That is the difference between actually gambling and investing. When you gamble there is a chance that you can win and profit early on, you have that chance because this is gambling and you can very well just put 0.1 bitcoins in to a 999x odd thing and happen to win on your very first chance, that is literally the "odds" that we are talking about, don't get me wrong it is still quite improbable that you would win on your first try on a 999x game, yet its not impossible, it is improbable.
However when you are investing literally the moment you put your money in, some whale could make some profits and you can start your investment at -10% on your first minute. Yet when you look at mathematics, it is clear that gambling over time will lead to losing whereas investment will lead to winning, no matter what happens in the middle, the results will be the same in the end.
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April 19, 2020, 10:31:20 AM
April 18, 2020, 07:06:31 AM
Just checked. I started in September 2017 and almost all profits wiped out in the last few days.
I rolled over my investment from Crypto-games last month so my investment doubled.
Bad time to double my investment!
I rolled over my investment from Crypto-games last month so my investment doubled.
Bad time to double my investment!
Investor since 2017 as well, but since doge and ltc were the ones doing really well, I didn't top up my btc. I avoided a huge loss when I withdrew from MP just before they had their weird bout of variance but yeah, wiped out also by Easter weekend haha. Like I said though, ended up winning it all back and then gained 2 levels, but nice to see profits returning. That's what you get for max leverage =p Now let's see if that luck rubs off on me in real-life lottery =D
April 17, 2020, 02:11:32 PM
WTF happened to the bankroll? Months and months of investment profits wiped out.
Months for me but I read for others it is years,,, but you know how investments work right? Everything is risk and as TimeTwister says. Variance. In the long, long, long term, we should be in profit because of the house edge. But in the short term, someone can always win big, as the Easter weekend shows. Amazing though.
All the above, this is crypto world and even though we love bitvest you should always be careful, so if you see this type of movements and you are unsure about it (I am not, I know its variance) just take a look at it a bit more while, if the patterns keep going the same way and investors keep losing money, that means you could start to question stuff.
However, this was just too short of a trip and I wouldn't see it is out of the realm of possibility just yet, we will need to see a lot more of these for that.
April 17, 2020, 12:23:30 PM
WTF happened to the bankroll? Months and months of investment profits wiped out.
Months for me but I read for others it is years,,, but you know how investments work right? Everything is risk and as TimeTwister says. Variance. In the long, long, long term, we should be in profit because of the house edge. But in the short term, someone can always win big, as the Easter weekend shows. Amazing though.
Just checked. I started in September 2017 and almost all profits wiped out in the last few days.
I rolled over my investment from Crypto-games last month so my investment doubled.
Bad time to double my investment!
April 17, 2020, 11:46:02 AM
WTF happened to the bankroll? Months and months of investment profits wiped out.
Months for me but I read for others it is years,,, but you know how investments work right? Everything is risk and as TimeTwister says. Variance. In the long, long, long term, we should be in profit because of the house edge. But in the short term, someone can always win big, as the Easter weekend shows. Amazing though.
Just checked. I started in September 2017 and almost all profits wiped out in the last few days.
I rolled over my investment from Crypto-games last month so my investment doubled.
Bad time to double my investment!
April 17, 2020, 11:42:32 AM
How long has the macarrao account been active? Anyone know?
April 17, 2020, 10:55:02 AM
WTF happened to the bankroll? Months and months of investment profits wiped out.
Months for me but I read for others it is years,,, but you know how investments work right? Everything is risk and as TimeTwister says. Variance. In the long, long, long term, we should be in profit because of the house edge. But in the short term, someone can always win big, as the Easter weekend shows. Amazing though.
April 17, 2020, 10:39:02 AM
Could have been done by the user macarrao becouse this player had a few nice Slot hits last night
Apparently it happened the next day too, had to sweat on a few risky bets just to recover everything -- bad habit with me and bankroll investments. Good think we had all those months of profit to somewhat cushion the blow. On the bright side, the extra wagering took me up two levels I didn't intend to make til end of the year. Was nice to hit 6 figures on a rare faucet request.
@veleten @zodiac thanks for the help with the withdrawal request. I saw you didn't charge me any fees, really appreciate that!
April 17, 2020, 02:38:06 AM
WTF happened to the bankroll? Months and months of investment profits wiped out.
Months for me but I read for others it is years,,, but you know how investments work right? Everything is risk and as TimeTwister says. Variance. In the long, long, long term, we should be in profit because of the house edge. But in the short term, someone can always win big, as the Easter weekend shows. Amazing though.
April 16, 2020, 11:36:29 PM
WTF happened to the bankroll? Months and months of investment profits wiped out.
Variance.
April 16, 2020, 10:45:13 PM
WTF happened to the bankroll? Months and months of investment profits wiped out.
April 15, 2020, 03:05:37 PM
Some player seems to be destroying the BTC bankroll.
This could be connected to everyone staying at home right now, I mean there must be some whales who are playing more often these days as well and time to time they get lucky, they do have a lot more money than everyone else so they can chase their losses a lot longer before they can get a win, even with the max bet amount they could literally instead change the odds and bet lesser for a bigger gain and simply continue to do that cycle for a loooong time which means they will eventually win I imagine.However this can't continue forever of course, eventually they will lose, this was just some lucky back to back (maybe not even same person) and that did hurt the investments of the people who put money here, however think longer term and you will realize house edge will always prevail.
April 15, 2020, 11:02:47 AM
I tried to withdraw my investment more than 24h ago. Nothing until now. WTF?!!?!
Everything is processed.
We had a vast nearly 1000 backlog request for withdrawals from the huge easter giveaways. It is not typically the case; we have now processed everything and apologize for the delays.
April 15, 2020, 09:02:07 AM
I tried to withdraw my investment more than 24h ago. Nothing until now. WTF?!!?!
April 15, 2020, 04:02:32 AM
I thought I lost a lot but I gambled yesterday to win everything back (10% of my investment gone, whoosh haha) but then I invested it all back again,,, and today it took ANOTHER 10% hit, is it the same user winning a lot? That is such crazy luck he has. Wondering what to do if I should also gamble back again to win it all back or just divest and reinvest with normal leverage.
April 14, 2020, 06:59:00 PM
Some player seems to be destroying the BTC bankroll.
April 14, 2020, 10:32:20 AM
Investments taking a big hit during rain is actually something quite worth if I feel like. You are giving away money but at the same time you are getting newer customers from it, the more you spread around money, the more people will come for that money, and some people will get it and play with it and leave which is sad of course but some people will get it, play with it, lose and then deposit more and gamble more and lose more.
That is where you as an investor make the money from, think of it as casino spending on marketing and that marketing could very well turn into a lot more profits in the future, a short term spending for a long term gain and that is usually how companies grow, they make a debt today so that they can make a bigger profit later on.
That is where you as an investor make the money from, think of it as casino spending on marketing and that marketing could very well turn into a lot more profits in the future, a short term spending for a long term gain and that is usually how companies grow, they make a debt today so that they can make a bigger profit later on.
April 14, 2020, 09:17:48 AM
Gods that was some rain, massive, massive tip, anyone know who won that or if that was a series of big wins? I should know and feel the pain, just saw my investment take a hit (ouch!) but all the same, good to see someone get something out of it, well deserved I say. Chat is pumping now!
Could have been done by the user macarrao becouse this player had a few nice Slot hits last night
April 14, 2020, 02:20:54 AM
Gods that was some rain, massive, massive tip, anyone know who won that or if that was a series of big wins? I should know and feel the pain, just saw my investment take a hit (ouch!) but all the same, good to see someone get something out of it, well deserved I say. Chat is pumping now!
April 14, 2020, 02:17:11 AM
I have my lucky seed and I am unable to use it after I change my server seed? Why is that? Seems like a bug, fix this please, does not seem fair. If I have a good client seed, you can't just choose to make me change it!!!
This restriction is in place to prevent a situation where we (the house) could gain an advantage. We could intentionally generate future server seeds for your account that bias results against a previously chosen seed. We could, for example, generate a seed where the first few bets placed with your old or favorite client seed and betting style tend to have a higher chance of resulting in a losing bet. Disallowing reuse of a seed prevents this exploit from being possible.
The message indicating the restriction will be removed is out of date and will be updated shortly.
Why is it that the client seed is randomly changed at times? The client seed should be stateful and should never be updated or changed without the user acknowledging such an action. Even if this is a harmless bug on the casinos end, to the player this raises doubts and suspicion. The whole point of using a client/server seed pair is so that there is a user defined variable in generating the results. When this is switched or updated without the players consent or knowledge, this becomes quite unnerving despite the intentions or lack of.
Please either make the client seed stateful or at the very least warn the user as a notification PRIOR to them playing the next round of a game so that they know their client seed has been switched and needs to be replaced with the old one if they want to continue with the existing seed pair. I don't understand why you guys set it up in the current manner, it doesn't take that much more programming to have the client seed saved unless the user inputs a new one...Many users aren't even aware that their client seed was changed and once you place a bet its too late to go back to the old seed pair. It's even more unnerving to me that there doesn't seem to be a specific action that causes my client seed to be replaced. There are times when I will close my browsers for hours and it will still remain, then other times where I can do a mere refresh of the page and it will be changed. Please fix this asap - It is very difficult for me to deposit real funds into a site that doesn't take this seriously, given that the seed pair is what actually generates the results...
Yes, I know Bitvest has been around for years but that by no means excuses any online crypto casino from following standard operating procedures of a provably fair system.
This is definitely unintended behavior. The last used user seed should be automatically loaded upon logging in (it can take up to 1-2 seconds), and should never change unless the user types in a new seed or presses the randomize button. If anyone can provide me with specific steps to recreate an unintended seed change, I will gladly fix it and pay out a bug bounty. Please make sure to include your browser version and OS.
I never said it changes randomly, I'm saying I would like to use my client seed even if I change my server seed. If I change my server seed 10 times, I need 10 different client seeds. I want to use my lucky seed.
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