Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 75.

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Quote from: SkyLakeMine on December 29, 2017, 02:23:29 PM

Quote from: SkyLakeMine on December 29, 2017, 01:47:26 PM

One of my 14Th/s is hashing at 9Th/s this morning. Never had a problem with my 13.5.

One board stopped hashing a couple hours ago. Red light on board was off. System only showed 2 boards. I shutdown, reconnected the cables on the non-hashing board, rebooted and now all 3 hashing..... for now.

The problem with the 14.0s was bad risers, burning out. There was a recall and not very many were shipped, so most got fixed from the factory. The concern is there might be some floating around resellers. There hasn't been a rash of complaints here so it seems like it's not a huge deal.

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Quote from: B0bares on December 29, 2017, 06:19:21 PM

Quote from: karnc on December 28, 2017, 12:22:52 AM

S9 will be in the market for a long time. If you are Bitmain, why would you want to release any new product when existing product still hit a 3 month ROI...

Let alone the limitation of silicon chip being reached. Efficiency comes with size reduction... you cant expect wafer fab to have fast development as the past 20 yrs anymore. We are reaching the limit already.

bitmain is working on a new 7 nm ASIC. halong mining is offering 16 TH miner in march`2018.

Are you pulling up that info out of your ass, or you have source to link for that information?

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Quote from: B0bares on December 29, 2017, 06:19:21 PM

Quote from: karnc on December 28, 2017, 12:22:52 AM

S9 will be in the market for a long time. If you are Bitmain, why would you want to release any new product when existing product still hit a 3 month ROI...

Let alone the limitation of silicon chip being reached. Efficiency comes with size reduction... you cant expect wafer fab to have fast development as the past 20 yrs anymore. We are reaching the limit already.

bitmain is working on a new 7 nm ASIC. halong mining is offering 16 TH miner in march`2018.

Say's who?

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I received my Jan21 Batch yesterday. 2 out of 3. I ordered 1 on nov 28 thru DHL. The next day 1 DHL, 1 UPS.

Both DHL arrived together yesterday. UPS still has not shipped. Duty tax was $47 per unit.

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Quote from: karnc on December 28, 2017, 12:22:52 AM

S9 will be in the market for a long time. If you are Bitmain, why would you want to release any new product when existing product still hit a 3 month ROI...

Let alone the limitation of silicon chip being reached. Efficiency comes with size reduction... you cant expect wafer fab to have fast development as the past 20 yrs anymore. We are reaching the limit already.

bitmain is working on a new 7 nm ASIC. halong mining is offering 16 TH miner in march`2018.

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Quote from: SkyLakeMine on December 29, 2017, 01:47:26 PM

One of my 14Th/s is hashing at 9Th/s this morning. Never had a problem with my 13.5.

One board stopped hashing a couple hours ago. Red light on board was off. System only showed 2 boards. I shutdown, reconnected the cables on the non-hashing board, rebooted and now all 3 hashing..... for now.

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Quote from: ordimans on December 27, 2017, 01:02:50 PM

Quote from: castiel0504 on December 26, 2017, 02:14:24 PM

I was thinking something like that as well. *puts tinfoil hat* How come that there is no 14TH/S version in last few months? I think last 14TH/s version was like in summer IIRC, since then rest of is only 13.5TH/s. And when they get rid off every S9 for 3k Grin

they will announce new miner Cheesy

*removes tinfoil hat*

I read 14Th/s batch have bad quality than 13.5th/s.
More complaint from customer...

It's true ?

Crap! It might be true. One of my 14Th/s is hashing at 9Th/s this morning. Never had a problem with my 13.5.

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Quote from: dlezama on December 28, 2017, 12:41:35 AM

Quote from: karnc on December 28, 2017, 12:22:52 AM

S9 will be in the market for a long time. If you are Bitmain, why would you want to release any new product when existing product still hit a 3 month ROI...

One reason may be to stay ahead, you don't want to find yourself 6 months from now in a position when a competitor is selling equipment you can't compete with. Also, there are players like Bitfury that may be eating part of Bitmains lunch in the industrial space.

What's news from Bitfury ?
I think Bitmain have a many money now to R&D, just check their new project Sophon.

Quote from: Sidifotoskwa on December 28, 2017, 02:03:37 PM

Ultimately, to extend the life of the miner. I use Blissz firmware on an antminer D3. I can decrease the power consumption while keeping the hashing relatively high. He also solved the fan noise issue.

But nothing for S9....

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Quote from: Sidifotoskwa on December 28, 2017, 02:03:37 PM

Quote from: ordimans on December 27, 2017, 01:02:50 PM

Quote from: castiel0504 on December 26, 2017, 02:14:24 PM

I was thinking something like that as well. *puts tinfoil hat* How come that there is no 14TH/S version in last few months? I think last 14TH/s version was like in summer IIRC, since then rest of is only 13.5TH/s. And when they get rid off every S9 for 3k Grin

they will announce new miner Cheesy

*removes tinfoil hat*

I read 14Th/s batch have bad quality than 13.5th/s.
More complaint from customer...

It's true ?

Quote from: VRobb on December 27, 2017, 09:02:01 AM

Don't search much? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-for-cracking-bitmain-s9-bmminer-1569129

Old topic... And no futures...

Quote from: Sidifotoskwa on December 27, 2017, 08:25:17 AM

Stock firmware from Bitmain on the Antminer S9 isn't that great. If someone re-writes the OS to increase efficiency, I will pay a dev fee.

I tried to reverse the system, with SSD, we can have access to everything.
But there are two solutions for now, use bmminer, and try to disable auto tune, and use any frequency (it's a risk).
Or maybe use ccminer, but it need to compile and work with Asic chip... And maybe it will be more efficiency...

The main question, is what is the goal ? More frequency ? Best cooling ?

Ultimately, to extend the life of the miner. I use Blissz firmware on an antminer D3. I can decrease the power consumption while keeping the hashing relatively high. He also solved the fan noise issue.

If you install a custom firmware on the Antminer S9, won't that void the warranty from Bitmain? Is there a way to flash the firmware to factory if there is a problem? Thanks in advance.

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Quote from: ordimans on December 27, 2017, 01:02:50 PM

Quote from: castiel0504 on December 26, 2017, 02:14:24 PM

I was thinking something like that as well. *puts tinfoil hat* How come that there is no 14TH/S version in last few months? I think last 14TH/s version was like in summer IIRC, since then rest of is only 13.5TH/s. And when they get rid off every S9 for 3k Grin

they will announce new miner Cheesy

*removes tinfoil hat*

I read 14Th/s batch have bad quality than 13.5th/s.
More complaint from customer...

It's true ?

Quote from: VRobb on December 27, 2017, 09:02:01 AM

Don't search much? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-for-cracking-bitmain-s9-bmminer-1569129

Old topic... And no futures...

Quote from: Sidifotoskwa on December 27, 2017, 08:25:17 AM

Stock firmware from Bitmain on the Antminer S9 isn't that great. If someone re-writes the OS to increase efficiency, I will pay a dev fee.

I tried to reverse the system, with SSD, we can have access to everything.
But there are two solutions for now, use bmminer, and try to disable auto tune, and use any frequency (it's a risk).
Or maybe use ccminer, but it need to compile and work with Asic chip... And maybe it will be more efficiency...

The main question, is what is the goal ? More frequency ? Best cooling ?

Ultimately, to extend the life of the miner. I use Blissz firmware on an antminer D3. I can decrease the power consumption while keeping the hashing relatively high. He also solved the fan noise issue.

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Quote from: karnc on December 28, 2017, 12:22:52 AM

S9 will be in the market for a long time. If you are Bitmain, why would you want to release any new product when existing product still hit a 3 month ROI...

One reason may be to stay ahead, you don't want to find yourself 6 months from now in a position when a competitor is selling equipment you can't compete with. Also, there are players like Bitfury that may be eating part of Bitmains lunch in the industrial space.

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S9 will be in the market for a long time. If you are Bitmain, why would you want to release any new product when existing product still hit a 3 month ROI...

Let alone the limitation of silicon chip being reached. Efficiency comes with size reduction... you cant expect wafer fab to have fast development as the past 20 yrs anymore. We are reaching the limit already.

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Quote from: castiel0504 on December 26, 2017, 02:14:24 PM

I was thinking something like that as well. *puts tinfoil hat* How come that there is no 14TH/S version in last few months? I think last 14TH/s version was like in summer IIRC, since then rest of is only 13.5TH/s. And when they get rid off every S9 for 3k Grin

they will announce new miner Cheesy

*removes tinfoil hat*

I read 14Th/s batch have bad quality than 13.5th/s.
More complaint from customer...

It's true ?

Quote from: VRobb on December 27, 2017, 09:02:01 AM

Don't search much? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-for-cracking-bitmain-s9-bmminer-1569129

Old topic... And no futures...

Quote from: Sidifotoskwa on December 27, 2017, 08:25:17 AM

Stock firmware from Bitmain on the Antminer S9 isn't that great. If someone re-writes the OS to increase efficiency, I will pay a dev fee.

I tried to reverse the system, with SSD, we can have access to everything.
But there are two solutions for now, use bmminer, and try to disable auto tune, and use any frequency (it's a risk).
Or maybe use ccminer, but it need to compile and work with Asic chip... And maybe it will be more efficiency...

The main question, is what is the goal ? More frequency ? Best cooling ?

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Quote from: fr4nkthetank on December 27, 2017, 09:57:57 AM

I dont feel they are selling used miners though....they are profitable so might as well keep running them. A lot of people around here are building pretty massive mining farms (all S9's). I cannot stress how stupid that is. S9's are at the end of their lifecycle and the next generation will probably see the same increase in efficiency as the S7vsS9 (of course a little less). Profitability is high now, but in 4 months ? I feel its a gamble,I rather have GPUS, my 2 cents.

Considering s7s are still profitable now, I dont see why you would call the s9 end of life. The other 2 miner manufactures have taken 2 years to even match the s9 efficiency. Even if bitmain comes out with something new the s9 will be profitable for a long time to come. S9 profitability has never been higher than it has in the last 60 days, thats not usually how an EoL product performs.

GPU systems are less stable, cost more to build, and ROI slower than the s9 right now.

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got my jan order. weird shipping schedule.

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I dont feel they are selling used miners though....they are profitable so might as well keep running them. A lot of people around here are building pretty massive mining farms (all S9's). I cannot stress how stupid that is. S9's are at the end of their lifecycle and the next generation will probably see the same increase in efficiency as the S7vsS9 (of course a little less). Profitability is high now, but in 4 months ? I feel its a gamble,I rather have GPUS, my 2 cents.

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Quote from: caxibrema on December 27, 2017, 09:22:51 AM

My S9 (Feb batch) shipped today!!

wtf! Really? I just want my Dec batch email!

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My S9 (Feb batch) shipped today!!

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