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I have my lucky seed and I am unable to use it after I change my server seed? Why is that? Seems like a bug, fix this please, does not seem fair. If I have a good client seed, you can't just choose to make me change it!!!

This restriction is in place to prevent a situation where we (the house) could gain an advantage. We could intentionally generate future server seeds for your account that bias results against a previously chosen seed. We could, for example, generate a seed where the first few bets placed with your old or favorite client seed and betting style tend to have a higher chance of resulting in a losing bet. Disallowing reuse of a seed prevents this exploit from being possible.

The message indicating the restriction will be removed is out of date and will be updated shortly.

Why is it that the client seed is randomly changed at times? The client seed should be stateful and should never be updated or changed without the user acknowledging such an action. Even if this is a harmless bug on the casinos end, to the player this raises doubts and suspicion. The whole point of using a client/server seed pair is so that there is a user defined variable in generating the results. When this is switched or updated without the players consent or knowledge, this becomes quite unnerving despite the intentions or lack of.

Please either make the client seed stateful or at the very least warn the user as a notification PRIOR to them playing the next round of a game so that they know their client seed has been switched and needs to be replaced with the old one if they want to continue with the existing seed pair. I don't understand why you guys set it up in the current manner, it doesn't take that much more programming to have the client seed saved unless the user inputs a new one...Many users aren't even aware that their client seed was changed and once you place a bet its too late to go back to the old seed pair. It's even more unnerving to me that there doesn't seem to be a specific action that causes my client seed to be replaced. There are times when I will close my browsers for hours and it will still remain, then other times where I can do a mere refresh of the page and it will be changed. Please fix this asap - It is very difficult for me to deposit real funds into a site that doesn't take this seriously, given that the seed pair is what actually generates the results...

Yes, I know Bitvest has been around for years but that by no means excuses any online crypto casino from following standard operating procedures of a provably fair system.

This is definitely unintended behavior. The last used user seed should be automatically loaded upon logging in (it can take up to 1-2 seconds), and should never change unless the user types in a new seed or presses the randomize button. If anyone can provide me with specific steps to recreate an unintended seed change, I will gladly fix it and pay out a bug bounty. Please make sure to include your browser version and OS.
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Hello World.


I have my lucky seed and I am unable to use it after I change my server seed? Why is that? Seems like a bug, fix this please, does not seem fair. If I have a good client seed, you can't just choose to make me change it!!!

This restriction is in place to prevent a situation where we (the house) could gain an advantage. We could intentionally generate future server seeds for your account that bias results against a previously chosen seed. We could, for example, generate a seed where the first few bets placed with your old or favorite client seed and betting style tend to have a higher chance of resulting in a losing bet. Disallowing reuse of a seed prevents this exploit from being possible.

The message indicating the restriction will be removed is out of date and will be updated shortly.

Why is it that the client seed is randomly changed at times? The client seed should be stateful and should never be updated or changed without the user acknowledging such an action. Even if this is a harmless bug on the casinos end, to the player this raises doubts and suspicion. The whole point of using a client/server seed pair is so that there is a user defined variable in generating the results. When this is switched or updated without the players consent or knowledge, this becomes quite unnerving despite the intentions or lack of.

Please either make the client seed stateful or at the very least warn the user as a notification PRIOR to them playing the next round of a game so that they know their client seed has been switched and needs to be replaced with the old one if they want to continue with the existing seed pair. I don't understand why you guys set it up in the current manner, it doesn't take that much more programming to have the client seed saved unless the user inputs a new one...Many users aren't even aware that their client seed was changed and once you place a bet its too late to go back to the old seed pair. It's even more unnerving to me that there doesn't seem to be a specific action that causes my client seed to be replaced. There are times when I will close my browsers for hours and it will still remain, then other times where I can do a mere refresh of the page and it will be changed. Please fix this asap - It is very difficult for me to deposit real funds into a site that doesn't take this seriously, given that the seed pair is what actually generates the results...

Yes, I know Bitvest has been around for years but that by no means excuses any online crypto casino from following standard operating procedures of a provably fair system.
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Bitvest is awesome.  They're very generous.  That's all I know. 
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I guess the more years you run a casino the easier it should be getting to convince people that you are actually trustworthy and they should invest/gamble or whatever they want here.

Not really sure if that is the case since I never owned a casino before, but logically speaking if you are like bitvest and quite old website compared to many others and you have never really had a problem with anything and have always been a trustworthy place and never scammed anyone etc etc, basically a place that is good, it should be getting easier and easier to find players because who would want to wager in a new place that they are not entirely sure about instead of a place everyone knows how awesome it is and how well it is managed? I would pick the old and trusted one every single day.
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I have my lucky seed and I am unable to use it after I change my server seed? Why is that? Seems like a bug, fix this please, does not seem fair. If I have a good client seed, you can't just choose to make me change it!!!

Any updates on this? I would like to use my lucky seed.
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Bitvest is one of the oldest gambling sites and in the last few years more and it proves a lot of good feedback to us so until now many playerd still playing to the bitvest.

We saw a lot of improvement happened in this gambling sites and many features has been added so the websites looks good and Im just hoping that I can see more new features and more promos and prizes for their players who are playing like few years upto this year.
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That is kind of the whole point of investing into a casino and that is why many people do it, because we do not have savings account in bitcoin world.

Hmm,,, that is a strange reason to want to invest. Savings account for me should not exist, that is the role of the bank, I want to have crypto I should keep it on my own and not expect "free money" as interest. I invest in bankrolls and I know the risk that comes with it. I know very well I can lose it if luck is not on my side.
If you do not want to consider it that way, it is totally fine, nobody really forces you to consider it as savings account or stock market or anything like that.

However, do not forget that the idea of bitcoin started as "be your own bank" and when you are investing it to another company you are no longer in charge of your own money. That company could do anything with your money and you have nothing you can do about it but try to withdraw and if a place gets hacked you can't even withdraw.

This in return means that you are no longer in charge of your money, which is just like banks, where you put your money into bank and get free money in return of letting them use your money instead of yourself. So when you invest your money to a bankroll in a casino it is "a bit" like savings account at least isn't it?

Of course it is similar to savings / investing in stocks. I dont even know what there is to discuss here.
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That is kind of the whole point of investing into a casino and that is why many people do it, because we do not have savings account in bitcoin world.

Hmm,,, that is a strange reason to want to invest. Savings account for me should not exist, that is the role of the bank, I want to have crypto I should keep it on my own and not expect "free money" as interest. I invest in bankrolls and I know the risk that comes with it. I know very well I can lose it if luck is not on my side.
If you do not want to consider it that way, it is totally fine, nobody really forces you to consider it as savings account or stock market or anything like that.

However, do not forget that the idea of bitcoin started as "be your own bank" and when you are investing it to another company you are no longer in charge of your own money. That company could do anything with your money and you have nothing you can do about it but try to withdraw and if a place gets hacked you can't even withdraw.

This in return means that you are no longer in charge of your money, which is just like banks, where you put your money into bank and get free money in return of letting them use your money instead of yourself. So when you invest your money to a bankroll in a casino it is "a bit" like savings account at least isn't it?
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In one page you guys showed an amazing support quality, literally answered everyone back to back and within couple hours at most as well and this is on bitcointalk only, I am sure you are getting many others from the website itself as well.

About the cold wallet thingy, as long as you do not allow just one person to control all of it and separate the keys, you could basically still have anyone checking it per hour or whatever as well, or you can install an alarm to your own hot wallet so if it gets lower than a certain amount it will notify you and you can just go get some from the cold wallet that way, this would eliminated the need to check constantly and you can simply just keep on doing other stuff and not really check once or twice a day but only check when it is needed.



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Easter bonus! Remember tokens convert to cryptocoins of your choosing in the account tab  Smiley
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I have my lucky seed and I am unable to use it after I change my server seed? Why is that? Seems like a bug, fix this please, does not seem fair. If I have a good client seed, you can't just choose to make me change it!!!

This restriction is in place to prevent a situation where we (the house) could gain an advantage. We could intentionally generate future server seeds for your account that bias results against a previously chosen seed. We could, for example, generate a seed where the first few bets placed with your old or favorite client seed and betting style tend to have a higher chance of resulting in a losing bet. Disallowing reuse of a seed prevents this exploit from being possible.

The message is out of date indicating the restriction will be removed is out of date and will be updated shortly.


While this is true, it is also a bit self serving. If he wants to reuse his client seed, it is his prerogative. The industry standard (primedice, bitdice, etc.) always allows you to choose your seed at will, and even to reuse it. Why are you different?
sr. member
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This restriction is in place to prevent a situation where we (the house) could gain an advantage. We could intentionally generate future server seeds for your account that bias results against a previously chosen seed. We could, for example, generate a seed where the first few bets placed with your old or favorite client seed and betting style tend to have a higher chance of resulting in a losing bet. Disallowing reuse of a seed prevents us from this situation ever being possible.

The message is out of date indicating the restriction will be removed is out of date and will be updated shortly.

I really dont like this. If I have my lucky seed, you are not allowing me to use it. The point of the client seed is that the CLIENT gets to set it to whatever he wants, not what the casino prefers. Please remove this restriction.
hero member
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Bitvest & 777Coin Developer


I have my lucky seed and I am unable to use it after I change my server seed? Why is that? Seems like a bug, fix this please, does not seem fair. If I have a good client seed, you can't just choose to make me change it!!!

This restriction is in place to prevent a situation where we (the house) could gain an advantage. We could intentionally generate future server seeds for your account that bias results against a previously chosen seed. We could, for example, generate a seed where the first few bets placed with your old or favorite client seed and betting style tend to have a higher chance of resulting in a losing bet. Disallowing reuse of a seed prevents this exploit from being possible.

The message indicating the restriction will be removed is out of date and will be updated shortly.
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How much time do cold wallet withdrawals take? I'm waiting almost a day already.

Apologize for any delays, should be processed.

Hot wallets normally don't empty too often, we aim to check the hot wallets at least 1-2 times a day. Occasionally we get a big winner, and withdraws the entire wallet. You may withdraw right after the player withdraws and our wallet check-in right before the player withdraws, and our next schedule wallet check in is at the end of the day, which leads to an unfortunate bad timing and maximal waiting time. But it shouldn't happen that often  Smiley

If your withdraw is a large withdraw requiring cold-wallet, we aim for at least 1-2 times a day. The wait shouldn't be that long, if we did the cold wallet processing, and one is right after, the next window should be at the end of the day. But usually should be reasonable speed  Smiley

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I have my lucky seed and I am unable to use it after I change my server seed? Why is that? Seems like a bug, fix this please, does not seem fair. If I have a good client seed, you can't just choose to make me change it!!!

Can you address this? Why can't I use my lucky seed?
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How much time do cold wallet withdrawals take? I'm waiting almost a day already.

Apologize for any delays, should be processed.

Hot wallets normally don't empty too often, we aim to check the hot wallets at least 1-2 times a day. Occasionally we get a big winner, and withdraws the entire wallet. You may withdraw right after the player withdraws and our wallet check-in right before the player withdraws, and our next schedule wallet check in is at the end of the day, which leads to an unfortunate bad timing and maximal waiting time. But it shouldn't happen that often  Smiley

If your withdraw is a large withdraw requiring cold-wallet, we aim for at least 1-2 times a day. The wait shouldn't be that long, if we did the cold wallet processing, and one is right after, the next window should be at the end of the day. But usually should be reasonable speed  Smiley

Don't miss out the bonus on bitvest  Smiley

Giving away tons of prizes on chat, just level to 1, and claim bitcoins, ethereum, litecoin, bitcoin cash, and dogecoin.
And convert tokens into cryptocoins in the account tab.
legendary
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How much time do cold wallet withdrawals take? I'm waiting almost a day already.
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There is also the feeling of being the house that can't be beaten by anything else that gives the people a feeling of power that not many in the world can provide.

I mean lets face it not all of us have the money to start a casino or the talent to build one, which means we can't own our own casino and that is something we need to come to terms with, however thanks to places like bitvest we are actually seeing a chance to be part owner of a casino, maybe just a 0.1% of a casino or maybe even less than that but eventually we do own a tiny portion of the website and that feeling is amazing.

If you own enough money and invest it, with the amount of money you make from this could turn into a passive income that you can live with (would require a lot of money and careful spending for days whales may win) and that is something awesome you can't find anywhere else.
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That is kind of the whole point of investing into a casino and that is why many people do it, because we do not have savings account in bitcoin world.

Hmm,,, that is a strange reason to want to invest. Savings account for me should not exist, that is the role of the bank, I want to have crypto I should keep it on my own and not expect "free money" as interest. I invest in bankrolls and I know the risk that comes with it. I know very well I can lose it if luck is not on my side.

I don't if that is right but I'm not unto investing my money just because I don't have any bank accounts around the world but I think the most important their is we have a account and use this whenever we need to invest on something like putting our money on casino investment or anything what we think good for our money. And if you want to go crypto then personal wallet is enough since you could decide to wait for a pump and earn on it.
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