitmain site once but I didn't have the bc on hand and it took me more than an hour to swap around, and I timed out on payment. 2795 price, Feb shipments. Very frustrating. A month ago I was passing by them at 3-3.5k for way too expensive. Dumbme.

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Quote from: CrypotoCreanis on December 21, 2017, 10:29:44 AM

Well today is the 1st day of the official Dec 21-30 batch ship dates. Waiting for that email notification.......

Yeah I am mining with my Jan 21-31 2018 order

while I wait for my Dec 21-31 2017 order to ship.

A true WTF?

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Quote from: dlezama on December 21, 2017, 12:42:31 PM

Quote from: Sandal_Hat on December 21, 2017, 11:51:56 AM

Quote from: Sandal_Hat on December 21, 2017, 10:40:38 AM

Omg, I just got a new problem. Will a restart solve this?
1 of the hashboards is not working on another miner.

Holy CRAP, changing the ethernet cable actually solved it...It is good now. I am not kidding.

No, it didn't, that doesn't make any sense. What you are facing is an intermittent failure. S9 boards failure rate is quite high. Maybe you are lucky and this board fails just once in a while, or it may go bad every other day, or at some point it may die for good. Good luck.

I know how silly it sounds but this worked for me on 2 hashboards on 2 different miners and worked for this fellow here too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2274299.20

I resetted it multiple times in the past and that didnt work. I upgraded firmware for one of them too and still 1 hashboard missing. I ssh and poweroff, waited and poweron again, changed cable and it worked....

Try it buddy. It may work.

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Hi I am having a similar issue my Nov batch s9 worked fine for two days then dropped too 9TH/s by the time I got too it was at 0TH/s...

Hardware version is blank and so is the status tab.

I have a kernel log that may help will go on my phone and upload pics to this post.

https://imgur.com/gallery/jaxJR

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Just been looking at my kernel and comparing it to a working one -

Issues

1. ERROR of set pic flash addr:
2. Chain [5] and [6] has no middle temp, use special fix mode
3.bmminer not found
4. Chain [J8] has 0 ASIC

Anyone know anything about these?
Any help will be very much appreciated

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Sorry to be a pain and keep posting but I fixed my issue by resetting my router and using a different Ethernet cable

Hope this helps someone

I had the same exact error on my 1st miner and changing ethernet cable worked for me too. I did not restart router.
I restarted my 1st miner countless times in the past. For 2nd miner, I have only restarted once. So, maybe i got lucky on my 2nd miner but I believe it worked for my first. Woodgiins had the same error and same solution as me. Why not just try it man. Cheap possible solution.

Anyways, if something comes up later from this, will update. Hopefully all goes well.

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Quote from: Sandal_Hat on December 21, 2017, 11:51:56 AM

Quote from: Sandal_Hat on December 21, 2017, 10:40:38 AM

Omg, I just got a new problem. Will a restart solve this?
1 of the hashboards is not working on another miner.

Holy CRAP, changing the ethernet cable actually solved it...It is good now. I am not kidding.

No, it didn't, that doesn't make any sense. What you are facing is an intermittent failure. S9 boards failure rate is quite high. Maybe you are lucky and this board fails just once in a while, or it may go bad every other day, or at some point it may die for good. Good luck.

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Quote from: Sandal_Hat on December 21, 2017, 10:40:38 AM

Omg, I just got a new problem. Will a restart solve this?
1 of the hashboards is not working on another miner.

Holy CRAP, changing the ethernet cable actually solved it...It is good now. I am not kidding.

Sandal_Hat

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Omg, I just got a new problem. Will a restart solve this?
1 of the hashboards is not working on another miner.

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Well today is the 1st day of the official Dec 21-30 batch ship dates. Waiting for that email notification.......

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Guys, how long does bitmain usually reply to support tickets. My last reply was 24 hours ago and seems it shows last activity 12 hours ago. This means their customer service officer has seen it right? But no reply yet.

How long does it take usualy?

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