Topic: Bitminter bitcoin mining pool - shutdown mining 2020-07-01 website 2021-06-01 - page 82. (Read 324945 times)
October 15, 2014, 03:38:47 PM
Out of curiosity, why under Shifts, does the Pay/Hour at 1 TH/s show "?" for the last 10 shifts? Does it eventually populate when a block is found?
October 15, 2014, 03:16:13 PM
I'm not sure how familiar you are with the pencil mod but you can mod these in either direction, undervolt or overvolt. The idea of undervolting (what i've done) is to lower you hashing power and your power consumption at the same time. The way the S1's work as you lower both the power consumption lowers faster than your hashing power so you can increase your hash per watt. So far everything is working fine. What you loose is overall hashing power, you gain in efficiency. I think I might actually be throwing less errors (as a percentage of hash) than I did before the mod. Either way I've always had a really low amount of errors.
The nice thing abotu the pencil mod is that its really easy to un-do so when (not if) the price of BTCs goes back up sufficiently high enough I can un-do the pencil mod and overclock these back up for full raw hashing power.
Let me know if this answers your question or if you're interested in hearing more.
Didn't realize the pencil mod worked to under volt them to improve Ghash/Watt. That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
Just simple numbers? Mine went from 400w/200gh to 180w/140gh Actually quite a bit more efficient. HW errors on all units under 1% (well under for most) You may have to "re-do" it a little after a couple of days once the lead cures, but mine have been stable for about a month now
October 15, 2014, 02:29:12 PM
Mine is all rental set to top out at 300thash.
Even with this rental I'm still ahead on the last 3 blocks. 1 BTC got me 2.4 btc return so I dumped another 1 BTC to see what happens.
It really is the lotto though. worst case I'm ahead .4 btc :-)
My rigs are all still rented so this is a good test to see what I can earn without them...
I"m not sure about netdomain if his are rental or a farm. If he owns a farm then we will hopefully be seeing him long term.
Lets hope for blocks. These shifts are getting real short ...
Fahcor
Even with this rental I'm still ahead on the last 3 blocks. 1 BTC got me 2.4 btc return so I dumped another 1 BTC to see what happens.
It really is the lotto though. worst case I'm ahead .4 btc :-)
My rigs are all still rented so this is a good test to see what I can earn without them...
I"m not sure about netdomain if his are rental or a farm. If he owns a farm then we will hopefully be seeing him long term.
Lets hope for blocks. These shifts are getting real short ...
Fahcor
October 15, 2014, 02:08:07 PM
awesome hash rate!! keep it going!
October 15, 2014, 12:18:23 PM
Wow, Netdomain at almost 500 th/s.... pfff.
And there is Falhcor, having fun man(pff 210th/s).
Men i feel tiny with only 190gh/s....
And there is Falhcor, having fun man
(pff 210th/s).Men i feel tiny with only 190gh/s....
NetDomain went up to
October 15, 2014, 12:02:18 PM
Wow, Netdomain at almost 500 th/s.... pfff.
And there is Falhcor, having fun man(pff 210th/s).
Men i feel tiny with only 190gh/s....
And there is Falhcor, having fun man
(pff 210th/s).Men i feel tiny with only 190gh/s....
October 15, 2014, 10:56:10 AM
I will send you some info in PM.
Fahlcor
Fahlcor
Cool, thanks. I'll check it in a bit.
I'm not sure how familiar you are with the pencil mod but you can mod these in either direction, undervolt or overvolt. The idea of undervolting (what i've done) is to lower you hashing power and your power consumption at the same time. The way the S1's work as you lower both the power consumption lowers faster than your hashing power so you can increase your hash per watt. So far everything is working fine. What you loose is overall hashing power, you gain in efficiency. I think I might actually be throwing less errors (as a percentage of hash) than I did before the mod. Either way I've always had a really low amount of errors.
The nice thing abotu the pencil mod is that its really easy to un-do so when (not if) the price of BTCs goes back up sufficiently high enough I can un-do the pencil mod and overclock these back up for full raw hashing power.
Let me know if this answers your question or if you're interested in hearing more.
Didn't realize the pencil mod worked to under volt them to improve Ghash/Watt. That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
Yeah, here's a how-to video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqhB96fSh64
October 15, 2014, 10:42:49 AM
I'm not sure how familiar you are with the pencil mod but you can mod these in either direction, undervolt or overvolt. The idea of undervolting (what i've done) is to lower you hashing power and your power consumption at the same time. The way the S1's work as you lower both the power consumption lowers faster than your hashing power so you can increase your hash per watt. So far everything is working fine. What you loose is overall hashing power, you gain in efficiency. I think I might actually be throwing less errors (as a percentage of hash) than I did before the mod. Either way I've always had a really low amount of errors.
The nice thing abotu the pencil mod is that its really easy to un-do so when (not if) the price of BTCs goes back up sufficiently high enough I can un-do the pencil mod and overclock these back up for full raw hashing power.
Let me know if this answers your question or if you're interested in hearing more.
Didn't realize the pencil mod worked to under volt them to improve Ghash/Watt. That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
October 15, 2014, 09:16:33 AM
I will send you some info in PM.
Fahlcor
Fahlcor
October 15, 2014, 08:29:29 AM
Hey Fahlcor, that is some serious power you're bringing. What kind of equipment are you running and how are you liking it? I'm still running S3's and some pencil-moded s1's so I may be looking to upgrade so some new stuff in the near future.
Curious to know what kind of performance are you getting with the pencil-moded S1's and are they throwing off a lot of hardware errors?
I'm not sure how familiar you are with the pencil mod but you can mod these in either direction, undervolt or overvolt. The idea of undervolting (what i've done) is to lower you hashing power and your power consumption at the same time. The way the S1's work as you lower both the power consumption lowers faster than your hashing power so you can increase your hash per watt. So far everything is working fine. What you loose is overall hashing power, you gain in efficiency. I think I might actually be throwing less errors (as a percentage of hash) than I did before the mod. Either way I've always had a really low amount of errors.
The nice thing abotu the pencil mod is that its really easy to un-do so when (not if) the price of BTCs goes back up sufficiently high enough I can un-do the pencil mod and overclock these back up for full raw hashing power.
Let me know if this answers your question or if you're interested in hearing more.
WOOOOOT!! block
If I can catch another one in the next 12 hours I will be up .5 btc on my rental. .75 earned back so far on the 1 btc I spent.
Everyone think Block!!!!
If I hit another I would gladly put another BTC into the hopper for rentals and hopefully help hit a block faster.
Fahlcor
If I can catch another one in the next 12 hours I will be up .5 btc on my rental. .75 earned back so far on the 1 btc I spent.
Everyone think Block!!!!
If I hit another I would gladly put another BTC into the hopper for rentals and hopefully help hit a block faster.
Fahlcor
Woohooo I'm up .55 BTC from my rental and still a good chunk of time until it fully wears off. My miners just came off of 5 days back to back being on rentals also. Was a strong week for me.
If anyone else is renting and wants to time it together let me know. Otherwise once these last 2 confirm I will be tossing at least 1 BTC back into more rentals to see what happens.
Fahlcor
October 15, 2014, 07:16:45 AM
WOOOOOT!! block
If I can catch another one in the next 12 hours I will be up .5 btc on my rental. .75 earned back so far on the 1 btc I spent.
Everyone think Block!!!!
If I hit another I would gladly put another BTC into the hopper for rentals and hopefully help hit a block faster.
Fahlcor
If I can catch another one in the next 12 hours I will be up .5 btc on my rental. .75 earned back so far on the 1 btc I spent.
Everyone think Block!!!!
If I hit another I would gladly put another BTC into the hopper for rentals and hopefully help hit a block faster.
Fahlcor
Woohooo I'm up .55 BTC from my rental and still a good chunk of time until it fully wears off. My miners just came off of 5 days back to back being on rentals also. Was a strong week for me.
If anyone else is renting and wants to time it together let me know. Otherwise once these last 2 confirm I will be tossing at least 1 BTC back into more rentals to see what happens.
Fahlcor
October 14, 2014, 07:26:59 PM
WOOOOOT!! block
If I can catch another one in the next 12 hours I will be up .5 btc on my rental. .75 earned back so far on the 1 btc I spent.
Everyone think Block!!!!
If I hit another I would gladly put another BTC into the hopper for rentals and hopefully help hit a block faster.
Fahlcor
If I can catch another one in the next 12 hours I will be up .5 btc on my rental. .75 earned back so far on the 1 btc I spent.
Everyone think Block!!!!
If I hit another I would gladly put another BTC into the hopper for rentals and hopefully help hit a block faster.
Fahlcor
October 14, 2014, 07:02:20 PM
It would be neat if the shifts page had an xls or csv export button.
October 14, 2014, 06:54:49 PM
The current worker stats on the site look a bit off for me ... I have checked a few times today, and my hash rate shows too low, but when I look at the latest completed shifts, all looks in order.
For example:
SP30 - reads 7270 (I wish!)
S3 no.1 - reads 219 (oops)
S3 no. 2- reads 109 (again too low)
I get these weird readings, and then 5 mins later:
SP30 - reads 4017
S3 no.1 - reads 539
S3 no.2 - reads 439
Up and down like a YO YO, I expect to see variances, but these swings I haven't seen on BitMinter before.
Just me? Doc ... any ideas?
Devon
For example:
SP30 - reads 7270 (I wish!)
S3 no.1 - reads 219 (oops)
S3 no. 2- reads 109 (again too low)
I get these weird readings, and then 5 mins later:
SP30 - reads 4017
S3 no.1 - reads 539
S3 no.2 - reads 439
Up and down like a YO YO, I expect to see variances, but these swings I haven't seen on BitMinter before.
Just me? Doc ... any ideas?
Devon
Try ping us2.bitminter.com and if it lower than mint.bitminter.com then use US2 instead.
just an idea.
October 14, 2014, 05:13:08 PM
The current worker stats on the site look a bit off for me ... I have checked a few times today, and my hash rate shows too low, but when I look at the latest completed shifts, all looks in order.
For example:
SP30 - reads 7270 (I wish!)
S3 no.1 - reads 219 (oops)
S3 no. 2- reads 109 (again too low)
I get these weird readings, and then 5 mins later:
SP30 - reads 4017
S3 no.1 - reads 539
S3 no.2 - reads 439
Up and down like a YO YO, I expect to see variances, but these swings I haven't seen on BitMinter before.
Just me? Doc ... any ideas?
Devon
For example:
SP30 - reads 7270 (I wish!)
S3 no.1 - reads 219 (oops)
S3 no. 2- reads 109 (again too low)
I get these weird readings, and then 5 mins later:
SP30 - reads 4017
S3 no.1 - reads 539
S3 no.2 - reads 439
Up and down like a YO YO, I expect to see variances, but these swings I haven't seen on BitMinter before.
Just me? Doc ... any ideas?
Devon
October 14, 2014, 04:59:56 PM
That where a very short 7 hours than Falhcor, that for 1btc... pff.
What happend that it stopped so early?
What happend that it stopped so early?
I'm currently outbid on Westhash. I could raise the price but I thought i would wait it out.
Fahlcor
October 14, 2014, 02:01:37 PM
For me, it was a near real-time snapshot of the health of my mining hash rate vs. the pool hash rate.
It may take some getting used to, but can you try looking at the shifts page for this?
It shows your average hash rate in the latest shifts, and this is what the "pay per block" estimate was based on. Sure, it's 10 numbers instead of 1. But it also tells you roughly when there was a problem if you had some downtime. This is your mining health in the pool. The shifts page also shows the pool hashrate, although I think that is less useful as it doesn't affect your average earnings, only the variance.
Just an FYI, as I live in a rural area, my "home" Internet service is actually Verizon LTE (a USB modem connected to a Cradlepoint router), so from time to time, it will "drop" -- but it is surprisingly good 95% of the time. For those of you who are wondering, my only other alternative is satellite - a non-starter due to the latency issues. I have multiple ASICs for BitCoin and LiteCoin as well as bevy of iPads, iPhones, desktops, and laptops as well as other home automation, IP cameras, and other devices all connected -- and I manage on a 40G plan (yes, I sometimes exceed that).
So, even though I'm 24x7 mining on BitMinter, 99% of the time my downtime is connectivity related.
October 14, 2014, 01:49:16 PM
For me, it was a near real-time snapshot of the health of my mining hash rate vs. the pool hash rate.
It may take some getting used to, but can you try looking at the shifts page for this?
It shows your average hash rate in the latest shifts, and this is what the "pay per block" estimate was based on. Sure, it's 10 numbers instead of 1. But it also tells you roughly when there was a problem if you had some downtime. This is your mining health in the pool. The shifts page also shows the pool hashrate, although I think that is less useful as it doesn't affect your average earnings, only the variance.
October 14, 2014, 01:41:14 PM
Hey Fahlcor, that is some serious power you're bringing. What kind of equipment are you running and how are you liking it? I'm still running S3's and some pencil-moded s1's so I may be looking to upgrade so some new stuff in the near future.
Curious to know what kind of performance are you getting with the pencil-moded S1's and are they throwing off a lot of hardware errors?
October 14, 2014, 01:39:54 PM
Could someone explain what the heck I'm looking at here? Why the "?"s, and why the zero payments for a lot of shifts?
Completed Duration Difficulty Pay/Hour at 1 TH/s Total Thps Your Ghps Your work
2014-10-14 12:23 3h 14m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,292.4 1,887.9 5,128,256
2014-10-14 09:09 3h 11m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,313.7 1,934.0 5,162,304
2014-10-14 05:57 3h 09m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,322.9 1,908.9 5,058,240
2014-10-14 02:47 3h 14m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,285.7 1,810.6 4,931,904
2014-10-13 23:32 3h 17m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,270.1 917.9 2,534,532
2014-10-13 20:14 3h 13m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,294.7 422.4 1,142,400
2014-10-13 17:00 3h 14m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,293.7 1,768.8 4,799,488
2014-10-13 13:45 3h 16m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,281.6 1,924.8 5,274,176
2014-10-13 10:28 3h 14m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,291.7 1,956.5 5,305,088
2014-10-13 07:14 3h 12m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,305.0 2,123.9 5,698,752
2014-10-13 04:01 3h 10m 35,002,482,026 0.00000000 1,320.9 2,050.5 5,448,896
2014-10-13 00:50 3h 10m 35,002,482,026 0.00000000 1,318.5 2,110.8 5,606,464
2014-10-12 21:40 3h 10m 35,002,482,026 0.00000000 1,318.1 1,622.0 4,307,568
2014-10-12 18:29 3h 08m 35,002,482,026 0.00000000 1,332.6 2,088.6 5,488,704
2014-10-12 15:20 3h 11m 35,002,482,026 0.00000000 1,310.5 2,104.7 5,625,740
2014-10-12 12:09 3h 13m 35,002,482,026 0.00000000 1,300.1 2,130.1 5,752,512
2014-10-12 08:55 3h 12m 35,002,482,026 0.00059286 1,299.0 2,124.2 5,726,848
2014-10-12 05:42 3h 15m 35,002,482,026 0.00059286 1,283.1 2,056.8 5,628,480
2014-10-12 02:26 3h 15m 35,002,482,026 0.00118696 1,287.3 2,039.1 5,557,632
2014-10-11 23:10 3h 12m 35,002,482,026 0.00118696 1,302.7 1,331.0 3,577,508
Thanks
Completed Duration Difficulty Pay/Hour at 1 TH/s Total Thps Your Ghps Your work
2014-10-14 12:23 3h 14m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,292.4 1,887.9 5,128,256
2014-10-14 09:09 3h 11m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,313.7 1,934.0 5,162,304
2014-10-14 05:57 3h 09m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,322.9 1,908.9 5,058,240
2014-10-14 02:47 3h 14m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,285.7 1,810.6 4,931,904
2014-10-13 23:32 3h 17m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,270.1 917.9 2,534,532
2014-10-13 20:14 3h 13m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,294.7 422.4 1,142,400
2014-10-13 17:00 3h 14m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,293.7 1,768.8 4,799,488
2014-10-13 13:45 3h 16m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,281.6 1,924.8 5,274,176
2014-10-13 10:28 3h 14m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,291.7 1,956.5 5,305,088
2014-10-13 07:14 3h 12m 35,002,482,026 ? 1,305.0 2,123.9 5,698,752
2014-10-13 04:01 3h 10m 35,002,482,026 0.00000000 1,320.9 2,050.5 5,448,896
2014-10-13 00:50 3h 10m 35,002,482,026 0.00000000 1,318.5 2,110.8 5,606,464
2014-10-12 21:40 3h 10m 35,002,482,026 0.00000000 1,318.1 1,622.0 4,307,568
2014-10-12 18:29 3h 08m 35,002,482,026 0.00000000 1,332.6 2,088.6 5,488,704
2014-10-12 15:20 3h 11m 35,002,482,026 0.00000000 1,310.5 2,104.7 5,625,740
2014-10-12 12:09 3h 13m 35,002,482,026 0.00000000 1,300.1 2,130.1 5,752,512
2014-10-12 08:55 3h 12m 35,002,482,026 0.00059286 1,299.0 2,124.2 5,726,848
2014-10-12 05:42 3h 15m 35,002,482,026 0.00059286 1,283.1 2,056.8 5,628,480
2014-10-12 02:26 3h 15m 35,002,482,026 0.00118696 1,287.3 2,039.1 5,557,632
2014-10-11 23:10 3h 12m 35,002,482,026 0.00118696 1,302.7 1,331.0 3,577,508
Thanks
Take the number of hours since the last block was found.
The add up the number of hours that the last 10 shifts consist of ~3:10 each.
subtract the time for the shifts from the time since the last block found and that will be the number of hours/shifts that you would get 0.000. This could also be considered hashing with no pay for those shifts. But there is no way to avoid this other than finding more blocks. Last week we hit 9 blocks with lots of luck. This week looks a little more average so far.
by my quick calcs. at the time right now. 2 days 7 hours =55 hours.
Last 10 shifts =~31 hours.
This equals about 24 hours of hashing (8 shifts) without pay because no block was found. These 0.000 shifts will continue until a block is found.
This is going to happen especially on the RED blocks.
I personally have hashed on other sites and Minter still pays better (especially with good luck). The law of averages should balance out if everyone is consistent on hashing. Yes you may do some shifts without pay but when the good times roll again you will be above most other sites.
Fahlcor
Thanks for this... but that's a lot of "quick calcs" to be able to do. Personally, I would like better statistics "at a glance."
As a 24x7 BitMinter-only miner, I had come to rely on the "Expected Pay Per Block" as this showed me, based on my miners, as well as their performance and connectivity (and what the rest of the pool is doing), what I would expect to receive for the NEXT block found -- all in one number. Yes, I can look at previous transactions, but as mining is progressing, it was beneficial for me to review that one number as something that I could use as a comparison. For example: Say, it showed that I would receive 0.0175 bitcoins for the next block the pool found (based on my score, etc). But, if logged on to find that the pool hash rate had increased considerably, that number would fall. That's fine. I still know what is "normal" for my miners. Additionally, if I experienced a network connectivity problem and my miners were offline for a few hours, I could see that impact as well.
For me, it was a near real-time snapshot of the health of my mining hash rate vs. the pool hash rate.
I'm all for the new statistics, although I continue to protest about removing what was (to me) a very useful and beneficial statistic. Now, I'm going to have to "do the math." I'm sorry that some people found it confusing... but many of us know nothing else, so it is now more confusing without it. At least to me.
Doc: Appreciate all you have done and are doing to improve things. BitMinter is and has been the one and only BitCoin mining pool I've been a part of since I began this adventure. I've looked at others, but never switched.
+1
Thanks for the explanation, everyone.
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