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Topic: BitMarket.Eu has closed down - page 28. (Read 204282 times)

sr. member
Activity: 271
Merit: 250
February 01, 2013, 06:16:00 AM
This questionnaire has the purpose to check the situation before an investment can officially take place. There has NO investment taken place yet and still everyone is invited to participate.

So far we only have a plan which is to reopen the site under new ownership, share 50%/50% profits between all new investors according to their share to recover somehow the investment sum and the other half goes to the "frozen coins". We are still open for new ideas and of course additional investors (which is also purpose of the questionnaire). So far the plan is to extend to bitcoin trading by some additional P2P trading concepts and to get sponsor links plus sell advertisement space.

So far the site is still with Maciej and all functions are working as before. Newly added funds are separated from the old frozen funds. We would like to answer all questions on how much the investment sum is and so on as quickly as possible, but we do not know ourselves yet. But the outcome of this questionnaire actually determines which possibilities we have. If you have any questions on what we have planned (not in detail, but in principle) you can contact me directly and I would try my best to explain the concept(s). So far i have PLANNED to invest (I did not yet) 10.000 euros plus my share of 618,xx frozen bitcoins into the new site. But the final sum is unknown. Since me and Maciej hardly know each other and also never have met in person, therefore we are going to have a face to face meeting AFTER the questionnaire with the main investors to discuss how to realize the current plan that we have described in principle in the questionnaire. We would inform immediately about any new developments.

How the new site would be managed, who is the owner or all those "legal" questions, also depend on the outcome of the questionnaire and the amount of investments. So far the IDEA is, that, if it is true that i would hold the biggest share with 618 BTC plus 10.000 euros, i would take over "legal" responsibility of the new site. If some (yet unknown person) decides to invest for example 200.000 euros then the situation might change easily *g

If too many people with frozen coins refuse their cooperation it is simply impossible to reopen the site, since the website is of course part of the liquidation mass and we would need to go the official path which is of course unfortunate for everyone... The investors cannot invest, as it is "illegal" to separate assests from the liquidation mass,  Maciej would need to go through the liquidation procedure with all consequences and everyone with frozen coins would be paid out what is left after liquidation. (which would be around 6 or 8% after 1 year, Liquidation process of course also costs quite some fees and time). At least for me i would consider this as a lose-lose situation where only the lawyers win.

In case the non-cooperative part is quite small we would go on with the investment plan and handle the individuals that do not cooperate on an individual basis which means in fact negotiating individually either a partial payback or a full payback in FIAT currency based on the old bitcoin price of 21.12.2012 when the coins were frozen or even take the risk of a court case or whatever. This really depends on the outcome on how many refuse cooperation and which sums are on stake and it really would depend on the outcome of individual negotiations.

So please take your time and assist us by answering this questionnaire within two weeks, if you have any questions please feel free to contact me directly


hero member
Activity: 607
Merit: 500
February 01, 2013, 04:40:57 AM
Shades: From what I see on your account, you already cleared this transaction, and the other 0.68017543 BTC is now available as your balance. So I guess the situation is resolved?

Crazy573: All these questions will be answered very soon. For this moment I can say that until the whole process is complete, I am in charge of Bitmarket operations and funds. This will change after new version of Bitmarket opens, which should happen soon. Martin "mralbi" Albert will be in charge of this new service then.
full member
Activity: 179
Merit: 100
February 01, 2013, 04:38:35 AM
How should we be able to make a choice if we don't get any information about who is in charge now, who keeps the bitcoins, what the new options will be, what amount will be invested, etc, etc.

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What if a few people choose the "I don't want to cooperate" option? You just pay them the promised 6% from invested money and continue, or do you really shut it down?
sr. member
Activity: 271
Merit: 250
February 01, 2013, 04:32:13 AM
OK, just right now all people with frozen coins should have received an official information email plus the possibility to fill out a questionnaire. Please log in and answer as soon as possible. It would also be great if we could finde some additional investors, we have enough ideas but we are still far away to reimburse the 19000 lost bitcoins with current prices ;-)
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
January 30, 2013, 04:03:15 PM
On the 29.01 I've tried a small sale of 2BTC and am sorry to say that there are problems:

1. I've never received a confirmation email but the other side did. Now the money is in my account, but I cannot send the BTC as there is no confirmation mail to use the link.

2. I have 2BTC locked in my account (not counting the others "on hold") but the pending transaction is of 1.3989BTC (the sum for which I've already received).

Why I have more money locked from my account? How can I send the BTC in that case?
sr. member
Activity: 271
Merit: 250
January 29, 2013, 02:57:42 AM
i think the admin will provide some information about the situation quite soon with several options to chose from
hero member
Activity: 859
Merit: 1000
January 28, 2013, 04:42:44 PM
Hi
When may I expect releasing my pending BTC then?
Cheers!
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
January 24, 2013, 04:06:31 PM
So, who will pay back 100% first?  Bitfloor or BitMarket?
hero member
Activity: 607
Merit: 500
January 24, 2013, 03:54:56 PM
Sold 100 more bitcoins, all ok.

Well, how would you know the people who bought your coins were able to withdraw them in full? Of course, money landed in your bank account. But...

People are depositing and withdrawing everyday. The newly deposited money will never be touched by us, so even if everyone who deposited after the announcement issued a withdrawal, it would clear just fine.
sr. member
Activity: 271
Merit: 250
January 23, 2013, 06:24:12 PM
ok, just a short update from my side... the negotiations are continuing and are proceeding well,

but please stay realistic, an investment of 300.000 USD is simply utopic, even if 5 new investors would join. And: the bitcoin price is going up and up and the debts are increasing daily ;-)

It would look more like this: There is a small payout to start with and the major share would have to come mainly from future turnover/profits over years, but in any case i can promise it would be more together with than the default scenario where a payout of few cents per frozen coin could be expected.

But more information will follow hopefully in early February latest
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1001
January 23, 2013, 11:30:46 AM
Sold 100 more bitcoins, all ok.

Well, how would you know the people who bought your coins were able to withdraw them in full? Of course, money landed in your bank account. But...
donator
Activity: 446
Merit: 262
Interesting.
January 23, 2013, 11:20:59 AM
Sold 100 more bitcoins, all ok.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
January 23, 2013, 07:08:24 AM
Do we have an update on what the status is of us getting any of our bitcoins reimbursed? Have the investors invested yet?

Thanks

be patient, only 164,700 days to go
full member
Activity: 214
Merit: 100
January 23, 2013, 04:57:09 AM
Do we have an update on what the status is of us getting any of our bitcoins reimbursed? Have the investors invested yet?

Thanks
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1004
Firstbits: 1pirata
January 17, 2013, 06:20:00 PM
perfect support!

i got my transfered bitcoins.
everything is ok.

go on bitmarket.eu


lets play the music
 Grin

member
Activity: 86
Merit: 10
January 17, 2013, 06:02:54 PM
I purchased this week and withdrawed successfully, too Smiley
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
January 17, 2013, 12:46:23 PM
Yes, I also confirm, the withdrawal of "new" Bitcoins was processed.

Maciej, please do not get nervous, otherwise you would continue to produce bugs.
Better slower, but well thought through.
member
Activity: 91
Merit: 10
January 17, 2013, 07:03:37 AM
20 h later mine get there too...

Separated from my recent transfer balance i see a  0.24 BTC "on hold" that i previus had there ? What does that mean to be "ön hold" ?
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
January 17, 2013, 04:06:31 AM
perfect support!

i got my transfered bitcoins.
everything is ok.

go on bitmarket.eu


lets play the music
 Grin
sr. member
Activity: 271
Merit: 250
January 17, 2013, 03:10:13 AM
ok a big stone is falling off my heart ;-)

I was maybe a bit overnervous, but a combination of frozen funds plus no replies makes me really nervous after what happened ;-)
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